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victor_shaw

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #60 on: 12 October 2019, 21:51:48 »
WCM and Focht both check out now.  As for the GSP, I think the first actually works better.  They're supposed to be superstars, after all.  Maybe increase the prerequisites?  Also, there's a 5 XP discrepancy between the topline and the list.

Cool on the check.
What I thought, but tend to be hesitant about high power/cost packages as they tend to be a must have.
Anyway, I agree the first is probably the best.
Not sure which part your talking about for the discrepancy?
If its in the second pack I guess it doesn't matter.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #61 on: 12 October 2019, 21:58:56 »
Regarding the first: you list 480 + Field Costs, but [Attributes] RFL (+100 XP); [Traits] Connections (+200 XP), Reputation (+100 XP); [Flexible XP] (+85 XP) adds up to 485.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #62 on: 12 October 2019, 22:08:45 »
Regarding the first: you list 480 + Field Costs, but [Attributes] RFL (+100 XP); [Traits] Connections (+200 XP), Reputation (+100 XP); [Flexible XP] (+85 XP) adds up to 485.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #63 on: 13 October 2019, 05:56:58 »
??? Looks like it's still adding up to 485 with a 480 top line in the post...

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #64 on: 13 October 2019, 15:07:28 »
??? Looks like it's still adding up to 485 with a 480 top line in the post...

I fixed it on the FRR/CS/WOB academy entry.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #65 on: 13 October 2019, 16:11:58 »
Ah, I'm blind... thanks!  :thumbsup:

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #66 on: 13 October 2019, 16:48:04 »
Ah, I'm blind... thanks!  :thumbsup:

Outside of my bad math, have you found anything I need to change or address about the Academies?

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #67 on: 13 October 2019, 16:49:42 »
I haven't bounced anything against my 3rd edition book yet... would you like me to?

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #68 on: 13 October 2019, 17:39:29 »
I haven't bounced anything against my 3rd edition book yet... would you like me to?

If it's not to much trouble.
Will give advanced warning that I had to modify a few of them (+/-) to get them to fall into the point values.
Tried my best to keep to the fluff/feel of the academies, but would love to hear your take on them.
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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #69 on: 13 October 2019, 18:48:40 »
Will do, if not tonight...  :thumbsup:

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #70 on: 20 October 2019, 09:26:46 »
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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #71 on: 20 October 2019, 10:23:10 »
Sorry to hear that!  PM will be coming your way shortly...

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #72 on: 27 October 2019, 11:06:43 »
Just a quick post to update the status of the project: MW3 checks complete for Liao and Davion Academies!

Kurita will be next, but probably not until next weekend.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #73 on: 03 November 2019, 16:50:29 »
MW3 checks for Kurita academies are complete!  Lyrans next weekend (maybe)...

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #74 on: 06 November 2019, 14:17:03 »
What about the Capellan Warrior Houses?
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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #75 on: 06 November 2019, 15:09:17 »
What about the Capellan Warrior Houses?

The Warrior House are not stage 3 academies.
They are covered by a stage 2/3 combo Warrior House Aspirant path in 3rd.
So would be hard to classify in the 4th edition.
I would say they are stage 2 military school + stage 3 Military Enlistment or Family Training.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #76 on: 06 November 2019, 22:42:12 »
This weekend is going to be tough... I'll be down in Norfolk for family stuff, so the Lyrans may have to wait another week.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #77 on: 07 November 2019, 07:45:46 »
This weekend is going to be tough... I'll be down in Norfolk for family stuff, so the Lyrans may have to wait another week.

I've been tied-up with family and job hunting issues so it may be more then a month before I can get to anything on this subject.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #78 on: 07 November 2019, 18:07:23 »
Rog, no worries, then...

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #79 on: 17 November 2019, 17:23:42 »
Lyran MW3 checks complete!  Next weekend (maybe) for the FWL...

