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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #450 on: 16 August 2019, 09:22:49 »
Pretty much everything mentioned in Turning Point: St. Ives.

But not the Orca, interestingly!

Do you have a list? I do not have that product.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #452 on: 16 August 2019, 11:49:27 »
Six of the 'Mechs have record sheets in that one.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #453 on: 16 August 2019, 17:53:06 »
I don't see that anyone has mentioned the Defiance 'Zilla, which is referenced in the writeup for the WI-DM DemolitionMech in TR 3075. It's got an entry in the MUL, but all that gives us is the intro date.

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #454 on: 16 August 2019, 22:22:38 »
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Third_League_Turning_Points:_Free_Taiw...St._Ives
It is free but it is not canon.

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/100987/BattleTech-Third-League-Turning-Points-Free-TaiwSt-Ives?cPath=4328_4541

Darn. That's deliberate non-canon too. How could I forget that?
I don't see that anyone has mentioned the Defiance 'Zilla, which is referenced in the writeup for the WI-DM DemolitionMech in TR 3075. It's got an entry in the MUL, but all that gives us is the intro date.

The 'Zilla is another demo mech?
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These, in the day when heaven was falling,      Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
The hour when earth's foundations fled,         They stood, and earth's foundations stay;
Followed their mercenary calling,               What God abandoned, these defended,
And took their wages, and are dead.             And saved the sum of things for pay.
     
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #455 on: 16 August 2019, 22:29:00 »
Darn. That's deliberate non-canon too. How could I forget that?
The 'Zilla is another demo mech?
Yes, it's a Defiance competitor to the Capellan's WI-DM DemolitionMech.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #456 on: 13 September 2019, 15:32:21 »
Did you include any of the Red Corsair's companion mechs?  They were supposed to be IS designs like garrison units get, refit with some Clan weapons- specifically mentioned was a Vindicator with a cERPP I think.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #457 on: 13 September 2019, 16:20:01 »
That could almost work with SHS...  ^-^

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #458 on: 13 September 2019, 16:28:55 »
Well . . . a Vindicator gets interesting . . . considering when it was written, while it would technically be feasible for the AFFC to have lost a VND-1SIC, it was described as a -1R.  Give it a cERPPC & a cLRM5 and you get 2t free for SHS . . . pretty good throw weight for such a conversion.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #459 on: 13 September 2019, 16:32:18 »
Exactly what I was saying!  :)

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #460 on: 13 September 2019, 22:08:34 »
Did you include any of the Red Corsair's companion mechs?  They were supposed to be IS designs like garrison units get, refit with some Clan weapons- specifically mentioned was a Vindicator with a cERPP I think.

I'm not sure to what extent I want to stat out the custom rides.

I think if someone will start me with a list of such units that have a credible mention, but no art/stats and little/no fluff; I would curate it with the rest here.

Ditto the New-Old-New-Old stuff.

Give me a starter list and I'll keep up with the suggested additions.
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And took their wages, and are dead.             And saved the sum of things for pay.
     
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #461 on: 13 September 2019, 22:33:39 »
Like the Marauder C, etc it would be a depot level action . . . like I said, they should have had a LOT of left over IS mechs.  They were not all Atlas, Marauder, Warhammer, Shadow Hawk, Victor, Archer, Thunderbolt, Rifleman, etc that ended up being used as early filler.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #462 on: 14 September 2019, 08:41:33 »
Did you include any of the Red Corsair's companion mechs?  They were supposed to be IS designs like garrison units get, refit with some Clan weapons- specifically mentioned was a Vindicator with a cERPP I think.
If you go that route, there are hundreds of 'Mechs with artwork whose variants have no specific artwork.

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #463 on: 14 September 2019, 09:24:43 »
If you go that route, there are hundreds of 'Mechs with artwork whose variants have no specific artwork.

*I* definitely don't mean it like that; that would be more of a fan art project.

I think the...Games Unplugged?...I don't own them; but there were two issues which included art galleries for every variant then established for the Hunchback and Hatamoto-series.

What i am principally going for here with the Never-Seen is those units in BT which have been mentioned only rarely and probably not in great detail; but never statted out with a record sheet, limited, if any fluff.

