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Fan XTRO: The Society
« on: 21 December 2018, 14:33:50 »

The Wars of Reaving sourcebook has left me wanting for more products that include the Society, this desire eventually gave rise to working on a Society AU and this XTRO, which brings the Society to 3145.

I have enjoyed working on this Fan XTRO and I hope that everyone will have as much fun with it as I have. It took a lot of work but I couldn't have reached this stage without the help of follow fans and talented artists. Please give feedback (in any form) so that I can learn to do a better job in the future. Also, I am happy that we managed to complete it before Christmas, so that I can offer it to the community as an early Christmas gift, please enjoy!


Second Edition (June 2019): https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qhc7yra94uynpq/Society%20XTRO%20v2.pdf?dl=0
First Edition (December 2018): https://www.dropbox.com/s/03dl69bpwmugk56/Society%20XTRO%20v1.pdf?dl=0


Edit: Added the second edition.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #1 on: 21 December 2018, 14:41:56 »
I will definitely be checking this out! It's been a while since I read the Wars of Reaving book, but I do remember thinking there was a lot of possibility there to explore.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #2 on: 21 December 2018, 14:54:50 »
I just flipped threw this amazing book.... GREAT JOB!!!! everything from BA to warships to space warships. 

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #3 on: 21 December 2018, 15:17:41 »
I.)  Awesome.

II.)  A Hellstar with an Interface Cockpit.  I suppose the Society would be the go to for ‘how can we make the best thing better.’

III.)  Love the fluff, and (perhaps as a product of coming out of a fleshed out AU) most things feel like they make sense.

IV.)  Im not sure the Coreship carries enough droppers.  The only thing I can think is they stole drop-collars off a fleet of hulks...  which makes sense.

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #4 on: 21 December 2018, 15:41:19 »
I absolutely love this book so far (still reading)
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #5 on: 21 December 2018, 16:48:17 »
This stuff is amazing! Very well done! Really fun designs and beautifully laid out!

I don't know that I see the Society becoming quite as... well-resourced as they appear in this TRO, to the point of fielding multiple 2megaton warships. But maybe in this AU the Clans and Great Houses have moved along quite a bit as well? I dunno... Anyway, well done again, excellent work!

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #6 on: 21 December 2018, 16:57:15 »
I was very happy to help out with this it's a great product

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #7 on: 21 December 2018, 17:50:08 »
Just finished reading this, amazingly well done.  The fluff, designs and art are all top notch.  Any chance we can get more info on the AU this is based in?

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #8 on: 21 December 2018, 18:24:18 »
I wish the society had escort ship to the Core ship.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #9 on: 21 December 2018, 21:17:30 »
Awesome! Great addition!
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #10 on: 21 December 2018, 23:33:51 »
This is a super nice addon to the game.

Thanks for making it.

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #11 on: 22 December 2018, 01:27:55 »
It adds something i think CGL made mistake not keeping  the Society out there, as active faction. It would have been great wrinkle to add to universe. I wish this stuff was canon!
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #12 on: 22 December 2018, 02:51:00 »
Very nicely done, sir.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #13 on: 22 December 2018, 05:37:58 »
Is it already Christmas Day? Awesome work, I really like it. :thumbsup:
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #14 on: 22 December 2018, 10:32:36 »

Thanks everyone for this amazing reception.
It is really motivating me to go further.


Any chance we can get more info on the AU this is based in?
I do have plans for a Field Manual that updates the AU to 3150+, but that will require IlClan.
Currently I have a detailed, logical and flexible framework that can be adjusted and polished into something good. However please feel free to ask questions about the AU, your feedback will help make any further fan products better.


I wish the society had escort ship to the Core ship.
Yep, it does rely a lot on PWS and other combat DropShips. I had early plans for an escort WS, but it sadly didn't fit into the mass budget estimations of recyclable hulks, and thus didn't make enough sense for inclusion.


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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #15 on: 22 December 2018, 13:20:43 »
Thank you for this amazing Christmas present. The art is fantastic and the XTRO is amazingly well put together. The different mutations got me thinking X-Com. Having a great time reading it and look forward to more. I'd like to see a Field Report The Society and hear what they are up to. Do they want to be left alone or are they out to conquer??