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #80 on: 05 January 2020, 09:58:06 »
The holiday frenzy finally died down, so the FWL MW3 checks are as complete as I could make them.  I couldn't find actual stats for the Orloff Academy, so I had to wing it with the text based descriptions only.

Left to do (I think):
Periphery (3)
Mercenary (2)
FRR and ComStar (6)

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #81 on: 12 January 2020, 13:17:43 »
Periphery and Mercenary school MW3 checks are done!  I'll try to get to the last batch next week.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #82 on: 12 January 2020, 13:28:57 »
Why was the Taurian Concordat's Ecole Militaire not included? For the longest the only in the Periph and it's not even mentioned in any of AToW materials.
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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #83 on: 12 January 2020, 13:55:08 »
I honestly don't know... it's not in any of the MW3 material I've been using for reviews either.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #84 on: 18 January 2020, 11:23:12 »
Last batch has been sent!  That should do it for this project.  Over the next month or so, I'll take my own swing at individual academies in the other thread.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #85 on: 19 January 2020, 08:03:03 »
Why was the Taurian Concordat's Ecole Militaire not included? For the longest the only in the Periph and it's not even mentioned in any of AToW materials.

The places it is mentioned in the materiel are the The Periphery (FASA), Objectives: Periphery, Battletech-Handbook Major Periphery States, BattleTech Field Report 2765 Periphery books.
The first just states that it exists, second talking about the past glory of the academy and the third only has a brief one paragraph write-up on the types of courses and some flavor text on foreign guest lecturers.   
the last gives the impression that it's not really a top tier academy, liking it to the standard innersphere academies. "Each year,
EM’s graduating classes produce trained men and women with skills on par with their counterparts in any Great House state—Hegemony included—despite a lack of League-quality facilities and equipment."

Overall, it falls into the same category as many other mentioned but not truly flushed-out academies.

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #86 on: 19 January 2020, 08:11:36 »
Last batch has been sent!  That should do it for this project.  Over the next month or so, I'll take my own swing at individual academies in the other thread.

OK.
Time has been really,really,.... tight lately. Finding and getting uses to my new schedule at work, family issues and all that.
It will still be a few weeks before I can truly work on this project, but there is a silver lining.
With Daryk's help I have a base to work off and will get start back at it soon.
Thanks to Daryk for his great feedback and diligent proof reading of my drafts. :thumbsup:
Knowing my brainstorming process and (it works in my head) chicken scratch, I know it was a monumental task.

When its done I will start a new tread with the polished academies where they can be discussed and request can be made for additional material.
Also remember, these write-ups are my (with help from Daryk) interpretations of the 3rd ed materials in AToW and my not fit your view on your favorite academies.
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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #87 on: 19 January 2020, 08:34:43 »
You're very welcome!  I think you have a good approach here, but will take my own swing at it with a much narrower scope (as I outlined in my other thread).  Best of luck!  :thumbsup:

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Re: AToW Academy Paths
« Reply #88 on: 07 February 2020, 05:26:30 »
I recently (last week) ran a new AToW campaign and my players hated it even with the modified Academy Paths
Complaints
1. Character creation was like doing taxes.
2. Characters felt generic and life paths seemed bland and unnecessary.
3. System was to large and disjointed compared to the relative simplicity of 2nd.
4. And the most important point "it wasn't fun.
P.S. I also tried MechWarrior: Destiny with this group and that was the only good thing they had to say about AToW "well it's was better then MechWarrior: Destiny."
So by request of my players I am going to be moving back to 2nd edition.

Unfortunately this means that I will not be finishing my "AToW Academy Paths" work as the main reason for the work was for this campaign.
For anyone who wants a copy PM me or Daryk (if he is willing) for a copy of the Excel or PDF files and Daryk's proof reading notes.


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« Reply #89 on: 07 February 2020, 05:39:58 »
Bummer!  If they ever want to give it another go, I'm willing to do the heavy lifting for character creation with my spreadsheet.

And I'm more than willing to share my notes with anyone wanting to pick up your project...  :thumbsup: