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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #510 on: 06 December 2023, 18:21:24 »
In North Africa the Brits wanted the Germans to think they had fewer tanks...



While the Germans wanted the Brits to think they had more!


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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #511 on: 06 December 2023, 19:32:34 »
Which just goes to show that nobody ever has the right amount of tanks!
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #512 on: 06 December 2023, 23:53:38 »
I thank my associates for trying to clarify my statement.
YES.  the USMC's Armor formations are gone, their personnel either repurposed, retired or transferred to the Army.
But the USMC M1s are still in service.  They have DISTINCTIVE serial numbers and have stamped EGAs in various locations.

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #513 on: 09 December 2023, 11:41:22 »
So, Fury if it were WWI. And British:  https://youtu.be/h54oFH0paZU
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #514 on: 09 December 2023, 19:51:23 »
Oh, the humanity! ;D

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #515 on: 10 December 2023, 04:06:19 »
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #516 on: 10 December 2023, 13:11:24 »


Oops... he got a little bit cocky, eh?

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #517 on: 10 December 2023, 13:48:50 »
Hey, it's the 15; most Dangerous Road in America TM.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth,                                And through villages of ether
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.                   Oh, my crucifixion comes
When I needed something good.                                         One day we'll reveal the truth,                    Will you sing my hallelujah?
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.      That one will die before he gets there.       Will you tell me when it's done?
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #518 on: 10 December 2023, 14:22:23 »
That reminds me of video from Syrian Civil War, when rebels were trying to tow a captured BMP-1 with tractors and people were swarming the BMP. Somebody must have pulled the trigger on the main gun and while the round didn't detonate at such short distance, it still took off the head of the driver of one of the tractors. 
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #519 on: 10 December 2023, 22:35:41 »
Friendly fire does have the right of way, after all. :rolleyes:

Say, in other parts of the world, sometimes you have to kill yourself to save yourself (to mis-paraphrase a statement of a US Army officer from a different war about a completely different scenario):





In case you don't feel like playing the guessing game, the first is indeed a GAZ-66 light/medium truck covered in Kontakt-5 ERA, while the second is a UAZ-452 van. Including the windshield.
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But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.                   Oh, my crucifixion comes
When I needed something good.                                         One day we'll reveal the truth,                    Will you sing my hallelujah?
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.      That one will die before he gets there.       Will you tell me when it's done?
But I'd think of something better if I could
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #520 on: 10 December 2023, 22:42:04 »
It seems like reactive armor bricks would be of limited use on a truck that's presumably not particularly heavily armored?
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #521 on: 10 December 2023, 23:24:20 »
The explosion of the ERA would do more damage to the truck than the incoming round.

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #522 on: 11 December 2023, 01:07:44 »
The explosion of the ERA would do more damage to the truck than the incoming round.

Shows that idiots are endemic everywhere...

It's only an issue if the 'ERA' is actually ERA and not say, bricks of heroin.

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #523 on: 11 December 2023, 01:09:25 »
ERA goblins cannot be stopped.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #524 on: 11 December 2023, 22:38:47 »
How many of you still have your fruit salad when you finished your tours?

Or do you have more to add in your current tour?

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #525 on: 20 December 2023, 21:33:33 »

say hello to 1K17 Compression Russia's Laser Tank
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #526 on: 20 December 2023, 21:44:56 »

say hello to 1K17 Compression Russia's Laser Tank

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« Reply #527 on: 20 December 2023, 22:05:07 »
Like this lovely gem:

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How did we not get these in Red Alert?

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #528 on: 20 December 2023, 22:56:30 »
Didn't the Soviets also experiment with a tank-mounted sonic cannon for shooting down bombers?
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #529 on: 21 December 2023, 00:42:37 »
Didn't the Soviets also experiment with a tank-mounted sonic cannon for shooting down bombers?
honestly, it would not surprise me..  there were a lots of soviet ideas that 40K looked at and went YES
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« Reply #530 on: 21 December 2023, 02:10:39 »
I remember reading something about the Soviets experimenting with a sonic cannon as an anti-aircraft weapon... and canceling the project when they realized that it had an effective range of about 3 feet.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #531 on: 21 December 2023, 03:44:06 »
Regarding the ERA van thing, some posters I follow mention that it seems to be a running gag among Russian army units in Ukraine: to see what unit builds the most preposterous van.

Here is another example. It is supposed to be "an antidrone coverage test" to pass the raised eyeborws of the higher ups.

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #532 on: 21 December 2023, 05:46:43 »
That reminds of Libyan sheepskin tank

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #533 on: 21 December 2023, 14:21:26 »
Regarding the ERA van thing, some posters I follow mention that it seems to be a running gag among Russian army units in Ukraine: to see what unit builds the most preposterous van.

Here is another example. It is supposed to be "an antidrone coverage test" to pass the raised eyeborws of the higher ups.

The theory behind Russia’s shaggy trucks is that the fur or grasses disperse their heat signatures at night, which is when Russia is moving logistics these days.  This is suppossed to make it harder for Ukrainian drones, especially FPVs, to spot and target the trucks with their IR cameras/sensors.  But the trucks’ windscreens have to be left clear so drivers can see where they’re going.  This may cause the windows to stick out even more against the IR background and help guide FPV operators fly their drone warheads right into the trucks’ cabins.  (“In Russia, camouflage exposes you!”)

I heard this from a former tank operator who reports daily for the London Telegraph’s podcast on the war.  I assume the same nighttime/IR logic applies to the sheepskin tank — otherwise this type of camo will make these vehicles stick out even more in daytime — but someone closer to that case may know better.

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #534 on: 21 December 2023, 19:35:23 »
I don't know... compare the color of the sheepskins to the terrain behind that tank and the paint color... ;)

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #535 on: 21 December 2023, 19:52:54 »
I don't know... compare the color of the sheepskins to the terrain behind that tank and the paint color... ;)

I mean, the reality is that no matter what colour something starts out as, it's going to end up the colour of either mud or dust or both in short order.

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #536 on: 21 December 2023, 19:57:59 »
The front fenders get there, but not so much the rest... ;)

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #537 on: 21 December 2023, 23:24:31 »
I feel as though they're risking some issues with the engine's ventilation.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #538 on: 22 December 2023, 01:16:48 »
And cooling, which would explain why tank broke down and was captured.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles VI: Eye of the Tiger
« Reply #539 on: 25 December 2023, 15:13:01 »
Apropos of nothing, a B1 Centauro.  I'm really surprised with how low the turret is on these, it makes it look very flat by comparison to other IFVs turrets.
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