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« Reply #30 on: 14 September 2019, 23:21:24 »
I did have the idea of a Canopus-Born Merc (Obviously fanfiction) who was heavily robo'd up and started taking trophies of Manei Domini Cybernetics to replace any bits they broke as the Jihad went on... So I like this idea.

My recent non-canon mercs were led by a CO who lost an arm and replaced it with a bionic one hacked from the MD who blew his arm away.
I think Felix ended up with one bionic arm (lost on Donegal) and a leg (shot out of his Mech on Skye).

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« Reply #31 on: 15 September 2019, 11:57:45 »
Can we have a kickstarter to get 3067-forward spine novels???

Yeah, if we ever do get those novels, I hope they keep with the original idea. Just because we know what happens doesn't mean we can't get an interesting or compelling story.

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« Reply #32 on: 15 September 2019, 12:16:15 »
Shadows of Faith was supposed to be the first but went unfinished. Embers of War sets off the main characters toward Outreach at the same time as the WoB attack commences.

My copy of Embers also has the first chapter of Shadows as a bonus. Unsure if they included that as an intended sneak peak of a future release or just a epilogue to show the death of Jaime Wolf and act as a lead-in for the extant Jihad plot books. The c/w on Embers is 2015/16 so TPTB may have switched direction at that time on whether to finish Shadows.

Whatever the case, a printing of Redemption Rift is tentatively slated next along with the second and third books in the Rogue Academy trilogy

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« Reply #33 on: 16 September 2019, 08:35:57 »
Whatever the case, a printing of Redemption Rift is tentatively slated next along with the second and third books in the Rogue Academy trilogy
Is Redemption Rift the next book they announced in spine series?  jihad era novel?
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« Reply #34 on: 16 September 2019, 09:20:13 »
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« Reply #35 on: 16 September 2019, 16:11:01 »
Is Redemption Rift the next book they announced in spine series?  jihad era novel?

Redemption Rift was a BattleCorps serial novel about Wolf’s Dragoons going to work for the Draconis Combine and then fighting against the FedSuns in the Draconis Reach contested area circa 3139-40. It is being published in a single piece now.

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« Reply #36 on: 16 September 2019, 16:20:29 »
Redemption Rift was a BattleCorps serial novel about Wolf’s Dragoons going to work for the Draconis Combine and then fighting against the FedSuns in the Draconis Reach contested area circa 3139-40. It is being published in a single piece now.
Thank you, i'm looking forward buying it and reading it. I'm just doing the PoD this time if it's available.
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« Reply #37 on: 19 September 2019, 14:30:05 »
Just to prove that the universe can be run by someone who's not named Steiner-Davion?

*Pam's voice* But can it really . . ?

Considering VSD was such a big part of Stone's government & plans . . .
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« Reply #38 on: 19 September 2019, 15:54:25 »
even the dune universe didn't need the God Emperor after a while.

granted Chapterhouse was kind of a mess without him...

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« Reply #39 on: 19 September 2019, 18:49:40 »
But it was a good kind of mess... that and Heretics are my two favorite Dune books...

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« Reply #40 on: 19 September 2019, 22:09:48 »
*Pam's voice* But can it really . . ?

Considering VSD was such a big part of Stone's government & plans . . .

Was he though? The 3080s era source books makes me really feel like Lear was desperate to keep him on the periphery if policy, while he set the agenda for Stone.
Same way he was desperate to sideline Belle Lee to ensure she didn’t push back against said agenda.


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« Reply #41 on: 20 September 2019, 06:58:23 »
Perhaps im in minority but i did hope ASD was to become Stone. Set up in Pardoe's book was to good to undermind it. It was a damn shame.
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« Reply #42 on: 20 September 2019, 09:30:33 »
I like to imagine that part of the personality/memories of the former host survive in their salvaged parts.

And now I have a version of that old joke stuck in my head.

“What, do you have a little Steiner-Davion in you?” (Pulls off his medical ID wristband) “I do now.”

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« Reply #43 on: 20 September 2019, 10:14:01 »
And now I have a version of that old joke stuck in my head.

“What, do you have a little Steiner-Davion in you?” (Pulls off his medical ID wristband) “I do now.”
By now, all the royals in the Inner Sphere probably have a little Steiner-Davion in them.

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« Reply #44 on: 20 September 2019, 11:22:26 »
I guess Victor not the smallest of Han Davion's kids of them all.
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« Reply #45 on: 20 September 2019, 11:31:25 »
The trippy one?  Most of Vic's kids are The Master's grandkids . . .
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« Reply #46 on: 20 September 2019, 13:09:21 »
The trippy one?  Most of Vic's kids are The Master's grandkids . . .
There is nothing wrong with the Habsburg method of dynastic relations!