Ahh, so, the Society XTRO drops.  You guys are going to LOVE this.  Professional quality; excellent layout, all-new art by Plog (and a cover by Anthony Scroggins!).  Covers everything from BA, Protos, conventional vehicles, Mechs, and AeroSpace.  Excellent work.

Agreed. Great work maingunnery, red pins, and everyone else who worked on this one!

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #16 on: 22 December 2018, 13:32:02 »
Thanks everyone for this amazing reception.
It is really motivating me to go further.

I do have plans for a Field Manual that updates the AU to 3150+, but that will require IlClan.
Currently I have a detailed, logical and flexible framework that can be adjusted and polished into something good. However please feel free to ask questions about the AU, your feedback will help make any further fan products better.

Is this book pertaining to it's own AU with fiction?  The Battletech Fan Wiki be great place to list them as well here.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #17 on: 23 December 2018, 03:13:13 »
I'm glad I could contribute a tiny bit towards this and its great to see it out and done :D  Amazing work mate, super proud of you!
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« Reply #18 on: 04 January 2019, 12:13:07 »
Downloaded and read.

Well done, especially I liked the OmniProtos and mutagen injections :P

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #19 on: 04 January 2019, 12:37:40 »
Maingunnery
amazing work but i made page 17 and 30 double so i can see in the Acrobat Reader the Mechs on left and right side like you started on the Protomechs
The Artworks are Amazing texts i read later

Interesting simply design you use but with this arts its looks very well

good job

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #20 on: 04 January 2019, 19:07:35 »
Maingunnery
amazing work but i made page 17 and 30 double so i can see in the Acrobat Reader the Mechs on left and right side like you started on the Protomechs
The Artworks are Amazing texts i read later

Interesting simply design you use but with this arts its looks very well

good job
Thanks for the complements and feedback, I will pay attention in the future to the left-right sides in the entire document.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #21 on: 04 January 2019, 23:10:39 »
Thanks for sharing this!!  I love the designs.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #22 on: 05 January 2019, 11:12:09 »
Thanks for the complements and feedback, I will pay attention in the future to the left-right sides in the entire document.

i have edit it with my CadKas programm in this i siply copy this pages and placed it in also i have page 30 and 17 double
a nice art work had place there by both where maybe 3 mechs fight each other or with each other and by the jetzts i would made an attack or space flight

I must find the time to read it  because i wanna know what the storys of the mechs who are base on Phantom, Nova and Warhawk if you let them base on them i would love it
The Warhawk style mech maybe would work as configuration to.
In same way i wanna look to the weapons deeper (i take me time for this) and hope you use some of the modern Society Equipments

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #23 on: 26 January 2019, 13:13:55 »
Totally missed this. Very cool. So much Plog artwork, I love it. :D

I'd like to offer some constructive criticism.

Not much in the way of new vees, which is odd considering how large vee Un formations are. If you want, feel free to use anything I've posted previously, particularly for the ONN section.

The mech names seem out of place. The three original Society mechs were all named after various medical-related conditions; the mechs in this XTRO don't seem to follow any convention, and none are medical related. One in particular, Dyrnwyn, sounds more like something that should be a Proto or Vee name, being based on mythology.

A few units have quirks, but most don't. More quirks, please?

On a technical note, could the next update include bookmarks? Makes navigating the file much easier and handier.

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #24 on: 26 January 2019, 13:22:23 »
Thanks for the feedback, I will take that into account for a post-IlClan update.
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« Reply #25 on: 06 February 2019, 05:20:41 »
Very cool!

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« Reply #26 on: 10 February 2019, 22:43:15 »
Hadn't notice this earlier.
Pretty good all in all.

lol@ nuclear iATMs.
I remember i calculated in one thread that one could theoretically rule that BT LRMs can be fitted with a nuclear warhead, fun to see someone else figured the same idea. Except eviler, and with actually rather reasonable purpose.


Surprised at lack of stealth systems though, would've imagine that the Society would either copy and develop the Inner Sphere stealth armor or Void-sig, or utilize Chameleon and/or Null-sig (Nova CEWS is fully compatible with these per rules).

