GenCon 2023 Diorama Discussion

[Fire Scorpion IIC]

Didn't expect to see Coyotl making a big comeback

Old timer still has gas in the tank

[Colt Ward]

More pics from the Book of Faces.. (CamoSpecs' page)

https://www.facebook.com/camospecs/posts/pfbid02E6D2TxBiWLhGTBgq5EUXf5g1ycXsTNZSziifXtmqmoUejGzrcdikhxZqVWod5RXXl

Does that Dire Wolf have Aztec-style decoration on the upper torso ?

Yes, the Smoke Jaguar star was painted by Savage Coyote and he showed some of it off.  Some of them will show zoomed in parts of pictures as a tease when they have painted for a Force pack or the diorama.  I guessed his Cauldron Born & Raven tease a month ago when he showed them.  He posted a star photo I think they took at GenCon before they started placing.  Dire Wolf, Cauldron Born, Coyotl, Viper, Mist Lynx . . . Viper is the only one hard to see in the pics.

I had forgotten the Kraken was in the picture, but it is interesting that shows as a Raven ride rather than a Falcon.  TBH the Falcons' camo pattern is a bit dull, olive drab with some yellow trim- have to hunt for their contribution, but I saw a Kit Fox with the Amorak, a Executioner, Fire Moth, and Griffin IIC?

Also interesting is two different Wolf forces- you have the tiger stripes of Gamma, but the Ares is a charcoal along with a Hammerhead, the Grendel, the Timber Wolf blowing a arm/missile pod free . . . and maybe the 4 weapon Lament?  I THINK you can see a Wolf decal on the right shoulder pauldron.  The only reason I am not sure is the grayish Marauder in the midst of the Capellan troops, but they are two different colors.  The Lament and the Artic Cheetah that are with 3 Jagas and what looks like another tiger stripe are pushing in from that edge.

[Church14]

The ares presence feels like they added the last bit for a Box Art army.

I’d expect Alaric to reform the few RAF volunteers into some totally-not-solamha clusters and station them on Terra. Feels weird that they’d be used on offense.

[Colt Ward]

Deploying questionable troops away from their home territory is a tried and true method of integration . . . or at least attrition.  The Wolf Empire already did this, placing League raised freebirth clusters on the Lyran border and Lyran raised freebirth clusters on the League border; harnessing the already built in animosity to overcome any lingering feelings about the new overlords.

[tassa_kay]

Feels weird that they’d be used on offense.

"In chess, the pawns go first." - Magneto

[Colt Ward]

"In chess, the pawns go first." - Magneto

Huh, I thought there was a clap emoji . . . but *golf clap* bravo . . . excellent X-Men reference.

[tassa_kay]

Just seeing all of these different Clans together on one table makes me happy. Especially the Ravens and the Jaguars. And seeing them fighting the Cappies, my favorite of the Houses, is just icing on the cake. I think this might be my favorite diorama since the WoR one.

[Colt Ward]

I was actually surprised the Ravens did not have a Carrion Crow on the table.  Jags getting a Coyotl was a good nod to the Proliferation Cycle box, wonder if there is perhaps a Firebee among the Cappies.

[Death_from_above]

snip - I was actually surprised the Ravens did not have a Carrion Crow on the table. - snip

They do (well, did..)

[tassa_kay]

What unit are the Ravens from? I don't recognize the paint scheme.

[Death_from_above]

Not sure, but there's gray and teal in there, so I'm guessing Beta Galaxy ?

CamoSpecs :

uses a color scheme of teal and dark olive gray with yellow and light gray highlights.

It's better visible on the jumping War Crow (2nd pic in reply 17).

[Decoy]

Didn't expect to see Coyotl making a big comeback

Old timer still has gas in the tank

Yeah. The Sea Foxes are selling them to anyone who will buy.

[Colt Ward]

The Coyotl is a pretty good med starter Omni.  Going 7/11 with some decent pod-space and IIRC simpler upkeep.

[Lorcan Nagle]

What's up with the guy in the back here, is it a specific Raptor II variant or a custom using the Raptor II's body?

[Geg]

Didn't the Highlanders find the Falcons (and not the Cappies) on Caph in the December 3152.   Same month as we see them on New Earth?

[Death_from_above]

Engages squint-fu.. IMO that's a -5X variant of the Raptor II.

Looks like a Black Lanner right arm and Cougar left arm ?

