Author Topic: Aviation Pictures: A-Seven-th Thread--CorsAirin' Through Time and Airspace (Read 40022 times)

Daryk · « **Reply #330 on:** 17 November 2023, 17:19:40 »

I never would have thought they'd try this: https://www.cnn.com/travel/boeing-787-dreamliner-lands-antarctica/index.html

nerd · « **Reply #331 on:** 17 November 2023, 18:58:32 »

What's most interesting to me on that is the landing gear. Commercial landing gear isn't as rugged as military, like the C-17 and C-14, for operations like the ice runway.

Daryk · « **Reply #332 on:** 17 November 2023, 19:00:06 »

They got there from Capetown and back on a single tank of gas, though... I guess that made the risk worth it...

Daryk · « **Reply #333 on:** 17 November 2023, 19:04:02 »

Also they were nowhere near a full load. 12 tons of cargo is about a fifth of the max load of a 787, and I can't imagine the low number of passengers added that much more. Plus, they were landing (and taking off) with only a half tank of gas...

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #334 on:** 17 November 2023, 19:31:14 »

Quote from: Daryk on 17 November 2023, 19:04:02

Also they were nowhere near a full load. 12 tons of cargo is about a fifth of the max load of a 787, and I can't imagine the low number of passengers added that much more. Plus, they were landing (and taking off) with only a half tank of gas...

honestly i suspect they'll never try to fly that route with a full load.. the lighter the load, the less gas it'll need to make the trip.

Daryk · « **Reply #335 on:** 17 November 2023, 20:00:43 »

Good point!

I am Belch II · « **Reply #336 on:** 17 November 2023, 23:29:44 »

It's a little over 2600 miles from Cape Town to Troll Station. Loaded with payload a 787-9 can fly 9000 miles as some of the longest scheduled flights. 12 tons of cargo, and 45 passengers is a pretty easy flight. A couple of years ago a Airbus 340 did the same flight.

The longest scheduled flight of a 787 is Perth, Australia to London UK.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA9/history/20231117/1130Z/YPPH/EGLL

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #337 on:** 17 November 2023, 23:51:49 »

So here's a mini-poll. Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jets, do you prefer the rounded French nose cone or the pointy German one?

French:

German:

Personally I'm more fond of the pointy nose, it just looks faster - even if it's a subsonic aircraft.

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #338 on:** 18 November 2023, 00:58:21 »

I think the rounded nose fits the rest of the aircraft a little better.

chanman · « **Reply #339 on:** 18 November 2023, 03:44:49 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 November 2023, 23:51:49

So here's a mini-poll. Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jets, do you prefer the rounded French nose cone or the pointy German one?

French:

German:

Personally I'm more fond of the pointy nose, it just looks faster - even if it's a subsonic aircraft.

Pointy nose only with the splinter camo. Also, I made a typo in the other thread. Obviously Alpha Jets would be DEFA and not ADEN cannon. Same difference! Also, they seem to be popular commercial aggressor aircraft, flying with both Top Aces and Qinetiq

Daryk · « **Reply #340 on:** 18 November 2023, 06:27:59 »

It depends on what's behind the nose cone to me.

Failure16 · « **Reply #341 on:** 18 November 2023, 10:27:24 »

My first reaction was the rounded nose, but as I looked at the images longer, the pointed nose is etching away at me.

Really, I am with Daryk insofar as the functionality wins out for me on this one. I believe the German aircraft had more utility, especially at the outset. According this website:

"Although the Alpha Jet came in different variants, here is a tip on recognizing the two main types of this successful fighter jet. Alpha Jets with a rounded nose were used for training purposes. Indeed, a round nose delivers enhanced stability during the flight stage, an advantageous benefit for training pilots. Conversely, a sharp nose is the distinguishing feature of the attack version of this aircraft."

In the meantime, have an Alpha Jet with delusions of being a Big Cat:

And this...this is a beautiful aircraft. I shall be stealing this scheme.

rebs · « **Reply #342 on:** 18 November 2023, 19:43:58 »

Just thought I would share.

