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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #720 on: 05 May 2019, 07:49:07 »
Does anyone know of a good online resource for someone looking to paint Royal Navy warships, specifically as they looked in the WWII Mediterranean?

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #721 on: 05 May 2019, 10:56:25 »

A future "Storm" class carrier from the Russians...which probably isn't going to happen considering Kuznetsov's in worse shape than we thought before.  In addition to having half her boilers replaced and the others refurbished, patching the hole in the flight deck, and upgrades to literally everything else...it turns out that she doesn't have propellers.  All the props were removed while she was in drydock, and once that went to the bottom...

They've got one drydock left, but it's in the North Pacific.  Which means they'd have to TOW the poor thing in a reenactment of the Voyage of the Damned, only passing through Tsushima and continuing on...  Scrapping it is becoming more and more popular, according to Popular Mechanics quoting Izvestia.

That Storm class, though, that's a pretty one.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #722 on: 05 May 2019, 11:53:28 »
Is it supposed to have catapults? They had a pretty poor experience with only the ski jump in Syria (most of the air wing wound up flying out of a Syrian airbase to get useful range and payload).
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #723 on: 05 May 2019, 11:55:33 »
Even more wishful thinking, the planes are Su-57s! Another doomed program.   ;D
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #724 on: 05 May 2019, 12:02:28 »
HMS Victorious pretending to be USS Robin in 1943 although the commentary says the colour scheme may be a bit suspect


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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #725 on: 05 May 2019, 12:32:28 »
Wait... the V's point in the OPPOSITE direction the planes are flying??

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #726 on: 05 May 2019, 16:24:26 »
The Economy for Russia has to improve to justify a new nuclear carrier. Which i think their sticking to submarines at this point.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #727 on: 05 May 2019, 23:03:31 »

A future "Storm" class carrier from the Russians...which probably isn't going to happen considering Kuznetsov's in worse shape than we thought before.  In addition to having half her boilers replaced and the others refurbished, patching the hole in the flight deck, and upgrades to literally everything else...it turns out that she doesn't have propellers.  All the props were removed while she was in drydock, and once that went to the bottom...

They've got one drydock left, but it's in the North Pacific.  Which means they'd have to TOW the poor thing in a reenactment of the Voyage of the Damned, only passing through Tsushima and continuing on...  Scrapping it is becoming more and more popular, according to Popular Mechanics quoting Izvestia.

That Storm class, though, that's a pretty one.

Towing large ships is a pretty fraught exercise. Lots of cases of them foundering or breaking the tow line; especially in rough seas. And there's absolutely none of that in the North Pacific!

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #728 on: 05 May 2019, 23:52:44 »
HMS Victorious pretending to be USS Robin in 1943 although the commentary says the colour scheme may be a bit suspect


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Yeah, I love that site. Pretty sure that's not the paint scheme I'm seeking though, since it stems from her Pacific service. They seemed to repaint these things every time they entered a new zip code.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #729 on: 06 May 2019, 00:44:29 »
Towing large ships is a pretty fraught exercise. Lots of cases of them foundering or breaking the tow line; especially in rough seas. And there's absolutely none of that in the North Pacific!
Oh forget the North Pacific.  She's in Kola Bay.  And because she can't do it under her own power, is unable to transit the Suez.

You're talking about a tow operation that starts east of Finland, swings around Sweden into the North Sea, winds past the G-I-UK line into NORLANT unless they want to cut back and parade their crippled ship past London, then south past the mouth of the Med, down Africa, all the way around the Cape of Good Hope, across the IO or the Arabian Sea, around Malaysia at the shortest into the South China Sea, then up through the Sea of Japan, and all the way past Vladivostok to Chazhma Bay.

Y'know, where the Soviets blew up a submarine's reactor in a refueling accident back in '85.  Mostly Cobalt-60 and Cesium-137, but it's still putting out 20-40mR/h these days.

Did I mention they'd be towing it there?

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #730 on: 06 May 2019, 02:45:39 »
Wouldn't it be cheaper to build a new one that salvaging the wrecked one? For what you are saying it is an exercise in madness to try to bring the dry dock around half the globe. Either build a new ship or a new dry dock

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #731 on: 06 May 2019, 05:56:27 »
They kinda tried that buying a pair of Mistrals off the French...that didn't turn out well.  (Unless you're Egyptian)

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #732 on: 06 May 2019, 07:51:17 »
Speaking of Aircraft Carriers and pictures of warships.  :D

The Italian Carrier, Cavour.