Make it so your neighbors don't want to make war on you for a generation by marrying their junior heirs.

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« Reply #47 on: 20 September 2019, 13:13:17 »
Well, I never saw anything in universe where it became widely known the Master was the real Thomas Marik.  So all of Vic's kids except Kitsune (of course, that raise's its own question of how the average Drac could overlook a kid in the royal family with a name based on a FOX!) could be going along blithely unaware until someone sprung that on them.
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« Reply #48 on: 21 September 2019, 06:22:28 »
Well, I never saw anything in universe where it became widely known the Master was the real Thomas Marik.

Maybe b/c the Master wasn't the real Thomas Marik.

Jihad:Final Reckoning straightened up that misconception.
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« Reply #49 on: 21 September 2019, 11:12:18 »
Maybe b/c the Master wasn't the real Thomas Marik.

Jihad:Final Reckoning straightened up that misconception.

Then please tell us who the real Thomas Marik was. Because Sarna, quoting Jihad: Final Reckoning among other sources, says the Master WAS in fact the real Thomas Marik.
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« Reply #50 on: 21 September 2019, 11:23:26 »
Maybe ASD is BT`s attempt of Hidden King Arthur tale?
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« Reply #51 on: 21 September 2019, 13:10:21 »
Maybe ASD is BT`s attempt of Hidden King Arthur tale?
One of many; Kerensky will return and Stone will return being the two most blatant.

Author's name alone would make a similar story trope heavy.

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« Reply #52 on: 21 September 2019, 13:57:42 »
Then please tell us who the real Thomas Marik was. Because Sarna, quoting Jihad: Final Reckoning among other sources, says the Master WAS in fact the real Thomas Marik.

I've no idea who the Master is. But it's not Thomas Marik.

J:FR pages 3 and 4, last respectively first sentence:
The sleeves of his white robe gathered at his elbows, exposing the composite mixture of metal, plastics, and myomers that replaced the flesh and blood he had not seen in over fifty years.

April 3081 minus 50+ years is 3030 or earlier. But Thomas Marik got his implants in 3035 at the earliest.

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« Reply #53 on: 21 September 2019, 14:54:33 »
Implants yes . . . prosthetics from being close to a big boom that replaced flesh?
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« Reply #54 on: 21 September 2019, 15:08:26 »
If implants or prosthetics is irrelevant - the big boom was 3035. Not 3030 or before.
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« Reply #55 on: 21 September 2019, 15:41:17 »
Likely an error by the writer. Unless something else is peaking around, everything written both in-universe and out has stated The Master was Thomas Marik.

I would go to the Ask the Writers section.

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« Reply #56 on: 21 September 2019, 16:14:42 »
As far as I've read there was never a confirmation by TPTB - that doesn't mean anything, I know, it could have gone past me.

The same for source books - there was never a confirmation, hard evidence, only assumptions. It fit so damn good, and the people fell in love with it.

But evidence? No. Just a theory, nothing more. A theory proven wrong by this one sentence in J:FR.

It's possible you're correct and the writer made a mistake. But so what?

Personally I don't care who the Master was. He's dead, Jim.
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« Reply #57 on: 21 September 2019, 16:31:16 »
I've no idea who the Master is. But it's not Thomas Marik.

J:FR pages 3 and 4, last respectively first sentence:
The sleeves of his white robe gathered at his elbows, exposing the composite mixture of metal, plastics, and myomers that replaced the flesh and blood he had not seen in over fifty years.

April 3081 minus 50+ years is 3030 or earlier. But Thomas Marik got his implants in 3035 at the earliest.
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« Reply #58 on: 22 September 2019, 02:59:42 »
I've no idea who the Master is. But it's not Thomas Marik.

J:FR pages 3 and 4, last respectively first sentence:
The sleeves of his white robe gathered at his elbows, exposing the composite mixture of metal, plastics, and myomers that replaced the flesh and blood he had not seen in over fifty years.

April 3081 minus 50+ years is 3030 or earlier. But Thomas Marik got his implants in 3035 at the earliest.

QED.

Claiming that that sentence is evidence of anything other than the author not being pedantically precise is an incredible stretch.
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« Reply #59 on: 22 September 2019, 03:40:03 »
Maybe Tom really liked his ComStar robes and swears up he did not navel gaze for 5 years.
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