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« Reply #27 on: 11 February 2019, 12:54:50 »
Surprised at lack of stealth systems though, would've imagine that the Society would either copy and develop the Inner Sphere stealth armor or Void-sig, or utilize Chameleon and/or Null-sig (Nova CEWS is fully compatible with these per rules).
I had something, but it got culled from the first release, like so many other things....
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« Reply #28 on: 12 February 2019, 00:10:08 »
I had something, but it got culled from the first release, like so many other things....
In the Society Toybox thread?

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« Reply #29 on: 12 February 2019, 12:53:16 »
In the Society Toybox thread?
Yes, Modular Stealth. The only thin that would really add value, but I didn't end up using it on anything. 
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« Reply #30 on: 12 February 2019, 13:40:36 »
Stealth systems tend to require a degree of integration to the design that isn't very modular; if something is to be stealthy, it has to be built from the ground up to take advantage of that stealth. Instead, I'd suggest a stealth system for vees and aerospace that isn't armor and wouldn't require ECM to work. This it would allow them to keep using things like Ferro-Lamellar, Reflective, Hardened armor, etc.

Thus there's design space for an aerospace fighter whose role is reconnaissance and interception, but also room for another of similar weight that is a cheap, robust, all-purpose unit. The heat generated by stealth systems is usually a big burden and means configs have to take that into careful consideration; if the weapon loadout is such that it can't really be used with Stealth active, then any unit using that config is basically paying extra for a system that it can't use.

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« Reply #31 on: 13 February 2019, 03:16:32 »
Yes, Modular Stealth. The only thin that would really add value, but I didn't end up using it on anything.

Wouldn't that be a podded ECM Suite?

Stealth systems tend to require a degree of integration to the design that isn't very modular; if something is to be stealthy, it has to be built from the ground up to take advantage of that stealth. Instead, I'd suggest a stealth system for vees and aerospace that isn't armor and wouldn't require ECM to work. This it would allow them to keep using things like Ferro-Lamellar, Reflective, Hardened armor, etc.

Thus there's design space for an aerospace fighter whose role is reconnaissance and interception, but also room for another of similar weight that is a cheap, robust, all-purpose unit. The heat generated by stealth systems is usually a big burden and means configs have to take that into careful consideration; if the weapon loadout is such that it can't really be used with Stealth active, then any unit using that config is basically paying extra for a system that it can't use.


Like some kind of stealthy cosmetic that's placed onto the unit? I can see that working for vehicles but I'm not sure about fighters.

TRO:2750 mentions various types of armor such as stealth and reflective. I house ruled it as stealth was effective against standard sensors but not probes and reflective only subtracted 1 point of damage to a minimum of 1.

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« Reply #32 on: 13 February 2019, 09:24:09 »
Wouldn't that be a podded ECM Suite?
No, ECM works quite differently, both in BT and real life.
In BT, ECM shuts down enemy electronic systems like C3, Artemis, etc.
In real life, ECM radiates energy to confuse enemy sensors, which is the opposite of stealth. The enemy may not be able to get a proper lock or know exactly where an aircraft using ECM is, but they know it's *there*.
In real life, stealth makes it hard to detect and get a lock on such units. In BT, stealth adds a to-hit modifier that is range-dependent.

TRO:2750 mentions various types of armor such as stealth and reflective. I house ruled it as stealth was effective against standard sensors but not probes and reflective only subtracted 1 point of damage to a minimum of 1.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Laser_Reflective_Armor
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stealth_Armor
Those are what I was thinking of. What page(s) does the TRO 3025 mention those things?

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« Reply #33 on: 13 February 2019, 09:49:14 »
Just wanted to pop in and add to the consensus that this is really great work. Something akin to this is definitely on my Battletech bucket list.
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« Reply #34 on: 13 February 2019, 10:08:27 »
In real life, ECM radiates energy to confuse enemy sensors, which is the opposite of stealth. The enemy may not be able to get a proper lock or know exactly where an aircraft using ECM is, but they know it's *there*.

That's how ECM works in BT. A big bubble that sensors can't see through unless they're stronger than the ECM.


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In real life, stealth makes it hard to detect and get a lock on such units. In BT, stealth adds a to-hit modifier that is range-dependent.

Sounds like its harder to lock on to to me.

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http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Laser_Reflective_Armor
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stealth_Armor
Those are what I was thinking of. What page(s) does the TRO 3025 mention those things?


They're in TRO:2750.

