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Technical Readout: Prototypes
« on: 02 July 2011, 10:30:44 »
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TOC/CREDITS
Credits (p. 3):
   Add the following names to the Playtester/Factchecker credits (in proper alphabetical order by last name):  Joel Bancroft-Connors, Blake Cetnar, Chris Marti, Andreas Rudolf, Mark Yingling
   Add the following additional line below the listed credits:
   "Catalyst Game Labs would also like to thank the following on-line personalities who helped catch a few last-minute mistakes: 00Dawg, DarkISI, Demos, Diplominator, Dread Moores, FedComGirl, Jal Phoenix, jymset, Kojak, mbear, Moonsword, Neufeld, Orin, Revanche, Snake Eyes, Youngblood."

INTRO
How to Use this Book (p. 5):
At the end of the paragraph that begins with Caveat, change: "Technology Upgrade: 3090 chapter (p. 304)." to 'Technology Upgrade: 3090 chapter (p. 204)."

BATTLE ARMOR
Hauberk Commando (p. 14):
Last paragraph under Capabilities, change: "Based on this experience, a field-expedient refit nicknamed the Hauberk II replaced the LRMs with dual Magshots taken from fallen Cavalier suits." to "Based on this experience, a field-expedient refit nicknamed the Hauberk II replaced the LRMs with dual Magshots taken from fallen Infiltrator II suits."

VEHICLES
Lexan Helo (p. 24):
Last paragraph under Capabilities, change: "The Lexan can provide targeting telemetry for indirectly-fired LRMs, but the feature is disabled by the factory and must be enabled through by a software bypass that voids the Lexan's warranty." to "The Lexan can provide targeting telemetry for indirectly-fired LRMs, but the feature is disabled at the factory and can only be enabled by a software bypass that voids the Lexan's warranty."
Also, in the Deployment paragraph, change: "Arc-Royal Province" to "Arc-Royal Theater".

Warrior S-9 Helicopter (p. 29):
In the Battle Value, change "668" to "688"

Cavalry Infiltrator (p. 30):
In the last paragraph under Capabilities, DELETE the following sentence: "The decision to expand the infantry bay from three tons to four greatly increased demand for the Cavalry as a transport and infiltration VTOL."

Scorpion Minesweeper (p. 33):
In the Notes, DELETE "Rumble Seat"

Pegasus (p. 38):
In the fourth paragraph under Capabilities, change: "These modern descendants of the original weapon deliver firepower..." to "These modern descendants of the original weapons deliver firepower..."

Phalanx (p. 44):
In the paragraph under Deployment, change: "Sales have been slow but steady from across the Inner Sphere—most infantry brigades can usually be found with at least a platoon attached—but they rarely found in armor units." to "Sales have been slow but steady from across the Inner Sphere—many infantry brigades can usually be found with at least one or two attached—but they are rarely found in armor units."

Fulcrum (Hybrid) (p. 48):
In the stat block, under Armament, change: "2 Poland Main Model C Magshot Gauss Rifles" to "3 Poland Main Model C Magshot Gauss Rifles"

Vedette V7 (p. 50):
Second paragraph under Capabilities, change: "Many detractors claim that much of this equipment could have been kept if it the bombast laser taken out instead of the autocannon" to "Many detractors claim that much of this equipment could have been kept if the bombast laser had been taken out instead of the autocannon"
Also, in the first paragraph under Deployment, change: "It basic setup, with better armor" to "Its basic setup, with better armor"

Heavy NLRM Carrier (p. 59):
In the Weapons and Ammo list, change "Ammo (NLRM) 48" to "Ammo (NLRM) 32" (Leave Tonnage listing as "4".)

Challenger Mk. XV (p. 61):
For the Technology Base, change "Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)" to "Technology Base: Inner Sphere"

Kalki (p. 64):
In the last paragraph under Overview, change: "Kallon proved unable to improve the Kalki's low land speed and internal ammunition difficulties, but did prove dramatically improve durability and reliability." to "Though Kallon was unable to address the Kalki's low land speed and internal ammunition difficulties, they did dramatically enhance its durability and reliability."

Sokar (p. 72):
In the second paragraph under Capabilities, change: "they cantake down all but the heaviest suit in seconds." to "they can take down all but the heaviest suit in seconds."


PROTOMECHS
Svartalfa (p. 90):
In the last paragraph under Capabilities, change: "A pilot of Elemental breeding is a possible with the Svartalfa, but it can be easily reconfigured for a snug fit for smaller pilots." to "A pilot of Elemental breeding could even operate the Svartalfa, though it is a far more comfortable fit for smaller pilots."


'MECHS
Spindrift (p. 98):
In the second paragraph under Overview, change: "The laser reflective armor proved particularly disappointing, as it repeatedly failed to stop short range torpedoes and fared worse against ballistic weaponry above water." To "The laser reflective armor proved particularly disappointing, as it repeatedly breached from simple collisions both underwater and on the surface."

Stiletto (p. 102):
In the second paragraph under Overview, change: "Its top speed was increased by over thirty kilometers per hour." to "Its top speed was increased by over twenty kilometers per hour."

Wolfhound (p. 105):
In the Notes, DELETE "Rumble Seat"

Legionnaire (p. 110):
In the first (ginormous!) paragraph under Capabilities, change the first two instances of "2F" to "2X". (The author is starting with a description of the experimental prototype.)
Also in this same paragraph, change the following text: "It was more susceptible to damage from ballistic and missile weapons, and simulations showed it would provide additional protection for the Legionnaire against the many PPC variants now found on Combine 'Mechs but it was usually quickly reduced by multiple MRM and LRM volleys. The computers clearly showed the Legionnaire could reasonably be expected to win against most opponents of similar weight boasting energy weapons, but could be quickly destroyed by a lighter 'Mech carrying MRMs or even rockets." to "Though it provided additional protection against the many PPC variants now found in the DCMS, it suffered greatly from blunt-force strikes, such as those delivered by sword-wielding opponents. The sims clearly showed the Legionnaire could reasonably be expected to survive against most opponents of similar weight boasting energy weapons, but could be easily defeated by even a lighter 'Mech carrying melee weapons."
Break the first paragraph under Capabilities after the words "our nightmare scenario."
And, in the first line under Deployment, change: "The Legionnaire 2F can" to "The original Legionnaire 2D can"
Finally, I break the Deployment paragraph into two, and starting the second with the sentence "The original variant, the Beagle probe-enhanced 1X"

Legionnaire (p. 111):
In the Notes, DELETE "Rumble Seat"

Ti T'sang DDC (p. 121):
In the Notes, DELETE "Rumble Seat"

Deep Lord MilitiaMech (p. 124):
In the first paragraph under Capabilities, change: "The treads of the Dig Lord could be removed and replaced with legs, and the drilling and filtering gear could be replaced by weapons and armor." to "The WorkMech's drilling and rock-cutting equipment could be swapped for proper weapons, complete with a fire control systems ready to use them."

Deep Lord MilitiaMech (p. 125):
In the Notes, DELETE "No Ejection System"

Barghest (p. 127):
In the Notes, change "EM Interference" to "EM Interference (ER Medium Laser)" and DELETE "Rumble Seat"

Grasshopper (p. 129):
In the Notes, DELETE "Rumble Seat"

Thunder (p. 130):
In the third paragraph under Capabilities, change: "Originally used by StarCorps for their WHM-8D, with production switching" to "Originally used by StarCorps for the WHM-4L line, with production switching"
Also, in the paragraph under Variants, change: "Ceres Metals continues to produce the stealth-armored THR2L at Capella" to "Ceres Metals continues to produce the stealth-armored THR-2L at Capella"

Pendragon (p. 139):
In the Weapons and Ammo list, change both instances of: "ELRM 15" to "Extended LRM 15" (Leave Ammo listings as "(ELRM)", however.)

