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Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« on: 11 July 2018, 12:24:55 »
So I’m keen on adding a platoon of either field guns or artillery to my mercenary command. However, I can’t find any mention of them on Sarna or the MUL for the 4th Succession Wars Era. So did the armies of the day just not use them? I find that very unlikely, or are my reading and google skills not up to par? Any help on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #1 on: 11 July 2018, 12:29:22 »
it's probably a case of "didn't exist in the rules when most of the era's material was created". IO has their intro as based on the weapon so you could feasibly field one once the gun was considered common.

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #2 on: 11 July 2018, 12:58:43 »
Also a problem of not having canon RS for them . . . for instance, I wanted a Sniper platoon recently- but the only tube artillery with a RS is a Drac (71st) Thumper platoon . . . and they have 24 guys instead of 28, which means that are that much closer to being unable to operate the big gun.
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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #3 on: 11 July 2018, 13:08:27 »
I suspect the gap during the Late Succession Wars is a likely a typo, given that the Great Houses never lost the tech needed to make infantrymen, nor Thumpers. You may want to ask them.
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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #4 on: 11 July 2018, 13:40:40 »
This list is a good starting point.

Not sure why the infantry platoons of artillery isn't on this list; it's probably an oversight on the MUL coding for availability.

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #5 on: 11 July 2018, 14:17:17 »
Because the MUL takes actual published cites to make entries . . . there are no specifics for artillery infantry but the one I mentioned.  I think some of the Field Gun stuff goes back to McCarron's Armored Cav.
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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #6 on: 11 July 2018, 14:22:29 »
Well the aforementioned thumper field artillery is in the MUL and has an appropriate availability (IS, Late SW) but doesn't show up on the filtered list.  Either I'm not doing the filtering right or the MUL's got a wierd glitch.  You make the call.

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #7 on: 11 July 2018, 17:00:23 »
Well the aforementioned thumper field artillery is in the MUL and has an appropriate availability (IS, Late SW) but doesn't show up on the filtered list.  Either I'm not doing the filtering right or the MUL's got a wierd glitch.  You make the call.

It has early succession war availabilities listed, not late succession war. 
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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #8 on: 11 July 2018, 17:29:46 »
I suspect the gap during the Late Succession Wars is a likely a typo, given that the Great Houses never lost the tech needed to make infantrymen, nor Thumpers. You may want to ask them.

More than likely right on all counts.

Though give the limited supply of parts in the late succession wars, I wonder how many mech scale weapons were left to outfit ‘mere’ infantry after mechs and vehicles had taken their share.

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #9 on: 12 July 2018, 21:08:59 »
Last I checked, Hesperus never stopped making Thumpers (ever)...

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #10 on: 12 July 2018, 22:38:33 »
it's probably a case of "didn't exist in the rules when most of the era's material was created". IO has their intro as based on the weapon so you could feasibly field one once the gun was considered common.

I'd second this idea. From what I can tell Field Guns were first introduced in Maximum Tech in '99.

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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #11 on: 12 July 2018, 23:00:15 »
The mechanized field artillery availability got updated.
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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #12 on: 13 July 2018, 10:49:51 »
Does that mean we have a Sniper PLT?
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Re: Field guns/Artillery in Late Succession Wars?
« Reply #13 on: 13 July 2018, 11:29:06 »
He's talking about the Thumper platoon. For Sniper platoons to be on the MUL, they must first be published somewhere in TW scale.
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