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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #360 on: 02 August 2018, 12:26:10 »
NEVAH!

Us Gen-Con scum gonna grab em all! :P

From what I’ve heard, you have! A buddy of mine who made it to GenCon tells me he couldn’t buy the full boxed set or either of the con-exclusive Wasp or Valkyrie, because they were already sold out.

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« Reply #361 on: 02 August 2018, 12:41:30 »
I guess that was bound to happen.  I wish they'd make more of them, but i am not keeping my hopes up with that.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #362 on: 02 August 2018, 12:51:30 »
I guess that was bound to happen.  I wish they'd make more of them, but i am not keeping my hopes up with that.

It's almost like they'd just rather not make money.

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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #363 on: 02 August 2018, 12:53:53 »
It's almost as if they're doing everything humanly possible, but just couldn't hire the multiple C-5s it would have taken to get the whole shipment over. Puny mortals must not like money as much as infallible gods do.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #364 on: 02 August 2018, 12:56:10 »
From what I’ve heard, you have! A buddy of mine who made it to GenCon tells me he couldn’t buy the full boxed set or either of the con-exclusive Wasp or Valkyrie, because they were already sold out.
Reportedly there were people in line that bought as many as they could, talking out loud about how much money they'll make reselling with huge markups on ebay. 

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« Reply #365 on: 02 August 2018, 13:06:32 »
It happens. Not like this stuff won't be available by the end of the year anyway.

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« Reply #366 on: 02 August 2018, 13:09:26 »
I have a kind friend who managed to get me something from the booth. But he was worried. He said the people ahead of him were buying four boxes at a time.

Obviously we had discussions on these same forums where we instructed people to do that. So it's fine.

I really want those new plastic miniatures. They're so gorgeous. Haha. It'll be nice to introduce friends to the game and imagine them being impressed with the mini's rather than having to explain that the game is from 1980.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #367 on: 02 August 2018, 13:24:40 »
Reportedly there were people in line that bought as many as they could, talking out loud about how much money they'll make reselling with huge markups on ebay.

I really really hate that not that the boxes are selling but the aftermarket selling is ridiculous fair enough sell them on if you wish probably do a better job then some shops I know but be reasonable with pricing

my missus was trying to get tickets in London for a band £160 market value 16 minutes after they went on sale tickets for resale at between £3200 and £5200 absolutely ridiculous pricing

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« Reply #368 on: 02 August 2018, 13:29:40 »
It's almost as if they're doing everything humanly possible, but just couldn't hire the multiple C-5s it would have taken to get the whole shipment over. Puny mortals must not like money as much as infallible gods do.

While I get where you're coming from, it's not an applicable comeback to a criticism about (permanent) con exclusivity.

I've been fortunate enough to attend Gen Con a few times in my lifetime, and I totally get the importance of having some exclusive goodies that allow you to show off and say "I was there!".

It's just that certain things, like that perennial topic of faction dice, really ought to NOT be con-exclusives.  And while we may very well get production (as opposed to Con exclusive) Nu-Seen Wasp and Valkyrie minis, that remains to be seen.

I understand that until recently legal issues made anything but a short "limited edition" run of these minis possible in time for Gen Con, I'd expect you'll understand expressions of pessimism that TPTB cultivated over the past few years.

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« Reply #369 on: 02 August 2018, 13:32:37 »
Obviously we had discussions on these same forums where we instructed people to do that. So it's fine.
When the supply is highly limited as a gencon special, no, that's not what we meant.  We meant when the game box is out and available in general, large supply, THEN buy stuff up.  We also instructed folks to give away all the spare stuff but the minis, because they'd still come out on top.  8 minis for 60 bucks is $7.50 per, look at IWM's prices these days and compare it.  That's how you spread knowledge of the game around, let people have the spare maps and standees and dice and rules and whatnot, while you keep your armada of minis.

Going to a special event where there's all of 40 boxes available and buying them all and screw everyone else in line that's just being a jerk.

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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #370 on: 02 August 2018, 13:34:42 »
While I get where you're coming from, it's not an applicable comeback to a criticism about (permanent) con exclusivity.

I've been fortunate enough to attend Gen Con a few times in my lifetime, and I totally get the importance of having some exclusive goodies that allow you to show off and say "I was there!".

It's just that certain things, like that perennial topic of faction dice, really ought to NOT be con-exclusives.  And while we may very well get production (as opposed to Con exclusive) Nu-Seen Wasp and Valkyrie minis, that remains to be seen.

I understand that until recently legal issues made anything but a short "limited edition" run of these minis possible in time for Gen Con, I'd expect you'll understand expressions of pessimism that TPTB cultivated over the past few years.

Dice aren't what people are talking about right now, boxes are. And if anyone tells you that either box is a convention exclusive, they are lying.
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #371 on: 02 August 2018, 13:35:49 »
Technically con exclusive since it's literally unavailable (today) anywhere else.  When IS the thing supposed to hit shores anyway, this quarter or next?

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« Reply #372 on: 02 August 2018, 13:36:16 »
This is the first year in a decade that I wasn't able to make it to GenCon. Fortunately, my brother-in-law is there and managed to snag a Starter Box and Shattered Fortress.

Ya'll apparently sold out of The Anvil/Splinter print edition too - congrats! Also, curses.  ;D


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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #373 on: 02 August 2018, 13:41:19 »
When the supply is highly limited as a gencon special, no, that's not what we meant.  We meant when the game box is out and available in general, large supply, THEN buy stuff up.  We also instructed folks to give away all the spare stuff but the minis, because they'd still come out on top.  8 minis for 60 bucks is $7.50 per, look at IWM's prices these days and compare it.  That's how you spread knowledge of the game around, let people have the spare maps and standees and dice and rules and whatnot, while you keep your armada of minis.