Ursus 3 (p. 146):
In the second paragraph under Capabilities, change: "variety of ammunitions, including flechette rounds against people" to "variety of munitions, including Inner Sphere-made flechette rounds against people"

Thunderbolt IIC (p. 150):
In the second paragraph under Capabilities, change: "Three common extended-range medium lasers are reminiscent of the Star League Thunderbolt, as is the round fifteen-tube missile launcher on the shoulder."  to "Three common extended-range medium lasers are reminiscent of the Star League Thunderbolt, as is the fifteen-tube missile launcher on the shoulder."


AEROSPACE
Transit (p. 174):
In the second paragraph under Overview, change: "Within the month, the Confederation had sold all of the facilities Ceres Metals Industries" to "Within the month, the Confederation had sold all of Mujika's on-planet facilities to Ceres Metals Industries"

TiG-40 Foxhound (p. 182):
In the upper-left corner icon, change: "DropShip" to "Small Craft"

Vengeance DC (p. 190):
In the third paragraph of the left column, change: "starting with the CNS Fuuzi and the MCS Emerald Queen." to "starting with the CCS Fuuzi and the MCS Emerald Queen."


TECH ADVANCES: 3090
Distracting Quirk (p. 205):
In the Available to line, add: "Battle Armor, " before 'Mech

Jettison-Capable Weapon Quirk (p. 205):
In the first line of the second column, change: "A jettisoned weapon's location should be racked in campaign play" to "A jettisoned weapon's location should be tracked in campaign play"

Jihad Technology Advancement Table (p. 206):
Insert the following data before the Hardened Armor line:
   "Ferro-Lamellor   Exp   3070   Adv   3084   Clan"
In the Previous Class column for the Mace, change: "Exp" to "Adv"
« Last Edit: 17 September 2012, 23:50:21 by Xotl »
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #1 on: 02 July 2011, 11:15:48 »
PDF:
Vedette V7 (p50/52 PDF)
     Error: "...could have been kept if it the bombast laser..."
     Corr: "...could have been kept if it had been the bombast laser..."

Kalki (p64/66 PDF)
     Error: "...but did prove dramatically improve..."
     Corr: "...but did prove dramatically improve..."

Jettison-Capable Weapon (p205/207 PDF)
     Error: "...location should be racked in campaigns..."
     Corr: "...location should be tracked in campaigns..."

Hope that helps.

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« Last Edit: 02 July 2011, 14:17:20 by Revanche »

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #2 on: 02 July 2011, 11:41:39 »
PDF:

Lexan Helo (pg 24/26)

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The Lexan can provide targeting telemetry for indirectly-
fired LRMs, but the feature is disabled by the factory
and must be enabled through by a software bypass that
voids the Lexan’s warranty.

Bolded section doesn't quite make sense.

Error: "through by a..."
Suggestion: Delete either "through" or "by"

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #3 on: 02 July 2011, 14:21:03 »
PDF, page 206:
For the Mace, the previous class is listed as experimental, however, according to TO page 290 it should be advanced.

Suggested fix:
Change the "Exp" in row "Mace", column "Previous Class" to "Adv".

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #4 on: 02 July 2011, 14:30:31 »
Page 5, How to use this technical readout

Change:  "consult the Technology Upgrade: 3090 chapter (see p. 304)"
to:  "consult the Technology Upgrade: 3090 chapter (see p. 204)"
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #5 on: 02 July 2011, 14:38:22 »
Page 90, column 2 paragraph 3:

Change:

"A pilot of Elemental breeding is a possible with the Svartalfa,"

to:

"A pilot of Elemental breeding is a possibility with the Svartalfa,"

or:

"A pilot of Elemental breeding is possible with the Svartalfa,"

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #6 on: 02 July 2011, 15:29:32 »
PDF, Page 50
Vedette V7

Deployment, 2nd sentence: "It basic..."  That should be "Its basic..."

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #7 on: 02 July 2011, 15:36:39 »
Page 14, first paragraph, second to last sentence:

"Based on this experience, a field-expedient refit—nicknamed the Hauberk II—replaced the LRMs with dual Magshots taken from fallen Cavalier suits."

There are no variants of the Cavalier which use the Magshot. I presume the author of this entry was in fact thinking of the Infiltrator Mk. II, or "Puma".

