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because the people who make the Z.O.D. game line have started directly copying clan omnimechs.
(not sure if i can link to their sales site directly, but if you go to souldark.ru and check out their Z.O.D. section you'll find them)

like the "Great Wolf Death"


the "Dire Forest Felinid"


it has direct copies of the Dire Wolf, Timber Wolf, Mad Dog, Warhawk, Nova, and Viper. so far.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #1 on: 05 September 2018, 16:02:41 »
PM Speck -- he should know who to talk to.....

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #2 on: 05 September 2018, 16:06:09 »
not sure how much can be done when it is a (IIRC) russian company, but if nothing else Catalyst and IWM should send a C&D letter.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #3 on: 06 September 2018, 03:34:45 »
I think CGL could take a leaf from theeir book when it comes to mech naming though.... I particularly like the sound of "winged dog deadeater"  :toofunny:

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #4 on: 06 September 2018, 07:29:43 »
I hate to say it but they look better than anything out there now. Even though they are clicky-tech size.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #5 on: 06 September 2018, 10:05:01 »
looked at some of the other parts of their site, and they have copied some GW products as well in their space ship line

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #6 on: 06 September 2018, 12:21:49 »
I think CGL could take a leaf from theeir book when it comes to mech naming though.... I particularly like the sound of "winged dog deadeater"  :toofunny:

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #7 on: 06 September 2018, 12:40:15 »
PM Speck -- he should know who to talk to.....

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done. also, having remembered it just before, linked to the warhansa "robomechs" stuff. it is mostly clones of the MWO and MW4 designs, but there is some CGL stuff in there. and i'm sure someone in CGL might be able to let PGI and HBS know that their computer models are being ripped off.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #8 on: 06 September 2018, 12:46:10 »
It's especially annoying when we get served with a Lawsuit, and then this crap is taking place

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #9 on: 06 September 2018, 13:01:55 »
pretty sure links direct to the site like that are a violation of Rule 9. which is why i didn't provide links in my posts.

agreed though.

edit: ugh.. found another one.. Stratominis and their "hardbots" line.
« Last Edit: 06 September 2018, 13:44:26 by glitterboy2098 »

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #10 on: 06 September 2018, 14:13:07 »
pretty sure links direct to the site like that are a violation of Rule 9. which is why i didn't provide links in my posts.

agreed though.

edit: ugh.. found another one.. Stratominis and their "hardbots" line.

Yeah, rather you not link to them directly here. Letting Speck and such know via PM or e-mail is preferred, thank you.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #11 on: 06 September 2018, 14:24:41 »
They've also popped up on Ebay too.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #12 on: 06 September 2018, 21:28:31 »
FYI, posting the name of the company and product line is the next best thing to providing a link. It isn't against the rules, but it does provide free publicity to those companies. You're giving people everything they need to look up the bootlegs themselves.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #13 on: 07 September 2018, 12:56:51 »
The problem is that Russia (like China) doesn't enforce copyright claims. So given it is a russian website, there is little that can be done if they decide that they don't feel like taking it down.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #14 on: 07 September 2018, 16:13:05 »
My first thought on seeing those was to wish they were official. Is that wrong?


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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #15 on: 14 September 2018, 02:25:25 »
Man and those clan mechs are plastic too? That's really terrible...that's *Runs away and grabs wallet*

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #16 on: 15 September 2018, 13:39:35 »
Man and those clan mechs are plastic too? That's really terrible...that's *Runs away and grabs wallet*

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #17 on: 15 September 2018, 16:51:23 »
Probably would be best to take this discussion somewhere else.  I doubt TPTB want to see this go on any further. C:-)
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #18 on: 15 September 2018, 17:42:49 »
edit: ugh.. found another one.. Stratominis and their "hardbots" line.

That one is more of a grey area I think.  While the stuff in the first post is clearly a direct ripoff, the Stratominis stuff isn't.

For example, compare the macross mechs to the new classics and there's clearly similarities there, but not enough for HG to shut them down.  Kinda the same thing with Stratominis' stuff.  Yeah, the mech has the same type of armament as a Warhammer, but it's hardly the only mech in any universe with two gun arms and a missile box on its shoulder.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #19 on: 15 September 2018, 18:04:38 »
That one is more of a grey area I think.  While the stuff in the first post is clearly a direct ripoff, the Stratominis stuff isn't.

For example, compare the macross mechs to the new classics and there's clearly similarities there, but not enough for HG to shut them down.  Kinda the same thing with Stratominis' stuff.  Yeah, the mech has the same type of armament as a Warhammer, but it's hardly the only mech in any universe with two gun arms and a missile box on its shoulder.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #20 on: 18 September 2018, 21:04:45 »
possibly. but worth them getting a look by CGL's legal people.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #21 on: 19 September 2018, 17:25:02 »
Depending on location they could just not care or like many youtubers they just don't have a firm grasp on copyright and fair use. Case in point those who think posting a fair use disclaimer makes things all right.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #22 on: 19 September 2018, 17:27:53 »
It's probably less an IWM issue than it is a CGL/Topps concern. But if this company is in Russia, there is probably little anyone can do about it.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #23 on: 19 September 2018, 20:49:04 »
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« Reply #24 on: 23 September 2018, 20:07:55 »
possibly. but worth them getting a look by CGL's legal people.

You assume CGL has legal people

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #25 on: 23 September 2018, 23:28:38 »
You can always hope that they accidently copy some old Robotech stuff and then watch HG go after them?

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #26 on: 24 September 2018, 15:57:13 »
You assume CGL has legal people
i'm assumign they at least know a lawyer who can advise, based on their comments regarding CGL's stances in the HG-vs-PGI/HBS lawsuit.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #27 on: 26 September 2018, 12:21:48 »
You assume CGL has legal people

I would expect this to get escalated to Topps, if anybody was going to try to take action.

I agree that not much will likely come of this, but it's worth flagging. It ensures that the the companies involved are aware of it, and have the information needed to make informed decisions on this front.
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« Reply #28 on: 28 September 2018, 15:11:56 »
What annoyed me was the shirts and crap appearing on FB . . . tried to report a violation to them, but b/c I am not a company representative apparently I am not a proper reporting agent.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #30 on: 05 October 2018, 14:06:43 »
does IWM have official licensing? or is this some remanant of an old Ral partha thing? this just popped up on FB in a painting group:

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #31 on: 05 October 2018, 20:31:47 »
Those are old packages. Probably over 30 years old during the Ral Partha days.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #32 on: 05 October 2018, 22:32:09 »
Those are old packages. Probably over 30 years old during the Ral Partha days.

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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #33 on: 06 October 2018, 16:41:53 »
We see this often in the firearms industry. High quality gun accessories like LaRue, Magpul and Daniel Defense being copied by Chinese makers. Stuff is cheap and in some cases dangerous to use. I’ve had a few Deputies show up to training with crap Chinese knockoff parts on their patrol rifles and made them remove the parts. As to miniatures, God only knows if the metals and plastics those knockoffs are made from aren’t toxic.
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Re: how would one go about reporting sites which are infringing BT's IP?
« Reply #34 on: 06 October 2018, 20:27:13 »
does IWM have official licensing? or is this some remanant of an old Ral partha thing? this just popped up on FB in a painting group:

(not going to share the name of the poster in public)

Cache is correct, they are old and from the Ral Partha days. Most likely from back in the day when Ral Partha licensed manufacturing to other companies in other countries. Just look at the orange packaged one, it even says that.