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Cannonshop

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"Hold my beer and watch this"(VTOL challenge)
« on: 03 September 2018, 04:35:46 »
requirement: How fast can you make it go?

everything for speed, guys, everything. Push the envelope, shave whatever you have to, it has to be as fast as you can make it-while still being viable as a combat unit.

'viable' does not mean 'token machine gun' it means 'can actually fill a role' in combat,

Recommended:
Beagle or other active probe
TAG (obviously)
C3 slave
NARC launcher

no actual WEAPONS with a 'long' range shorter than a PPC.

you need to pick one (or two) items.  your VTOL must be ridiculous fast, absurd fast, so fast you never have to make a sideslip check because you're already maxing the to-hit numbers at cruise fast.

faster, even.  make it 'what the ****** fast'.
I beats the Urbie to death with my CHARGER!!!

Ruger

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Re: "Hold my beer and watch this"(VTOL challenge)
« Reply #1 on: 03 September 2018, 06:54:00 »
I THINK I've designed this right...been a while since I did a VTOL without a design program:

Quicksliver Lightning Spotter Scout VTOL

Tonnage: 21 tons
Tech Base: Clan (Mixed)
Internal Structure: 2.5 tons
Engine: 240XL - 9 tons
Cruise MP: 18
Flank MP: 27 (36)
Heat Sinks: 10
Lift Equipment: 2.5 tons
Control Equipment: 1.5 tons
Armor: 32 - 2 ton (Stealth)
Front: 15
R/L Side: 5/5
Rear: 5
Rotor: 2
Weapons and Equipment:
TAG - Front - 1 ton
Watchdog CEWS - Body - 1.5 tons
VTOL Jet Booster - Body - 1 ton

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« Last Edit: 03 September 2018, 06:55:42 by Ruger »
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Daryk

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Re: "Hold my beer and watch this"(VTOL challenge)
« Reply #2 on: 03 September 2018, 07:06:04 »
For some reason, I can't get SAW to turn on a Jet Booster or do Fractional controls correctly, so I had to hand jam those parts.  That said, for 3025, you'll be hard pressed to go faster than this.  The Recon Camera is the 3025 version of TAG, and it's the same weight as a Remote Sensor Dispenser.  Cost is estimated to be a bit under 1,000,000 (the Jet Booster costs 750,000 all by itself, before the final multiplier).

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Hold my ISR

Mass: 5 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-F-E
Production Year: 3025

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Power Plant:  75 Fuel Cell Engine with Jet Booster
Cruise Speed: 270.0 km/h
Flanking Speed: 410.4 km/h (540 km/h)
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    None
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       5 points                0.500
Engine:             Fuel-Cell Engine              75                       2.400
    Cruise MP:  25
    Flank MP:   38 (50)
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             1                         0.000
Control Equipment:                                                         0.250
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.500
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -   9                  0.563

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     2         
                                          Left/Right    2/2         
                                                Rear     2         
                                               Rotor     1         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Recon Camera (or Remote Sensor Dispenser)    FR        0         1         0.500
VTOL Jet Booster                             BD        0         1         0.240
Cargo                                        BD        0         1         0.047

mbear

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Re: "Hold my beer and watch this"(VTOL challenge)
« Reply #3 on: 10 September 2018, 09:58:19 »
Plinko PL-1A

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 23,750,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 687

Power Plant:  280 XXL Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 151.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 226.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
    1  (IS) Extended LRM-10
    1  Recon Camera
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Overview:
The Plinko VTOL was created by the Outworlds Alliance as a second line VTOL
that could harass pirate forces. It uses a Clan provided XXL engine, armor, and
CASE system. These are combined with Inner Sphere grade chassis, weapon, and
sensor systems.



Capabilities:
Using a 280 Clan XXL Engine allows the Plinko to reach a crusing speed of
140km/h. Protection comes from three and a half tons of Ferro-Lamellor armor,
which is enough to protect the rotor systems from enemy fire.


To keep a long-range harasser role, the Plinko's main armament is a single
Extended Range LRM-10 with a ton of ammunition. This allows the Pliko to
inflict relatively good damage at ranges that no Clan weapon can reach. This is
plenty to affect an enemy force, be it pirate, DCMS, or AFFS. It won't deliver
a knockout punch, but the targeted unit will be bled to death from paper cuts.
To further add utility, the ELRM is mounted in a chin turret, so the Plinko can
hit the target from nearly any angle. The single ton of ammunition is protected
by Clan CASE, and the relatively few reloads encourage the Plinko pilot to
retire after exhausting the ammunition. This intelligent use of ammunition
allows the pilots to deliver intelligence to their command structure.