The Spad entry pg 62 says it's sloped wing design and special alloy wing tips help project echos that plays havoc with with enemy targeting systems. The entry also says that Spad's armor, the Carbondale III Plating System uses individual plates of armor woven to deflect laser hits after they penetrate the outer skin.

The Gotha entry page 72 says that that Carbondale IV Ferro-Fibrous Armor can deflect shots and is the most sophisticated armor ever produced.

TRO:3025 might have some other special Armor besides the Marauder's and Orion's but itd take time to look.'

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« Reply #35 on: 21 May 2019, 09:50:07 »
I went to build the Dyrnwyn in SSW, and ran into a typo. The TRO Ferro Lam armor in the stat block
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« Reply #36 on: 21 May 2019, 12:05:30 »
I went to build the Dyrnwyn in SSW, and ran into a typo. The TRO Ferro Lam armor in the stat block
Thanks, I will correct that asap.
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« Reply #37 on: 21 May 2019, 13:34:30 »
That's how ECM works in BT. A big bubble that sensors can't see through unless they're stronger than the ECM.
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Sounds like its harder to lock on to to me.
But it's not how stealth works. The difference is passive vs active defense. When ECM is on, it's broadcasting to the enemy "I'm here somewhere". Stealth tries to make detection harder in the first place, not just the process of  locking on. There are techniques for defeating ECM, from "burning through" to using Home on Jam systems, especially when dealing with barrage jamming.

They're in TRO:2750.

The Spad entry pg 62 says it's sloped wing design and special alloy wing tips help project echos that plays havoc with with enemy targeting systems. The entry also says that Spad's armor, the Carbondale III Plating System uses individual plates of armor woven to deflect laser hits after they penetrate the outer skin.

The Gotha entry page 72 says that that Carbondale IV Ferro-Fibrous Armor can deflect shots and is the most sophisticated armor ever produced.

TRO:3025 might have some other special Armor besides the Marauder's and Orion's but itd take time to look.'
Yeah, TRO fluff (especially early stuff) can get pretty deep into describing problems that don't have any mechanical change. The Marauder in 3025 talks about how its PPCs are of an advanced design that are compact enough to be carried in the arms, which doesn't really translate to anything at all. It also describes weak linkages between the leg and torso, an autocannon that's more exposed and easy to disable, and the tracking system blocking the pilot's view. If you're going to give bonuses to mechs based on the TRO fluff, you should give them all their maluses as well.
It could be argued that these improvements over other things are just not big enough to warrant a change in mechanics.

I went to build the Dyrnwyn in SSW, and ran into a typo. The TRO Ferro Lam armor in the stat block
Yeah, armor factor says it's Ferro Lam while everything else points towards Ferro Fibrous.

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« Reply #38 on: 21 May 2019, 20:26:31 »
But it's not how stealth works. The difference is passive vs active defense. When ECM is on, it's broadcasting to the enemy "I'm here somewhere". Stealth tries to make detection harder in the first place, not just the process of  locking on. There are techniques for defeating ECM, from "burning through" to using Home on Jam systems, especially when dealing with barrage jamming.

Exactly. ECM is a big bubble of I'm here somewhere" while stealth is "Can't see me!" Both systems try to hide things. One's just more obvious about it.


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Yeah, TRO fluff (especially early stuff) can get pretty deep into describing problems that don't have any mechanical change. The Marauder in 3025 talks about how its PPCs are of an advanced design that are compact enough to be carried in the arms, which doesn't really translate to anything at all. It also describes weak linkages between the leg and torso, an autocannon that's more exposed and easy to disable, and the tracking system blocking the pilot's view. If you're going to give bonuses to mechs based on the TRO fluff, you should give them all their maluses as well.
It could be argued that these improvements over other things are just not big enough to warrant a change in mechanics.

I agree there should be minuses to go along with pluses. I also think that sometimes the pluses and minuses can be balanced and other times not. I do like the Quirks as it lets some of the fluff abilities to be used but unfortunately they don't cover everything. For the Maurader, I think it'd have the exposed weapon linkage (AC/5), exposed actuators (hips), a plus for its type of armor, a increased piloting penalty for no sensors, and flippable arms. As for the PPCs, my head canon says that there were older PPCs that either took up a lot more crits, or were just not allowed in the arms. Kind of like how OMNIs can't have hand actuators and ACs in the same arm.