Suggested correction: "taken from fallen Infiltrator Mk IIs" -or-  "taken from fallen "Puma" suits"
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #8 on: 02 July 2011, 17:17:40 »
Not sure how to report this since I'm not sure which is in error.  There is a conflict with how the Extended LRMs are listed in various unit stat blocks.  The Apollo and Pandarus list that as "Extended LRM 15", while the Pendragon and Claymore list the shorter "ELRM 15".  Most units mounting them say "Extended LRM", so perhaps that's correct.

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #9 on: 02 July 2011, 18:32:00 »
Page 48, stat brick on the left for the Fulcrum (Hybrid):

2 Poland Main Model C Magshot Gauss Rifles

Should be 3.
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #10 on: 02 July 2011, 19:28:27 »
PDF, Page 59
Heavy NLRM Carrier

Ammo should be 32 rounds based on my math, not 48.  Tonnage is correct.

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #11 on: 02 July 2011, 22:28:28 »
Thunderbolt IIC, page 150, Column 2 paragraph 2:

"Three common extended range medium lasers are reminiscent of the Star League
Thunderbolt, as is the round fifteen-tube missile launcher on the shoulder."




Maybe just delete that line?

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #12 on: 02 July 2011, 22:31:06 »
TIG-40 Foxhound (PDF, pg. 182/184)

This is a Small Craft, but the unit identification box in the upper left shows "DropShip."

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #13 on: 02 July 2011, 23:18:41 »
Thunderbolt IIC, page 150, Column 2 paragraph 2:

"Three common extended range medium lasers are reminiscent of the Star League
Thunderbolt, as is the round fifteen-tube missile launcher on the shoulder."




Maybe just delete that line?

Do not delete the line, just remove the word "round".
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #14 on: 03 July 2011, 03:50:22 »
p. 206, Jihad Technology Advancement Table

Mace - change Previous Class from "Exp" to "Adv"


edit:Oops, missed Neufeld posting this up, sorry.
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #15 on: 03 July 2011, 12:45:19 »
p. 30, Cavalry Infiltrator / Capabilities

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The decision to expand the infantry bay from three tons to four greatly increased demand for the Cavalry as a transport and infiltration VTOL
Every Cavalry capable of transporting infantry had a 4 tons bay already. There is no variant with 3 trons.

Suggested ciorrection: drop expansion and state only an increasing demand for the Cavalry.
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #16 on: 03 July 2011, 13:01:07 »
PDF, Page 56
Rommel Howitzer, Capabilities

"Three tons of ammunition is a ton less than the prototype, but still plentiful, though it doesn’t allow the production model to take advantage of the wide selection of ammunition that the Long Tom is capable of delivering."  The unit is armed with a Long Tom Cannon, meaning that the gun can't fire anything other than standard artillery cannon rounds.

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #17 on: 03 July 2011, 13:57:53 »
PDF, p. 102 / Stiletto

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Its top speed was increased by over thirty kilometers per hour.

Hardly. Former production models had 8/12, the experimental mech 7/11 (14). So the speed decreased actually.

Suggestion: " Its top speed was decreased by over ten kilometers per hour." (or something similar)


Errata Coordinator: this is in reference to the XTR prototype, not the model in this TRO.  Even so, it is in error, and should read "Its top speed was increased by over twenty kilometers per hour."
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #18 on: 03 July 2011, 16:40:45 »
Not sure how to report this since I'm not sure which is in error.  There is a conflict with how the Extended LRMs are listed in various unit stat blocks.  The Apollo and Pandarus list that as "Extended LRM 15", while the Pendragon and Claymore list the shorter "ELRM 15".  Most units mounting them say "Extended LRM", so perhaps that's correct.

They should be listed as 'Extended LRM', though ELRM is still correct.

