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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #150 on: 13 November 2019, 23:00:00 »
I'm going to speculate that the HAR-201 is "Heavy Assault Rifle", the AGL-25/35 is either "Auto Grenade Launcher" or "Advanced Grenade Launcher", and HG is...

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #151 on: 13 November 2019, 23:21:14 »
I'm going to speculate that the HAR-201 is "Heavy Assault Rifle", the AGL-25/35 is either "Auto Grenade Launcher" or "Advanced Grenade Launcher", and HG is...

Someone's been reading my notes :D Very very close! :D  But...you should see what they are hopefully within a few weeks :)
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #152 on: 14 November 2019, 05:49:26 »
Nice, so far, but:
I know that the FG-42 was a cool weapon - far far to early for its time - and side magazines are sexy. We all knew that.... but boy not at this position.

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #153 on: 14 November 2019, 06:39:45 »
Don't worry, the AGL-25/35 isn't a high ROF weapon and its fairly low recoil ish. Unless you're a normal human and you pick up the AGL-35 which is made for non BA Elementals. Then you might be stinging after firing.
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #154 on: 14 November 2019, 07:09:04 »
The recoil is not the problem, that the magazine is right in the place that should be consumed by your face or throat when aiming.
(unless you are left-handed but that means - changing mag is a pain.  ;)

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #155 on: 14 November 2019, 07:18:25 »
The recoil is not the problem, that the magazine is right in the place that should be consumed by your face or throat when aiming.
(unless you are left-handed but that means - changing mag is a pain.  ;)

Good point, but we had to change something to make it look a lot less like the refernce material and the side mounted mag (which can be rotated over to the other side) was the best option really :D
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #156 on: 14 November 2019, 07:30:28 »
Good point, but we had to change something to make it look a lot less like the refernce material and the side mounted mag (which can be rotated over to the other side) was the best option really :D
rotating... why not simply use a revolver then (JackHammer)  :D

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #157 on: 14 November 2019, 07:52:10 »
Because, as you said, side mags are cool :p
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #158 on: 14 November 2019, 08:28:22 »
Because, as you said, side mags are cool :p

Could do a top mounted mag and a side-mounted scope.

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #159 on: 15 November 2019, 07:15:35 »
Maybe move the magazine over the trigger and you still have a sexy but more important functional design
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #160 on: 15 November 2019, 08:12:54 »
Maybe move the magazine over the trigger and you still have a sexy but more important functional design
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Unfortunately its kind of done now.



so no changes can be made, its a clunky layout for sure but I'm still happy with it :)
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #161 on: 15 November 2019, 12:48:25 »
Unfortunately its kind of done now.

so no changes can be made, its a clunky layout for sure but I'm still happy with it :)
There is another option, fluff it as having intakes on both sides, than an infantry man can choose their preferred side or go nuts with double magazines.
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #162 on: 15 November 2019, 13:08:12 »
There is another option, fluff it as having intakes on both sides, than an infantry man can choose their preferred side or go nuts with double magazines.
especially a un-armored elemental with two.... spraying 35mm explosive rounds from the hip  ;D

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #163 on: 15 November 2019, 13:17:44 »
There is another option, fluff it as having intakes on both sides, than an infantry man can choose their preferred side or go nuts with double magazines.

That's one of the things, the magazine can load left or right, not both sadly :p
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #164 on: 16 November 2019, 06:38:43 »
So we wee update on Project Zhukov.

Its almost done, save for some edits and a bit here and there to be altered (again, mostly in the editing).  Its a case of waiting on one unit sketch to be completed now and then 3 gun sketches to, like the unit to turn from sketches into full pictures and this shouldn't take too long.

The one character picture in it is coming along nicely.



That's the basic details of the image, so its colours and other touches for him, we're also working on an OOB but this is raising questions on how the Horses attach infantry to formations as they're pretty much the only Clan to use them outside of security/anti-bandit roles. Are there Infantry stars in Clusters or are they attached in a more ad-hoc manner? We're having to try and bang out some doctrine to figure it out and this might mean a bit more writing for the OOB and associated details with it. But, this isn't a bad thing and, barring no major disasters, the project should, fingers crossed be finished by the end of the month :)
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #165 on: 16 November 2019, 10:15:22 »
Those dreadlocks are interesting. She is an elemental?
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #166 on: 16 November 2019, 10:26:06 »
Those dreadlocks are interesting. She is an elemental?