Failure16 · « **Reply #343 on:** 18 November 2023, 21:25:34 »

That's a pretty good reason.

And it's always the most expensive plate they break, too.

rebs · « **Reply #344 on:** 18 November 2023, 21:27:55 »

Quote from: Failure16 on 18 November 2023, 21:25:34

That's a pretty good reason.

And it's always the most expensive plate they break, too.

And the plastic cup doesn't do it for them, only the glass ones will work, lol

Edit: Unless you were enjoying what was in the plastic cup, then all bets are off. THEY KNOW!

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #345 on:** 19 November 2023, 20:10:22 »

Quote from: Daryk on 13 November 2023, 21:11:34

Some of us (at least) are working to bring OPSEC back as more than a suggestion...

Good Luck... DC leadership doesn't care about.. my household can tell you of my rant on Abbottabad raid and then fact they said who did it before they got back stateside. And the Books and Movie afterward...

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #346 on:** 19 November 2023, 20:16:22 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 November 2023, 23:51:49

So here's a mini-poll. Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jets, do you prefer the rounded French nose cone or the pointy German one?

Pointy Nose

Elmoth · « **Reply #347 on:** 20 November 2023, 07:23:41 »

Rounded for me. If we only talk aesthetics.

glitterboy2098 · « **Reply #348 on:** 20 November 2023, 08:48:39 »

i have to say i think the rounded looks better, but i'm wondering what the difference is beyond appearance? does the military version have additional sensors in the nose or something, or was it just a visual recognition feature?

Failure16 · « **Reply #349 on:** 20 November 2023, 09:10:24 »

The German "pointed nose" has better/more well-defined ground attack abilities. Never a mention that the French "rounded nose" has an edge in A2A, that I have found.

chanman · « **Reply #350 on:** 20 November 2023, 13:30:58 »

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/78hqknKq8P4

Kitbash of an X-29 with F-20 kit parts in a 1980s F-16 paint job. He's got multiple longer videos about the process including all the ways an F-29 wouldn't actually be feasible

Still though, It really brings those Stingray ASF vibes, no?

rebs · « **Reply #351 on:** 26 November 2023, 03:23:31 »

Here's an interesting short read about when the Harrier II's were retired and sold to the USMC to be used as spare parts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-the-legendary-harrier-ii-jet-was-retired-by-the-raf/ar-AA1kvH1a?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6118401f49e848e489acd32cf8ffa6a8&ei=43

Daryk · « **Reply #352 on:** 26 November 2023, 06:04:32 »

That was a remarkably low price!

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #353 on:** 26 November 2023, 18:54:35 »

Only 2.4 million apiece, that's pretty damn cheap for a modern fighter yeah.

Cannonshop · « **Reply #354 on:** 26 November 2023, 22:52:21 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 November 2023, 18:54:35

Only 2.4 million apiece, that's pretty damn cheap for a modern fighter yeah.

cheap enough Pepsi could finally give that kid his fighter plane.

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #355 on:** 27 November 2023, 19:35:43 »

I stumbled over this, and thought I should share

Daryk · « **Reply #356 on:** 27 November 2023, 20:06:48 »

Spooky? That doesn't look like a C-130, though... ???

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #357 on:** 27 November 2023, 20:23:31 »

Quote from: Daryk on 27 November 2023, 20:06:48

Spooky? That doesn't look like a C-130, though... ???

Spooky the AC47 model.. also know as Puff, the Magic Dragon in Vietnam.

Daryk · « **Reply #358 on:** 27 November 2023, 20:25:15 »

Ah, I didn't realize Puff had the same technical call sign as the later version!

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #359 on:** 27 November 2023, 20:34:48 »

Gunship family
AC47Spooky (6 of these are Basler BT-67 [AC-47T] still flying and fighting in Colombian Air Force)
AC119 Stinger
AC-130A, E, & H Spectre
AC130U Spooky
AC30W Stinger II
AC130J Ghostrider (current model USAF)