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The F-2 is a pretty neat upgrade to the F-16.
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Tornado and Jaguar


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What's going on with those extra spikes on the Tornado???

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What's going on with those extra spikes on the Tornado???

If you're talking in the belly, it looks like it is a Tornado ADV (Air Defense Variant), used primarily by the RAF. Those fins are from the Sparrow/Skyflash missiles.

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Squinting, I think you're right... thanks! :)

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Given their colours, these two must be test aircraft, so this photo was probably shot in the early 80s when ADV version was being developed.
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And then there was one. Philippine Mars undergoing tests and repairs before her final relocation flight to Pima Air & Space Museum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePVST58jGZQ

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Pima is Arizona, isn't it? Is it an amphib, or is there a big lake for her to land on?
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Pima is Arizona, isn't it? Is it an amphib, or is there a big lake for her to land on?

I think they're amphibs. Wiki has a photo of the two Mars undergoing maintenance and it looks like they have landing gear.


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Caproni Ca.3 reproduction test flight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDN84EqIzhY

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So when I saw this I thought it was made up for Crimson Skies
Curtiss-Wright XP-55 Ascender
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So when I saw this I thought it was made up for Crimson Skies
Curtiss-Wright XP-55 Ascender
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The Henschel P.75 is an even closer match for the Hughes Bloodhawk, down to the contra-rotating props and total lack of vertical stabilizer, unlike the XP-55 or Shinden
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So when I saw this I thought it was made up for Crimson Skies
Curtiss-Wright XP-55 Ascender
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Funny looking sucker.  It's like it's just the front half of a plane without the back half attached.
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So when I saw this I thought it was made up for Crimson Skies
Curtiss-Wright XP-55 Ascender
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I always thought it would've been an interesting test platform for the early jet engines.  The engine compartment's already at the back, there's no structure behind it to burn or melt, it's already a tricycle gear layout, the wings are already swept...
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I always thought it would've been an interesting test platform for the early jet engines.  The engine compartment's already at the back, there's no structure behind it to burn or melt, it's already a tricycle gear layout, the wings are already swept...

How about intakes? Would you go with F-5 style side intakes or an F-16 belly scoop?
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The SAAB J-21R basically did just that - swapped a pusher prop for a jet engine.

J-21A

J-21R


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The SAAB J-21R basically did just that - swapped a pusher prop for a jet engine.

J-21A

J-21R


not seeing the images.

will provide wiki links until that can be sorted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAAB_21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_21R

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How about intakes? Would you go with F-5 style side intakes or an F-16 belly scoop?

hm, both have their advantages.  I'm not sure.  There's not a lot of fuselage for the fuel tank, so wing tanks seems more likely, so probably...dunno.
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F-35C The bigger wings are quite noticeable, but the short proportions of the fuselage relative to the honkin' wings looks a little odd


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French Rafales and Italian Typhoons on patrol in Lithuania




Ka'an ground testing engines (I think). Or maybe doing a photo op

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Why not both? :D

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How about intakes? Would you go with F-5 style side intakes or an F-16 belly scoop?

Depends on how long the engine is. Generally you don't want particularly long intakes, I think so I think instead of being at the front of the wing like the F-5, they'd be above it and behind the cockpit like an F-106 or L-39

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Quick question that y'all can probably answer:

Was it the RAF that at last sometimes used triples instead of wing pairs in early WWII (and presumably just before), or am I misremembering?
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Quick question that y'all can probably answer:

Was it the RAF that at last sometimes used triples instead of wing pairs in early WWII (and presumably just before), or am I misremembering?

It was pretty much everybody until they had a breather to reorganize and retrain. That just happened earlier for the Germans in the Spanish Civil War. There might be a technological aspect to it as well. I don't think the pair doctrine really works until radios are widespread and reliable. Wikipedia's articles on both are reasonably detailed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_formation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger-four

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Hmmm... Might not work for me, then. I was asking for the purposes of a Crimson Skies formation, but given the accelerated rate of aviation development and the sheer amount of skirmishing combat experience everyone has in that setting, triples are likely a thing of the past for pretty much everyone in the 'now' of that setting's 1937.

Guess my Ontarioans (?) need a 4th plane, then. Thanks!
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B-36 dwarfing a B-17, B-29 and C-47:

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At that angle, the B-17 looks bigger than the B-29...

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At that angle, the B-17 looks bigger than the B-29...

Forced perspective can do weird things. The B-29 is a third longer than the B-17 (99 ft vs 74 ft)

Here's some vintage early carrier jet footage from CVA-14 USS Ticonderoga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_XyJB-h4cM

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