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gwaedin

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AMS and MRM
« on: 01 November 2019, 17:29:24 »
Hi! I'm playing AS with my younger son (6½ years old).
Today I tried a scenario that I will play with my BT buddy next time.
As usual we only picked a couple of 'Mechs each, and he got a SD1-OC Sunder - the one packed with MRMs which can deliver a scary 7/7/0 damage.
One of my two 'Mechs was a BRZ-B3 Berserker, equipped with an AMS system.
According to AS rules, it would seem AMS is only effective against SRM and LRM. Since units with MRM don't get a distinctive special ability, I am assuming that within AS set of rules the AMS is not offering any kind of protection.
Which is rather odd, being in contrast with how BT works (AMS being equally effective against all Missile attacks).
Am I correct or is there anything I am missing?

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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #1 on: 01 November 2019, 18:57:13 »
You are correct.  AMS in Alpha Strike does not protect from MRMs, basic ATMs, or Artemis-equipped SRMs.

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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #2 on: 01 November 2019, 19:39:27 »
 On the other hand, the point of damage it does negate is a fair chunk of damage, even if you're facing something that in TW would just have an LRM-5 or two.
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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #3 on: 01 November 2019, 20:05:29 »
Oh sure, no doubt about that.  Amusing factoid.  It also reduces the damage the Wulfen H (pure *improved* Heavy Laser armament) does.

(had to add in the improved part to be accurate)

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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #4 on: 01 November 2019, 21:26:56 »
Do wait, how?
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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #5 on: 01 November 2019, 22:05:27 »
Do wait, how?

Because Improved Heavy Lasers are explosive, units mounting them do not gain the ENE tag.  AMS subtracts 1 damage from any unit without the ENE tag.  :)

EDIT:  As a corollary, the Wulfen H does not suffer 1/2 damage when shooting a target equipped with Reflective Armor for the same reason.

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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #6 on: 01 November 2019, 22:10:06 »
I thought it only subtracted from units with SRM, LRM, or IF?
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Re: AMS and MRM
« Reply #7 on: 01 November 2019, 22:13:44 »
I thought it only subtracted from units with SRM, LRM, or IF?

Whups.  My mistake.  The Wulfen H's immunity to Reflec armor is still true though.

 

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