Author Topic: MWO--Charger/Hatamoto-Chi (Read 8618 times)

MarauderD · « **on:** 31 August 2018, 19:57:48 »

New release from MWO.

Discuss!

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/268720-evolution-the-art-of-war-charger-amp-hatamoto-chi/

Wrangler · « **Reply #1 on:** 31 August 2018, 21:41:04 »

Charger looks ugly. It's just me though.

Hatamato not bad looking.

My question is how they going sell the Charger? She barely armed in comparison other mechs. Well, maybe they will make her uber with MWO fixes.

Charger as at least one non-canon variant listed, CGR-1A1, CGR-1A5, CGR-3K, CGR-1A1(S), CGR-N7
Not sure what the 1A1(S) is either.

Decoy · « **Reply #2 on:** 31 August 2018, 21:44:51 »

Yeah. I think I'll snag the Hatamoto. The CHarger has a slew of variants though. the one with the AC 20, the 3k, and others.

Luciora · « **Reply #3 on:** 31 August 2018, 22:16:07 »

I'm already seeing Aphrodite-A mods with thunderbolt launchers.

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #4 on:** 31 August 2018, 23:34:47 »

Just realized one of the Hatamoto variants'll have stealth armor.

Now I can just sit in a corner with Stealth Armor and MRM-80 and ambush people as an 80 ton ninja.

Deadborder · « **Reply #5 on:** 01 September 2018, 00:47:15 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 31 August 2018, 21:41:04

Charger as at least one non-canon variant listed, CGR-1A1, CGR-1A5, CGR-3K, CGR-1A1(S), CGR-N7
Not sure what the 1A1(S) is either.

The CGR-N7 is the hero 'Mech. MWO gives the hero 'mechs their own type numbers. CGR-1A1(S) is the limited/collector's edition of the CGR-1A1 and is functionally the same 'Mech.

Cyc · « **Reply #6 on:** 01 September 2018, 01:58:56 »

Two non-canon variants, Shugo is the HTM-27T Hatamoto-Chi Daniel II minus the C3 Master.

Not a fan of the Charger head, but rest of both look quite nice. Easy to go Ultimate on both.

Luciora · « **Reply #7 on:** 01 September 2018, 02:27:16 »

But will the Hero Charger be dropped out of a dropship, sans pilot?

Quote from: Deadborder on 01 September 2018, 00:47:15

The CGR-N7 is the hero 'Mech. MWO gives the hero 'mechs their own type numbers. CGR-1A1(S) is the limited/collector's edition of the CGR-1A1 and is functionally the same 'Mech.

Giovanni Blasini · « **Reply #8 on:** 01 September 2018, 02:32:28 »

Oh, I want that CGR-1A1,but I hardly ever play MWO these days.

Cache · « **Reply #9 on:** 01 September 2018, 10:37:41 »

So that's what a Charger looks like when you chop off the top half of it's cockpit. :-\

Wrangler · « **Reply #10 on:** 01 September 2018, 23:20:22 »

More like someone sat on it's head.

I guess they couldn't make them too similar to one another.

Cyc · « **Reply #11 on:** 02 September 2018, 05:14:52 »

Some people have floated the idea that as well as both designs sharing much in common that they also are resulting in reuse of existing MWO assets - the Charger head has the window layout of the Highlander, the Hatamato has the Victor window layout.

Could just be same artist syndrome, but the IIC 'Mechs have similar commonality with their Inner Sphere originals too for cockpit windows/cockpit layout...

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #12 on:** 02 September 2018, 13:15:38 »

People have told me that's why they think MWO is dying.

Of course-why is that necessarily a bad thing? Sure, money and time sunk, but frankly, anything to give them the excuse to make a multiplayer that doesn't rely upon spaghettiware is a good thing.

Stormforge · « **Reply #13 on:** 02 September 2018, 21:21:23 »

Charger is ugly as sin. Looks like, as stated above, they just took parts from an Awesome and maybe a Victor or Highlander. Why does it have what looks like a winch on its gut? Has it been designated as a mech recovery vehicle with that extra power produced by the huge 400 engine?

The Hatamoto-Chi on the other hand looks Bad Ass

Wrangler · « **Reply #14 on:** 02 September 2018, 22:34:05 »

Survival of MWO is important, helps keep Battletech in it's name

That said, i don't like where they went with the Charger.

I do wonder if the Challenger will appear as a variant, since itself was bad ass machine amongst the Succession War variants before AC/20 packing ones showed up.

Cyc · « **Reply #15 on:** 03 September 2018, 06:35:59 »

Quote from: Wrangler on 02 September 2018, 22:34:05

Survival of MWO is important, helps keep Battletech in it's name

We have the HBS BattleTech game and MechWarrior 5 is coming so BattleTech will definitely remain in the view of computer games only players and with the same PGI 'Mech models to boot.

MW5 is perhaps part of why MWO quality has gone done, resources split between both has made many suggest MWO is B-Team which why so many little niggling quality issues on 'Mechs recently.

Elmoth · « **Reply #16 on:** 03 September 2018, 06:41:57 »

In general designs like this one might be going down in aesthetics (no idea about gameplay) but MWO has done quite a service to Battletech in terms of getting better aesthetics for the mechs. Your milleage might vary, of course :)

Wrangler · « **Reply #17 on:** 03 September 2018, 09:35:33 »

Quote from: Cyc on 03 September 2018, 06:35:59

We have the HBS BattleTech game and MechWarrior 5 is coming so BattleTech will definitely remain in the view of computer games only players and with the same PGI 'Mech models to boot.

MW5 is perhaps part of why MWO quality has gone done, resources split between both has made many suggest MWO is B-Team which why so many little niggling quality issues on 'Mechs recently.

I would wager big money the mechs were seeing that seem not make sense like Vulcan, the Champion, the Charger/Hatanoto-chi are likely ending up in MW5 since they fit the era they're alleged to be playing in. Champion (3025 Revised) Charger and Vulcan are from that earlier era.

Caedis Animus · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 September 2018, 14:49:32 »

Quote from: Cyc on 03 September 2018, 06:35:59

MW5 is perhaps part of why MWO quality has gone done, resources split between both has made many suggest MWO is B-Team which why so many little niggling quality issues on 'Mechs recently.

It's not even always a mech quality issue-it's a balancing quality issue. The current Balance Overlord is often regarded as having less of an idea of what to do with his balancing than a brick wall. It's like a perpetual un-funning of the game. I'm not sure if that's game fatigue, or just them actively making machines worse.

I mean, the dequirkening was a bad idea because that just made the game even more same-ey, and a LOT of older mechs need love that could be rectified by a more aggressive and more balance-focused weapon retrofit+Redux mechpack campaign, but giving a Black Knight competitive hardpoints is evidently off-limits because it 'ruins' the art somehow, despite that fact that actually putting in the real effort to make the machines better would likely bring people back, instead of doing the bare minimum.

Edit; And that may sound like a meaningless rant. I'm really fatigued right now.