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Auberan

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Actual Physical Crowns?
« on: 29 May 2020, 13:26:27 »
I've been trying to do some research on this, but unfortunately I've never been able to completely recover all the Battletech paperbacks that I dumbly got rid of when I was a teenager.

Do any of the Successor Lords wear actual crowns? I suppose I'm thinking more in the lines of the Archon, or the First Prince, since I think it is a more European thing, and the Captain-General isn't technically a monarchy.

Though that does lead me to a second question, can anyone think of a reference to a Duke or other noble titled character wearing something like a circlet?

Even if these are only for formal court occasions, it's been something that has been niggling at me.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #1 on: 29 May 2020, 13:41:56 »
i don't ever remember hearing about crowns but no one went harder than janos who tattooed the emblem of his realm on his forehead.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #2 on: 29 May 2020, 15:25:18 »
i don't ever remember hearing about crowns but no one went harder than janos who tattooed the emblem of his realm on his forehead.

Which is one of the top ten things that a BattleTech character has done.

Wasn't there some business about Julian Davion being crowned? Probably in Shattered Fortress.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #3 on: 29 May 2020, 16:00:43 »
Picture from Handbook Major Periphery States shows the Magistrix wearing what could be interpreted as a crown.
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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #4 on: 29 May 2020, 16:09:09 »
... or catgirl ears.
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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #5 on: 29 May 2020, 16:21:29 »
Page 44 of Same Book - Looks to be a crown
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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #6 on: 29 May 2020, 16:45:41 »
... or catgirl ears.

This is canon now.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #7 on: 29 May 2020, 16:46:58 »
Wasn't there some business about Julian Davion being crowned? Probably in Shattered Fortress.

The phrase is used a few times with the FedSuns, but I'm not sure if it's literal or just figurative.

That is good to know about the Magistrix, I hadn't even thought of them, so I some evidence to soothe the niggle =)

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #8 on: 29 May 2020, 17:11:26 »
i would presume that like with the real world royalty today, there are crowns and regalia for official functions that call for it, but the royal family mostly just wear normal clothing for their day to day activities and events.

i would presume there are probably two crowns.. large elaborate things for the 'ritual' events (like recognizing one's heir, the assumption of the throne/coronations, etc), and then smaller more minimalist versions for formal events where a crown is required by tradition but trying to wear several pounds of expensive metal and gems on your head for hours would be to difficult to do.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #9 on: 30 May 2020, 01:27:10 »
I’m reminded of the great line from Warrior: Coupe, where Hanse is thinking to himself while he’s mounting up to take on what he believes to be a Death Commando raid on New Avalon:


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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #10 on: 30 May 2020, 01:39:07 »
In Assumption of Risk, Victor holds a simple platinum circlet and muses how Ryan Steiner would kill him to get that crown.

I seem to recall another scene where Katherine wore a circlet like that too, but I can't find it.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #11 on: 30 May 2020, 01:47:29 »
Kamea Arano is canonically depicted with what could be described as a crown.
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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #12 on: 30 May 2020, 23:26:37 »
In Assumption of Risk, Victor holds a simple platinum circlet and muses how Ryan Steiner would kill him to get that crown.

I seem to recall another scene where Katherine wore a circlet like that too, but I can't find it.

Wasn't it in the cinema scenes from Mechcommander 2?
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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #13 on: 30 May 2020, 23:36:31 »
I’m reminded of the great line from Warrior: Coupe, where Hanse is thinking to himself while he’s mounting up to take on what he believes to be a Death Commando raid on New Avalon:


I love that line/scene.
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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #14 on: 01 June 2020, 03:11:47 »
I’m reminded of the great line from Warrior: Coupe, where Hanse is thinking to himself while he’s mounting up to take on what he believes to be a Death Commando raid on New Avalon:

Made me think of these scenes from the web comic Girl Genius
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080303
http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080305

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #15 on: 01 June 2020, 10:02:59 »
 If the Captain-General did, it would be provincial regalia. I doubt a Coordinator would wear a crown either.

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Re: Actual Physical Crowns?
« Reply #16 on: 01 June 2020, 12:15:57 »
I’m reminded of the great line from Warrior: Coupe, where Hanse is thinking to himself while he’s mounting up to take on what he believes to be a Death Commando raid on New Avalon:

Not a crown scene, not a violence action sceee, but a scene I loved in that triology.

Morgan & Dan showing up at the Tharkad ball & Morgan having to pull out the letter again & Dan finally asking what it was.

I just love the line.  The impact of what that letter entailed.

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