He and nope, a Warrior, but one that commands a tank and who would go on to be the driving force behind Project Zhukov. At the time of the setting the Horses are moving away from their combined arms approach and going towards the supremacy of the Mech. But there's Warriors of various ranks who call themselves 'Traditionalists' often tank commanders who think this is a bad idea. Forming a bloc in the Horses pushing to keep the Horses traditional combined arms approach that worked so well for their Founders. Some of the more driven and outspoken ones would wear their hair long, knowing full well that it's not the best thing for a neurohelmet and its basically a political statement. And this chap here, would go on to be the Horses saKhan..so yep definately a statement there :D

Of course this is all headcanon stuff but I think it works.
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #167 on: 18 November 2019, 16:59:57 »




Some heavy weapons for un-battle armoured Elemental troops operating in the heavy/assault infantry role.

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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #168 on: 18 November 2019, 20:17:29 »
That is serious heavy metal heat their packing.
Are you going give stats for those things, including AS, ATOW, i'm not thinking about MW:D since stats aren't really public.
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« Reply #169 on: 19 November 2019, 01:11:21 »
That is serious heavy metal heat their packing.
Are you going give stats for those things, including AS, ATOW, i'm not thinking about MW:D since stats aren't really public.

Ya mean something that might read...

Item:
RG-88
Equipment Rating:
E/X-X-D/E
AP/BD:
6B/6
Range:
45/120/375/1000
Shots:
5, 6 PPS
Damage:
0.63
Cost/Reload:
5,000
AFF:
Clan/Hell’s Horses
Mass/Reload:
14 KG/4.5 KG
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By any chance? :D
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #170 on: 19 November 2019, 06:03:28 »
So... is that a crew of 1E, or 2?  ???

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« Reply #171 on: 19 November 2019, 06:15:54 »
One Elemental :) If an Elemental can run around with the MUCH bigger Bearhunter



This is a lot smaller.
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #172 on: 19 November 2019, 06:24:33 »
The Bearhunter has a crew of 2 (per Tech Manual).

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« Reply #173 on: 19 November 2019, 06:37:24 »
The Bearhunter has a crew of 2 (per Tech Manual).

Ahh, i'm just going off the art. If those guys are jump pack troops (in the pic above) then the other crewman wouldn't be there, I think that's just a gaming abstract rule. The ammo backpack and gun would be carried by 1 Elemental and used by him/her.
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« Reply #174 on: 20 November 2019, 15:57:43 »
The second guy could be handling the ammo, verses the gunner holding da gun.
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #175 on: 20 November 2019, 21:29:39 »
That's how it works in the rules: only the "gunner" fires the support weapon... the other crew members fire their own "primary" weapons.

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« Reply #176 on: 20 November 2019, 23:41:32 »
That's how it works in the rules: only the "gunner" fires the support weapon... the other crew members fire their own "primary" weapons.

Ahh got ya, but i'd say head cannony that would be..awkward to say the least on say jump troops to have to move and operate together with one carrying the ammo, the other carrying the gun, and that kind of set up is purely a rules abstraction. In reality the ammo and gun would be carried by the Elemental. You can fit a lot of ammo in with caseless rounds and yeah its heavy but your average Elemental is taller than the actor who played The Mountain in GOT and probably as strong (and he's one of if not the strongest men in the world who recently deadlifted over a ton). Their body armour would probably have lil servo's in the joints and act like an exoskeleton with weight bearing bits and bobs to help as well.
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #177 on: 21 November 2019, 05:34:49 »
The second crew would just carry MORE ammo, and pass it on as necessary/able.  At least, that's how I see it...

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« Reply #178 on: 21 November 2019, 07:04:55 »
The second crew would just carry MORE ammo, and pass it on as necessary/able.  At least, that's how I see it...

Aye, in the fluff for the XG-88 I said that other members of the squad would carry 1000 round clips on them and would give them to the gunners as and when needed. :)

Ya can find the fluff and so much more here - https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=67577.0
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Re: Something on the horizon
« Reply #179 on: 05 December 2019, 17:41:04 »
The last bit of art is coming along nicely, should be done in a day or so but here's a sneak peek



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