[Colt Ward]

Had not seen that side, but . . . ooo, those Hetzers

[Lorcan Nagle]

I love the new Hetzers, they're little doom buggies.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Huh, I thought there was a clap emoji . . . but *golf clap* bravo . . . excellent X-Men reference.

There used to be.  The forum lost a bunch of emojis in the update a couple weeks ago.

[Sjhernan3060]

No, I think it is a legit avenue of inquiry . . . I mean we could have Ravens observing how the ilClan proposes to integrate forces from different Clans into one operational chain of command with the Wolves, Falcons, and Jaguars doing a demo.

Oh that is interesting… is the new ilkhan/first lord imbued with any additional powers or anything to enforce his or her will over the other clans?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whoa whoa whoa, they've unleashed the Jaguars? And their DropShip(s) didn't get shot down with no survivors before the battle? I'm hoping that means they actually stick around!

[Colt Ward]

ilKhan Alaric is bringing them back, though their restoration to full status will require service.  They had Trials of Bloodright at the end of Hour . . . but Jaguar Bloodnames were already active, the RecGuides talked about a Warden Wolf warrior who joined the Crusaders fighting a Trial of Propagation on Solaris to activate another dormant Weaver Blood Heritage.

[Sjhernan3060]

ilKhan Alaric is bringing them back, though their restoration to full status will require service.  They had Trials of Bloodright at the end of Hour . . . but Jaguar Bloodnames were already active, the RecGuides talked about a Warden Wolf warrior who joined the Crusaders fighting a Trial of Propagation on Solaris to activate another dormant Weaver Blood Heritage.

Are they considered a new clan with the smoke jag name or a direct continuation of the OG jags?

[Lorcan Nagle]

Are they considered a new clan with the smoke jag name or a direct continuation of the OG jags?

The core of the new Smoke Jaguars are part of the Fidelis, a Republic special forces unit made up of descendants of the Smoke Jaguars who escaped the Clan Homeworlds.  The novels Surrender Your Dreams and Forever Faithful have the details.

[Colt Ward]

The core of the new Smoke Jaguars are part of the Fidelis, a Republic special forces unit made up of descendants of the Smoke Jaguars who escaped the Clan Homeworlds.  The novels Surrender Your Dreams and Forever Faithful have the details.

As I said in another thread, it will be interesting to see what happens with the Jaguar Bloodhouses since the Wardens were using Weaver, Moon, and whatever else were in the 6th Jaguar Dragoons & other Op Bulldog bondsmen.  Especially since Paul Moon's . . . grand-daughter? . . . wins a Moon Bloodname and becomes Khan.  For the Jaguar restoration they will need the Warden Wolves' Jaguar Bloodhouses since they had more Bloodnamed and trueborns than Paul Moon escaped with that survived the pursuing Scorpions.

We will also see what happens since the NeoJags will not have had access to their genetic repository afaik.  Will they be able to take the legacies for shared names the Council of Six set up?

[tassa_kay]

Hopefully TPTB actually dive into all of that stuff and don't just gloss over it. We haven't really gotten that level of detail and attention with the Clans' internal workings since the FASA days, with the exception of the Wars of Reaving (I was pleasantly surprised to see that book take the time to sort out the Bloodname issues resulting from that conflict).

[Sjhernan3060]

As I said in another thread, it will be interesting to see what happens with the Jaguar Bloodhouses since the Wardens were using Weaver, Moon, and whatever else were in the 6th Jaguar Dragoons & other Op Bulldog bondsmen.  Especially since Paul Moon's . . . grand-daughter? . . . wins a Moon Bloodname and becomes Khan.  For the Jaguar restoration they will need the Warden Wolves' Jaguar Bloodhouses since they had more Bloodnamed and trueborns than Paul Moon escaped with that survived the pursuing Scorpions.

We will also see what happens since the NeoJags will not have had access to their genetic repository afaik.  Will they be able to take the legacies for shared names the Council of Six set up?

With the return of the jags is there a dedicated jag thread here?

[tassa_kay]

With the return of the jags is there a dedicated jag thread here?

I just made one for us!

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,82260.0.html

[Sjhernan3060]

I just made one for us!

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,82260.0.html

Thank you sir!

[Blkbr2020]

Just to clarify the Facebook post says the battle is on New Home, but earlier someone said New Earth.........what is the correct world?

https://www.facebook.com/camospecs/posts/pfbid02E6D2TxBiWLhGTBgq5EUXf5g1ycXsTNZSziifXtmqmoUejGzrcdikhxZqVWod5RXXl