The even older, incomplete Aircraft Carrier, Aquila.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #733 on: 06 May 2019, 09:31:22 »
The alternative for Special K is a tow north of Siberia- with the receding polar ice, that's at least feasible now in the warmer seasons. Still dangerous, but might be easier than hauling her all the way around.

...that said, yeah, with the issues she's had in terms of maintenance, damage, and ineffectiveness (as previously noted, her planes were more useful from land bases than from the ship), it might nto be a bad idea to either scrap her or offer her 'as-is' to anyone interested. Bring your own tugboat, no lowballers, we know what we're selling, no trades. ;)

(And yes, Su-57 is a lovely airplane that makes the F-35 program look like smooth sailing. I'd be surprised if they ever go into large-scale production at this point.)
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #734 on: 06 May 2019, 09:40:08 »
The alternative for Special K is a tow north of Siberia- with the receding polar ice, that's at least feasible now in the warmer seasons. Still dangerous, but might be easier than hauling her all the way around.

...that said, yeah, with the issues she's had in terms of maintenance, damage, and ineffectiveness (as previously noted, her planes were more useful from land bases than from the ship), it might nto be a bad idea to either scrap her or offer her 'as-is' to anyone interested. Bring your own tugboat, no lowballers, we know what we're selling, no trades. ;)

(And yes, Su-57 is a lovely airplane that makes the F-35 program look like smooth sailing. I'd be surprised if they ever go into large-scale production at this point.)

Blimey, I had no idea that the Special K was in such a state. Scrapping the Special K at this point's basically the easier option, put the poor thing out of her misery and either use her as the target of a sinkex, or scrap her.

Also whats up with the SU-57 program?

and you folks might find this interesting its about the latest Russian SSBN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKNqVOHs71Q
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #735 on: 06 May 2019, 09:46:58 »
SINKEX could be a good idea. Without going into Rule 4, I'm sure there's a LOT of powers that would pay good money to know exactly what kind of firepower it takes to sink a modern carrier. See if a bunch of them would go in for a group buy or something.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #736 on: 06 May 2019, 09:55:43 »
SINKEX could be a good idea. Without going into Rule 4, I'm sure there's a LOT of powers that would pay good money to know exactly what kind of firepower it takes to sink a modern carrier. See if a bunch of them would go in for a group buy or something.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #737 on: 06 May 2019, 09:58:45 »
Classified report leaked to the public: "To sink modern carrier: 1) Drop crane on deck. 2) Watch."



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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #738 on: 06 May 2019, 12:15:01 »
Now for some different ships . . .

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #739 on: 06 May 2019, 12:18:36 »
The hell is that?!?
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #740 on: 06 May 2019, 12:22:42 »
Game of Thrones?

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #741 on: 06 May 2019, 12:23:11 »
Lol, we know what you do NOT watch . . .

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #742 on: 06 May 2019, 12:24:44 »
The hell is that?!?
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #743 on: 06 May 2019, 12:50:39 »
please remember that it is no-spoilers outside the dedicated threads for them?

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #744 on: 06 May 2019, 13:05:38 »
The US Carrier Fleet once apon a time..


USS Eisenhower, George H.W. Bush, Enterprise, and Abraham Lincoln. Along with I think is USS Wasp LHD-1 in the backdrop with a Auxiliary ship.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #745 on: 06 May 2019, 13:29:05 »
My picture is a previous season clip off shore of Casterly Rock- so 2 years old?

How old is that shot?
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #746 on: 06 May 2019, 14:08:46 »
Also whats up with the SU-57 program?

Cancelled. Or, in Moscow's words, too good for this world:

“The Su-57 is considered to be one of the best aircraft produced in the world. Consequently, it does not make sense to speed up work on mass-producing the fifth-generation aircraft.”

Although the Indians pulling out of a joint project, lack of interested external buyers, and state of the Russian economy may have had more to do with it.

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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #747 on: 06 May 2019, 14:44:29 »
The Indians pulled out of the light attack craft project?
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #748 on: 06 May 2019, 14:51:10 »
The Indians pulled out of the light attack craft project?

After all the shenanigans that happened with the refitted Kiev they got done in Russia, I can't say I don't blame them.
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Re: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise
« Reply #749 on: 06 May 2019, 14:52:06 »
My picture is a previous season clip off shore of Casterly Rock- so 2 years old?

How old is that shot?

Would love to see more updated shot with the big Updated Scorpions on the hull of the ships.
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