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #19 on: 04 July 2011, 02:06:28 »
Not sure if this counts - Incubus II jump is listed as 8* - it wasn't immediately clear whether this figure included the partial wing or not without checking the JJ allocation. Perhaps write as 8(10*)

As noted in the TRO Prototypes thread about the LEGIONNAIRE fluff "It was more susceptible to damage from ballistic and missile weapons" whereas the rule in TacOps (p 281) only say "damage from falls, physical attacks, and moving through building walls is doubled against locations protected by it." (that is, nothing about ballistic and missile weapon damage being increased against this armor type)

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #20 on: 04 July 2011, 02:07:55 »
PDF, p. 130 Thunder THR-C4 / Capabilities

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To decrease the unit’s cost, Ceres Metals used the smaller VOX 280 extralight engine. Originally used by StarCorps for their WHM-8D, with production switching to the slower WHM-5L model Ceres Metals was able to secure the engines at reduced cost.

The Warhammer WHM-8D don't use a 280 XL, but a 280 SFE. The WHM-4L on the other hand features this engine.
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #21 on: 04 July 2011, 03:31:20 »
Challenger Mk. XV, p. 61
Remove "(Advanced)" from Technology Base - all previously Advanced/Experimental items on this unit are TL by 3090's Tech Advances (pp. 204f).
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #22 on: 04 July 2011, 04:28:47 »
pg 146, Ursus III fluff:

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...can use a variety of ammunitions, including flechette rounds against people or armor-piercing rounds against buildings.

The only special ammo available to the Clans are Flak and Tracer.

Check out TW 140-142 and TO 352-353.

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #23 on: 04 July 2011, 06:27:21 »
Gray Death Strike, p. 13 & Positive Quirk: Distracting, p. 205

One or the other is in error: GDS lists Distracting quirk, yet Distracting quirk does not list BA as eligible units.


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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #24 on: 04 July 2011, 09:44:54 »
TRO: Prototypes, pdf, page 24:
Lexan Surveillance Helo: Deployment:
Arc-Royal Province is mentioned: "It is most frequently found in the Timbuktu Theater, Melissia Theater, Coventry Province and Arc-Royal Province."    Now, last I checked Arc-Royal was a Theater capital, not a province capital, with Arc-Royal being a part of Donegal Province (this was true at least on the Field Report map). While things might have changed in 3090, it looks like a mistake, so check it.



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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #25 on: 04 July 2011, 11:36:23 »
BV typo.

Page 29, Warrior S-9 Stealh Helicopter
Change BV to 688
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #26 on: 04 July 2011, 12:36:11 »
PDF, p.81 / Aithon vs. p. 206 / JIHAD TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENT TABLE

The Aithon is marked as Clan (Advanced) despite of mounting Lamellor armor, which is experimental acc. to TacOps.
On the other hand, the Jihad Technology Advancements Table at p. 206 do not mention lamellor armor at all.

So either the Aithon should be marked as (experimental) or Lamellor Armor had to be included in the table at p. 206 as *Advanced*
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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #27 on: 04 July 2011, 22:45:46 »
p. 190 Vengeance-DC PWS

Since then, Earthwerks has alternated launching vessels of the class for the Capellan and Magistracy navies, starting with the CNS Fuuzi and the MCS Emerald Queen.

CNS Fuuzi should be CCS Fuuzi.

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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #28 on: 05 July 2011, 04:39:02 »
TRO:Prototypes, pdf, page 98:
Spindrift, Overview:
The sentence "The laser reflective armor proved particularly disappointing, as it repeatedly failed to stop short range torpedoes and fared
worse against ballistic weaponry above water." is incorrect. Laser reflective works as normal armor against missiles and ballistic weapons, see Tactical Operations page 281.

Suggestion:
Remove the sentence, or rewrite it to something like this:
"The laser reflective armor proved particularly disappointing, as it repeatedly failed to stop damage from collisions with underwater rocks from flooding the side torsos."
(3 damage doubled is 6 damage which will strip the side torsos of the original prototype of its 6 points of reflective armor.)


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Re: Technical Readout: Prototypes
« Reply #29 on: 05 July 2011, 07:40:48 »
p. 46, Bandit Mk II page.

Capabilities section, first paragraph, third sentence:
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In addition, though it weapon system...

Should have a possessive it's  its..

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In addition, though its weapon system...