Going to a special event where there's all of 40 boxes available and buying them all and screw everyone else in line that's just being a jerk.

It all comes down to perception.  So long as you trust CGL that yes they all will indeed be available "soon", accepting one copy for your personal use might fly.  But then if you trust you can get it when/soon after you get home from the con anyway, why even buy one?

OTOH there's value in being first.  Maybe you're buying for a circle of friends.  Maybe you're stocking a brick-n-mortar store for resale after the Con. 

There's just no "win" for CGL in limiting customers to only 1 copy.

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Dice aren't what people are talking about right now, boxes are. And if anyone tells you that either box is a convention exclusive, they are lying.

Well...

1) what the comment I was responding to was discussing was Con exclusive minis, not boxes

2) It takes some trust to accept that the boxes will indeed become available to the general public.  This being the first major release in quite a long time.. well that trust might need some shoring-up.  And I'm sure CGL will deliver on that, but for right now... in THIS moment... it's sheer faith to believe that the box sets will be showing up "soon" in our FLGS.  Not everyone has equal amounts of faith.

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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #374 on: 02 August 2018, 13:44:36 »
Technically con exclusive since it's literally unavailable (today) anywhere else.  When IS the thing supposed to hit shores anyway, this quarter or next?

Not what con exclusive means at all, please stop misinforming people who actually come here for news.

Con exclusive means something where no plans exist to sell it outside of conventions. In the case of the boxed sets, this is not true.
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« Reply #375 on: 02 August 2018, 13:55:29 »
Randall is only at GenCon but that doesn't make him a con exclusive.
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« Reply #376 on: 02 August 2018, 14:00:51 »
But what this should do, is make TPTB see that there is money in selling the classics and give us upgrade packs with the rest of the them!
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« Reply #377 on: 02 August 2018, 14:02:29 »
Randall is only at GenCon but that doesn't make him a con exclusive.

Correct. I keep my Randall in the original shrink wrap to maximize his resale value.
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« Reply #378 on: 02 August 2018, 14:03:44 »
But what this should do, is make TPTB see that there is money in selling the classics and give us upgrade packs with the rest of the them!
Seems pretty insulting to say they don't know this already.
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« Reply #379 on: 02 August 2018, 14:07:00 »
But what this should do, is make TPTB see that there is money in selling the classics and give us upgrade packs with the rest of the them!

That's the hope, yeah. I was thinking about this walking to lunch. The scalping itself shows there's a lot of pent up demand. It doesn't mean that level of demand will be ongoing, but it's enough to support higher prices in the interim between the GC rush and full-scale production (it's coming, Cubby swears!). The behavior looks to me a lot like the SNES Classic release by Nintendo. There was so much interest that it took a good few months before real demand was fulfilled and second-market sellers (scalpers) finally started pricing the systems much closer to MSRP. I think the same thing will happen here. As the production run makes it onto the market the scalper prices will come down markedly.

Perspective alert: I had a friend willing to try and pick up a copy at GC for me, but the rush was apparently so strong what with the scalping and general interest that I'm not sure he'll be able to get even one. I'm copacetic about it because I know it'll be on the general market soon enough. I will be patient.
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« Reply #380 on: 02 August 2018, 14:08:03 »
Selling out is great, I just hope CGL is better at managing their finances so they can continue to produce content.

I won't buy from some scalper. We've waited years, YEARS! for this box set. A few more months is nothing.

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« Reply #381 on: 02 August 2018, 14:10:56 »
Just out of curiosity, what has CGL "sold out" of BattleTech stock at GenCon thus far?

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« Reply #382 on: 02 August 2018, 14:22:21 »
Seems pretty insulting to say they don't know this already.
No not at all, I would rather they get the classics out before they spend limited resources on another time jump. Once my classics are out they can time jump all they want! You have got to shore up the foundation before you build a new floor on the house!
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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIII: Unlucky Release Edition
« Reply #383 on: 02 August 2018, 14:22:34 »
Just out of curiosity, what has CGL "sold out" of BattleTech stock at GenCon thus far?

At the very least the little metal minis.
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« Reply #384 on: 02 August 2018, 14:39:36 »
And the box sets all gone. I literally watched the last beginners box get snatched up at around 1:30 pm.
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« Reply #385 on: 02 August 2018, 14:40:58 »
Also according to my man at the Con by the time he got to the booth they had only 2 of the $20 2 mech pack. They were out of the $60.00 starter sets and the Valkyrie & Wasp. 
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« Reply #386 on: 02 August 2018, 14:42:02 »
From what I’ve heard, you have! A buddy of mine who made it to GenCon tells me he couldn’t buy the full boxed set or either of the con-exclusive Wasp or Valkyrie, because they were already sold out.

I got one set for me and one set that will be mailed of Saturday.
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« Reply #387 on: 02 August 2018, 14:46:28 »
I got one set for me and one set that will be mailed of Saturday.

And for that, I'm sure someone will be eternally grateful!

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« Reply #388 on: 02 August 2018, 14:49:31 »
Just saw on Ebay Battletech Boxed Set Gencon 2018 Beginner Box buy it now for $149.99.
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« Reply #389 on: 02 August 2018, 14:52:21 »
Speaking for myself, don't buy it. Please. This thing will be generally available. It's not worth that surplus. Srsly to any lurker even thinking about it for a second.
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