To further enhance utility, a Recon Camera is installed coaxially with the
missile launcher.

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      18 points                3.00
Engine:             XXL Engine                   280                       8.50
    Cruise MP:  14
    Flank MP:   21
Heat Sinks:         (IS) Single Heat Sink        10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            3.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Ferro-Lamellor               AV -  49                  3.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     16       
                                          Left/Right   11/11       
                                              Turret     0         
                                                Rear     9         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(IS) Extended LRM-10                         T         6         1         8.00
Recon Camera                                 T         0         1         0.50
CASE                                         BD        -         0         0.00
@ELRM-10 (9)                                 BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 7
14v        1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: CASE, TUR(1/1/1)


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Re: "Hold my beer and watch this"(VTOL challenge)
« Reply #4 on: 20 September 2018, 15:55:07 »
Here's my quick idea; I'm still working on some appropriate fluff text.   Essentially, it's a flying Spider inspired in part from the evil twin of Airwolf from the 80s supervehicle TV show.

          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model:    Redwolf Light Assault VTOL
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3060
Config:        V.T.O.L.
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          15 tons
Power Plant:   145 Leenex XL Fusion with Jet Boosters
Cruise Speed:  172.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 259.2 [345.6] km/h
Armor Type:    Kallon FWL Special Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 Tronel XV ER Medium Lasers
  1 Model 2B Guardian ECM
Manufacturer:  Nimakachi Fusion Products Limited
  Location:    Tematagi
Communications System:  Omicron 4002 Networking Channel
Targeting & Tracking System:  TRSS Eagle Eye

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Redwolf Light Assault VTOL
Mass:          15 tons

Equipment:                                                      Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  10 pts Standard                                0       1.50
Engine:        145 XL Fusion                                   2       2.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:                     0       1.50
Jet Boosters:                                                       1         .50
    Cruise MP:  16
     Flank MP:  24 [32]
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                                       0        .00
Cockpit & Controls:                                              0      1.00
Crew: 1 Members                                                0        .00
Rotor Equipment:  Co-axial Rotors                        0      1.50
Armor Factor:   54 pts Ferro-Fibrous                     2      3.00

                                Internal    Armor
                               Structure   Value
   Front:                         2          18
   Left / Right Sides:        2       13/13
   Rear:                          2           8
   Rotor:                         2           2

Weapons and Equipment    Loc   Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
2 ER Medium Lasers         Front   10                   2        2.00
1 Guardian ECM               Front     0                   1        1.50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                    10                   8       15.00
Items & Tons Left:                                            0           .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,802,500 C-Bills
Battle Value:      1,331
Cost per BV:       2,856.87
Weapon Value:      124 / 124 (Ratio = .09 / .09)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 8;  MRDmg = 3;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 16V,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 2
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: VA;  Point Value: 13
                   Specials: ecm

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Re: "Hold my beer and watch this"(VTOL challenge)
« Reply #5 on: 26 September 2018, 08:01:55 »
Had to hand type in the VTOL Jet Booster (its a damn shame that SSW & SAW are now abandonware), although I didn't even try to figure out the correct BV as I don't want to summon Cthulhu with my math.

The nose mounted LPPC and the dual RL/10s fits the 'long range equal at least to a PPC' requirement, plus lets it hit further out than its TAG. And TAG + C3 of course means all the indirect fire-support you could ever want.

Tonbo = Japanese for Dragonfly

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Tonbo Patrol VTOL

Mass: 25 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: VTOL
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 18,663,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 701

Power Plant:  285 XXL Fusion Engine w/ VTOL Jet Booster
Cruise Speed: 183.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 280.8 km/h (367.2 km/h)
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Light PPC
    2  Rocket Launcher 10s
    1  TAG
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      15 points                2.50
Engine:             XXL Fusion Engine            285                       8.50
    Cruise MP:  17
    Flank MP:   26 (34)
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  48                  3.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     15       
                                          Left/Right   11/11       
                                                Rear     9         
                                               Rotor     2         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light PPC                                    FR        5         1         3.00
TAG                                          FR        0         1         1.00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          FR        0         1         1.00
2 Rocket Launcher 10s                        FR        6         2         1.00
VTOL Jet Booster                             BD        0         1         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 7
17v        1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: TAG, C3S