It's also why I kind of wish there was more to Fractional accounting. TROs 2750 and 3050 would still be legal under advanced rules. It'd also allow for more variation in weaponry. Like the Wyvern's Night Star Large Laser being older and more bulky. I give it an extra .25 tons to fill in the 2750's 44.75 tons. I also house rule it can only be mounted in an arm or vehicle body. But that's just me. 


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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #39 on: 22 May 2019, 09:10:12 »
Exactly. ECM is a big bubble of I'm here somewhere" while stealth is "Can't see me!" Both systems try to hide things. One's just more obvious about it.


I agree there should be minuses to go along with pluses. I also think that sometimes the pluses and minuses can be balanced and other times not. I do like the Quirks as it lets some of the fluff abilities to be used but unfortunately they don't cover everything. For the Maurader, I think it'd have the exposed weapon linkage (AC/5), exposed actuators (hips), a plus for its type of armor, a increased piloting penalty for no sensors, and flippable arms. As for the PPCs, my head canon says that there were older PPCs that either took up a lot more crits, or were just not allowed in the arms. Kind of like how OMNIs can't have hand actuators and ACs in the same arm.

It's also why I kind of wish there was more to Fractional accounting. TROs 2750 and 3050 would still be legal under advanced rules. It'd also allow for more variation in weaponry. Like the Wyvern's Night Star Large Laser being older and more bulky. I give it an extra .25 tons to fill in the 2750's 44.75 tons. I also house rule it can only be mounted in an arm or vehicle body. But that's just me.
I was always a bit curious why fractional accounting went away.  Granted some of the vehicles in the older TRO 3050 had some odd size cargo bins but it's not like a pocket calculator is hard to find, even in the '80's.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #40 on: 25 May 2019, 11:10:04 »
I was always a bit curious why fractional accounting went away.  Granted some of the vehicles in the older TRO 3050 had some odd size cargo bins but it's not like a pocket calculator is hard to find, even in the '80's.

Easier to add things up I guess. But it is kind of weird since there's still items that weigh .25 tons.

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« Reply #41 on: 26 May 2019, 06:07:19 »

Working on updating the XTRO, here is a small preview of what is to come:

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« Reply #42 on: 26 May 2019, 06:24:58 »
Looks good!  Reminds me what would have Happened if R2-D2 got angry and went rambo!  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 26 May 2019, 08:34:34 »
Working on updating the XTRO, here is a small preview of what is to come:



oooooooh....Very nice! :D
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« Reply #44 on: 26 May 2019, 13:06:30 »
I've recently painted up a bunch of Society stuff and the very next thing I do is find this. Amazing stuff!

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« Reply #45 on: 09 June 2019, 21:03:09 »
Wow, Maingunnery. Love the work.  Man after my own heart with the Society designs.

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« Reply #46 on: 10 June 2019, 02:13:04 »
This kind of thing is definitely what should have been done for the society; a new ultra-high tech adversary to put those rare pieces of equipment into general use, explaining the continued development of super-advanced weapons while keeping it restricted to a single faction until some time in the future when a new boogyman is needed.
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« Reply #47 on: 10 June 2019, 05:39:15 »
Been working on the record sheets here is a small preview in the attachment.

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« Reply #48 on: 10 June 2019, 07:09:09 »
Wow, that thing hair short of a Battleship.  I thought it was more a converted warship turn civilian ship.  That properly be rude surprise to NPC raiders looking for easy kill.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #49 on: 11 June 2019, 19:16:32 »
Looks good!  Reminds me what would have Happened if R2-D2 got angry and went rambo!  ;D
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« Reply #50 on: 11 June 2019, 22:55:36 »
Been working on the record sheets here is a small preview in the attachment.
Have to wonder the backstory here. That's a warship 5/6 the size of the Leviathan. Producing something like that is a serious investment in resources and personnel, something not many factions could pull off post-Jihad.

Who is building it? It seems out of scope for the Society to be able to pull off, at least not before a century or two of trying to rebuild.

On the design itself, it's like a Leviathan that does the heavy transport job better. No battery hampers it a bit, though.

