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Author Topic: AS: Light IS, XL Clan Engines: Are They Missing One (1) Structure?  (Read 501 times)

Karack Blackstone

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Hello all, so after some recent attempts to play around in various mech building programs, mainly SSW, I've noticed a bit of an issue.

For example, the Kingfisher has seven (7) Structure.

In SSW, a 90 tonner with a Clan XL or IS Light Fusion Engine is at five (5) Structure. Swapping to an IS XL keeps this value the same.

Therefore, is the potentially correct value of any listed IS Light or Clan XL FE supposed to be +1 for where they are in reality?

All Clan XL Engine Mech's, the vast majority of which are the Clan Omni's, appear to be short one (1) S.

Thoughts please?

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Re: AS: Light IS, XL Clan Engines: Are They Missing One (1) Structure?
« Reply #1 on: 19 November 2019, 18:51:19 »
SSW uses old conversion rules for it's Converter to AS.  It's on the list to update, but until then, don't trust it.  Instead I suggest using the MUL as it is authoritative.

Karack Blackstone

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Re: AS: Light IS, XL Clan Engines: Are They Missing One (1) Structure?
« Reply #2 on: 19 November 2019, 18:54:36 »
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Card/1985?skill=4

4 Structure.

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Card/2038?skill=4

6 Structure, Marauder 3R
Not fitted with an IS XL.

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Card/2051?skill=4

4 Structure, Marauder 9W2

Shouldn't the Clan XL and IS Light be 5 Structure, instead?
« Last Edit: 19 November 2019, 19:05:37 by Karack Blackstone »

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Re: AS: Light IS, XL Clan Engines: Are They Missing One (1) Structure?
« Reply #3 on: 19 November 2019, 21:16:06 »
Short answer, no.

Longer answer,
90 ton IS XL engine is 4 Structure.
90 ton Clan XL engine is 5 Structure.
75 ton Clan XL engine is 4 Structure.
75 ton IS non-XL is 6 Structure.
75 ton IS XL engine is 4 Structure.
Source: AS Companion, p98.

Most times the IS XL engine structure is lower for the same tonnage than Clan XL.  75 tons is an oddball.  With such low values, there is not enough granularity to make all tonnages and Clan/IS XL engines have distinct values.
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Karack Blackstone

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Re: AS: Light IS, XL Clan Engines: Are They Missing One (1) Structure?
« Reply #4 on: 20 November 2019, 14:27:03 »
Still seems like an oversight.

A 5/8 TWolf or a 6/10 Dire Wolf seems about right.

The only question I'd have is whether or not the points value needs to be adjusted to account for the +1 Structure that may be getting paid for yet not included in the overall points calculation.

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Re: AS: Light IS, XL Clan Engines: Are They Missing One (1) Structure?
« Reply #5 on: 22 November 2019, 05:25:58 »
I believe the Kingfisher has a standard engine not an XL.

 

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