Some of these will have no art at all; but my main goal here is to create an accounting and brain trust of the kinds of units that might go to fill XTROs and the handful of unit-entries in the back of new sourcebooks.

Like; wow. How cool would it be, if even as a photo-shopping we had someone going through the books and giving us representations of all the canon variants in art form?

Cool. But I don't so much need that as we once, needed at the time; stats for the Leviathan Jumpship. We have so few Jumpships in canon and the Leviathan kept coming up in odd references and sounded really neat from what we knew at the time. Now we have art, stats and fluff for the Leviathan JS and I think that's basically the ideal.

Something I added recently was a notation about the Dragoon's Ballistic-based Marauder II Variant mentioned in 3050 and attributed by the useless CASE in the wrong torso. We have art; we have fluff; we need stats. Headcanons aside.

So for a unique mech; we need stats and a record sheet. Maybe some fluff telling us how it came to be, even if only generally. For something like the Old-New-Old-New entries; we have art and fluff; we need full stats; at least a record sheet.

Some of this could be handled easily by the Devs if we had an official design program again; goodby record sheet docs, hello file-packs of various models that load and print from the program. Or I guess display on tablet for you non-luddites. But mainly, this is me kinda going to TPTB; hey! LOOK! You need something to fill five or so pages of that new book coming out? Here is a list of ideas, already established in canon, to one extent or another, once upon a time.
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These, in the day when heaven was falling,      Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
The hour when earth's foundations fled,         They stood, and earth's foundations stay;
Followed their mercenary calling,               What God abandoned, these defended,
And took their wages, and are dead.             And saved the sum of things for pay.
     
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #464 on: 16 September 2019, 03:01:26 »
If you go that route, there are hundreds of 'Mechs with artwork whose variants have no specific artwork.

Except it is not artwork, they are actually mentioned in the novel and we never got sheets for them . . . how long did it take to get a Red Corsair Battlemaster?
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #465 on: 17 September 2019, 10:45:20 »
Six of the 'Mechs have record sheets in that one.

But not the Urbanmech LAM  :'(

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #466 on: 17 September 2019, 11:14:14 »
Except it is not artwork, they are actually mentioned in the novel and we never got sheets for them . . . how long did it take to get a Red Corsair Battlemaster?

I think natural selection was the first appearance in 1992 (or was it bred for war?) OTP: Red Corsair was 2010 so only like eighteen years  :))

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #467 on: 17 September 2019, 11:41:29 »
But not the Urbanmech LAM  :'(

Only way to get a Urbanmech LAM is to mount the Urbanmech as a nosecone warhead on a capital missile.
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #468 on: 17 September 2019, 13:31:33 »
Only way to get a Urbanmech LAM is to mount the Urbanmech as a nosecone warhead on a capital missile.
Someone years ago did a one-off Comic strip with a UrbanMech LAM, looked interesting.  ;D
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #469 on: 17 September 2019, 21:50:14 »
Only way to get a Urbanmech LAM is to mount the Urbanmech as a nosecone warhead on a capital missile.

That would be interesting. :)


Someone years ago did a one-off Comic strip with a UrbanMech LAM, looked interesting.  ;D

Ooh! Would love to see it!  ;D



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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #470 on: 18 September 2019, 21:08:47 »
That would be interesting. :)

Ooh! Would love to see it!  ;D
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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #471 on: 18 September 2019, 21:15:01 »
Ha! Beat me to it... I had to ask the person who posted it that many ears ago, glitterboy2098!

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #473 on: 18 September 2019, 21:47:30 »
Is the Quasit LAM steam-powered?

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #474 on: 18 September 2019, 22:21:35 »
They get recycled vegetable oil from Kyle, the barista with the manbun

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #475 on: 19 September 2019, 17:08:00 »
Which Kyle? Stash or Mutt chops...  8)

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Re: The *literally* Never-Seen
« Reply #476 on: 21 September 2019, 06:47:01 »



I love it!  ;D  Thanks!  :thumbsup:



Is the Quasit LAM steam-powered?

That would be fun! :)

 

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