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« Reply #51 on: 13 June 2019, 17:31:30 »

The fluff makes it plain that's its a mobile base for the society, with any single ship being capable of rebuilding the society from scratch. Also, many of them were built with large parts of their structure salvaged from other ships.
The lack of an LF battery is a problem, but I expect given the relatively short ranges of most Btech sensor systems and the fact that the society probably keeps these things in out of the way locations like the Oort clouds, detection, short of betrayal or bad luck, isn't the same issue it'd be for a warship.

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« Reply #52 on: 13 June 2019, 18:06:39 »
The fluff makes it plain that's its a mobile base for the society, with any single ship being capable of rebuilding the society from scratch. Also, many of them were built with large parts of their structure salvaged from other ships.
The lack of an LF battery is a problem, but I expect given the relatively short ranges of most Btech sensor systems and the fact that the society probably keeps these things in out of the way locations like the Oort clouds, detection, short of betrayal or bad luck, isn't the same issue it'd be for a warship.

Sounds legit.

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« Reply #53 on: 13 June 2019, 18:17:51 »

Actually MML doesn't show everything on WarShip Record Sheets, such the number of Dockcollars, Lithium-Fusion Batteries, Large Naval Comm-Scanner
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« Reply #54 on: 14 June 2019, 11:08:56 »
The fluff makes it plain that's its a mobile base for the society, with any single ship being capable of rebuilding the society from scratch. Also, many of them were built with large parts of their structure salvaged from other ships.
The lack of an LF battery is a problem, but I expect given the relatively short ranges of most Btech sensor systems and the fact that the society probably keeps these things in out of the way locations like the Oort clouds, detection, short of betrayal or bad luck, isn't the same issue it'd be for a warship.


Speaking of, I couldn't find the story Fragmentation over at fanfiction.net.  Anybody have an idea why?

*Never mind, found it.  Odd, it wasn't coming up when I searched the title.
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« Reply #55 on: 14 June 2019, 15:15:18 »
Speaking of, I couldn't find the story Fragmentation over at fanfiction.net.  Anybody have an idea why?

*Never mind, found it.  Odd, it wasn't coming up when I searched the title.

Can you toss a link my way?

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« Reply #56 on: 14 June 2019, 23:35:24 »
PM sent.
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #57 on: 15 June 2019, 03:14:30 »
A pity it wasn't finished. Quite interesting.

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« Reply #58 on: 15 June 2019, 14:11:12 »
what story?

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« Reply #59 on: 15 June 2019, 18:18:01 »
Fragmentation.

TLDR; belters jump out space colonies, become super-advanced.  Troll Cranston Snord, the Dragoons, and ComStar.  Enjoyable but never finished.

Has a couple of those face-slapping, "Why didn't I think of that?" -tech ideas, like using DropShips as batteries.

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« Reply #60 on: 15 June 2019, 18:50:27 »
Back to topic  ;)

The Second Edition is ready!
Since the first release I have been getting good feedback about this XTRO, and on the basis of that feedback I have made improvements to the XTRO.
I would also like to thank Dragon Cat, marauder648, and Red Pins again for their help. Without them I would have never been able to reach this quality. 

Here is the new download-link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qhc7yra94uynpq/Society%20XTRO%20v2.pdf?dl=0



Also I have an question for everyone here. Lately I have been pushing to put all the designs into MegaMekLab (for making record sheets) but I have run into some bugs and incomplete features. Also my attempts to insert my custom tech (Vehicular Endo Steel & BA Fusillade) into MML have run into issues.
This means that I can only make an incomplete set of Record Sheets with some flaws, but I can add comments, update this RS book whenever there is a relevant new MML release, and update whenever I succeed into adding in the custom gear to MML. Is this acceptable? Any suggestions for improving this process?
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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #61 on: 15 June 2019, 19:24:01 »
Happy to help it's a great project you've done exceedingly well with it

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #62 on: 15 June 2019, 19:37:19 »
Nice update. Thank You.

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Re: Fan XTRO: The Society
« Reply #63 on: 15 June 2019, 19:57:54 »
very nice.  enjoying reading this. 

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« Reply #64 on: 17 June 2019, 15:07:44 »
I liked this very much. Nice seeing new equipment on new units that are not just mechs.
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« Reply #65 on: 18 June 2019, 06:56:33 »
Yay! Great to see this put out for the public :) I'm glad I could help mate :D
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