Author Topic: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn  (Read 162765 times)

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1470 on: 06 November 2024, 19:55:56 »
Minority opinion here, but I don't find it too hard to believe the Spirits wanted Viper blood bad and wanted it enough to go in as hard as they did on the Viper Annihilation. The Vipers were absolutely dezgra on Tokasha, killed three Spirit Galaxies and Khan Troy Boques there, and killed them ugly. The Spirits have always been passionate and vengeful, and I'm sure the thought the other Clans might wipe the Vipers out before the Spirits could exact some measure of revenge was unacceptable.

And yet the Spirits specifically opposed the measure put forth by the Adders to open up the Annihilation to all of the Clans. If they really felt that strongly about it, I doubt they'd have voted that way. I agree with the sentiment in theory, but the writing just isn't there to support it.

Of all the rotten things Brett Andrews did, the two worst things were the titular Reavings themselves and what he did on Tokasha.

Gotta disagree with this assessment. Tokasha was pretty awful for the Spirits, but the Vipers did more or less conduct themselves under zellbrigen (despite breaking it at the first opportunity, but that's hardly unusual for most Clans), even if they were a-holes about it because, well, they're the Vipers.

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It would have been a glorious battle - and the Bloody IlKhan knew it and didn’t want that at all.  It would have put the Adders squarely ahead of the Vipers in raw strength.

That theory would have a lot more weight if Brett Andrews didn't immediately turn around and throw damn near his entire touman at the Coyotes in open battle. Plus the fact that the Vipers had already proven in spades that they had no problem facing other Clans with strict honor rules in place and kicking their asses (just ask the Falcons). Plus the fact that the Adders were already well ahead of the Vipers in strength, and always had been.
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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1471 on: 06 November 2024, 20:05:56 »
And yet the Spirits specifically opposed the measure put forth by the Adders to open up the Annihilation to all of the Clans. If they really felt that strongly about it, I doubt they'd have voted that way.

Which gets specifically mentioned as the Spirits doing "on general principle, probably" in the subtext because the Adders made the motion. Voting nay doesn't mean the Vipers weren't near the top of the shit list, just that the Adders could never be dethroned from the same. It's far from the only example of contradictory, self-serving action/behavior in that book and time frame.

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Plus the writing just doesn't seem to bear it out anyway.

I'm curious why you feel this way.
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"And there never will be," Barton said, nodding his head in agreement.

"You guys are facing a freaking Shadow Division! These guys have strict policies against playing fair!"

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1472 on: 06 November 2024, 21:20:53 »
Time for a new thread.  Any suggestions for names?

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1473 on: 06 November 2024, 22:10:56 »
Time for a new thread.  Any suggestions for names?

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1474 on: 06 November 2024, 22:17:42 »
Time for a new thread.  Any suggestions for names?

I don't remember where I came across this, but I saved it years ago. It makes me chuckle every time I see it, and I think it's time could be now!
"Well, I do, Marcus, and rule number one of the MAC has always been that the man with the plan leads. If we get shot up, I'm the first one to get my ticket punched. There are no flags in the MAC."
"And there never will be," Barton said, nodding his head in agreement.

"You guys are facing a freaking Shadow Division! These guys have strict policies against playing fair!"

"I don’t care. Kill them. I planned the defense so I know it will work. If they claim otherwise, they’re cowards. Any step back is a betrayal of me, and saying they don’t have enough men is just an excuse for incompetence and disloyalty. Tell the Krypteia to do it if you’re too soft but get it done." -Emperor Stefan Ukris Amaris I

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1475 on: 06 November 2024, 22:19:06 »
I don't remember where I came across this, but I saved it years ago. It makes me chuckle every time I see it, and I think it's time could be now!

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1476 on: 07 November 2024, 05:27:45 »
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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1477 on: 07 November 2024, 08:43:23 »
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