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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #90 on: 19 March 2024, 02:09:59 »
They didn't do modern upgrades for all the units in the Proliferation pack, so why would they do them for the Celestials, Society, and so on? Nah, these seem to be focused on "historical" eras.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #91 on: 19 March 2024, 06:49:36 »
Very much looking forward to the Celestials, BA and the Protomechs!
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #92 on: 19 March 2024, 09:55:19 »
So first of all, regarding the lack of FWL and CC stuff, I SUSPECT that this relates to Kickstarter SWAG, given their reaction to the SLDF stuff, we know that with the first kickstarter the top 4 factions where ghost bears and Davion in neck and neck, followed by Wolf, with Kurita in a distant 4th. I'd be willing to bet that this release schedule is based around a combination of popularity and release schedule, as well as, what mechs the artists and dev team just like/want to done.

As for the bug box, yeah I hope it happens too. it's been an idea discussed MANY times in discord so I imagine this is very much CGL responding to fan commentary, which is AWESOME to see. CGL listens to us!

Bit different from what I've seen them claim in the wake of the CI kickstarter. Albeit that is several years out of date by now, so could have changed in merch sales since.

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Starting all the way back with decal sales years ago, all the way to the recent Kickstarter. Not much has changed. Davion and Ghost Bear sell the most. The Lyrans and the Kuritans an order of magnitude next, the Wolves next, and then everyone else far below. The uptick we saw in merch sales recently were the Wolves rising up to the Steiner and Kurita tier, and I suspect some of that was part of the "writing on the wall" nature of the last few years of publications.

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Still there does seem to be a correlation between popularity (As of a few years back as I don't know more up to date) and which factions get forcepacks. Clans are heavily over-represented (Except Ghost Bear really), but at a guess that's a mix of these clans being very important to current storyline so they want to push them a bit as well as clan minis in general selling well (As far as I can tell). That or numbers have in fact changed in the last 3 years.

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #93 on: 19 March 2024, 11:04:36 »
Going over the list (subject to change) again, there's three insta-buys for me : Davion II, the Celestials and the Jade Falcon ForcePack.

With all of these Dark Age designs popping up, CGL ought to a) not glue the models to their bases (as is done with the jumping Mechs) and b) sell some MWDA-style clickytech bases as an alternative option  :grin:

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #94 on: 19 March 2024, 11:12:42 »
Still there does seem to be a correlation between popularity (As of a few years back as I don't know more up to date) and which factions get forcepacks. Clans are heavily over-represented (Except Ghost Bear really), but at a guess that's a mix of these clans being very important to current storyline so they want to push them a bit as well as clan minis in general selling well (As far as I can tell). That or numbers have in fact changed in the last 3 years.

There's always going to be a balancing act between producing items for popular factions and making targets for them.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #95 on: 19 March 2024, 11:16:10 »
No jackal, garm, or yeoman...sigh

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #96 on: 19 March 2024, 11:19:13 »
No jackal, garm, or yeoman...sigh

Good God, I wouldn't want to be the person to have to redesign those. I'd agitate for them being extinct and forgotten.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #97 on: 19 March 2024, 11:30:44 »
The Yeoman is there to fire missiles. It does that well.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #98 on: 19 March 2024, 11:32:18 »
Good God, I wouldn't want to be the person to have to redesign those.

Actually, I would like to be the artist with that assignment. Because no matter how bad I botched it up, they still would all be greatly improved.     :wink:
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #99 on: 19 March 2024, 11:35:05 »
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #100 on: 19 March 2024, 11:35:45 »
Good God, I wouldn't want to be the person to have to redesign those. I'd agitate for them being extinct and forgotten.

Careful now - the last time someone talked smack about the Yeoman, an UrbanMech stepped on his hover limousine.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #101 on: 19 March 2024, 11:41:27 »
Will we?

IWM doesn't have to wait to produce metal minis just because Catalyst is producing a plastic one- they made a metal Regent well before we got the plastic one in the GDL lance pack.

That depends on if CGL sends IWM the STL they need to make the mini.  IF CGL doesn't send them said art it would be hard for them to do something.  Not saying what is or isn't happening just that IWM is dependent on art they don't produce

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #102 on: 19 March 2024, 11:43:12 »
Actually, I would like to be the artist with that assignment. Because no matter how bad I botched it up, they still would all be greatly improved.     :wink:
Simply retcon them all as being extreme UrbanMech refits.  :wink:
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #103 on: 19 March 2024, 12:43:42 »
I want more variety in my bug box ... still 12 total, but perhaps get 2 hornets tossed in ... any other's that would qualify? oooh what about fleas, we need more fleas -- said no dog ever.

I would be all over a company box with one or more Fleas in it - but only if they're proper Fleas, not the scrawny just-call-it-a-Locust disappointment that's coming in the Merc Box.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #104 on: 19 March 2024, 15:01:05 »
That is a lot of new models! Really hope that the plastic Jade Phoenix becomes a reality. I have wanted that mech since I saw it in the RecGuides. I prefer the plastic minis to the metal ones, but even then I was seriously considering buying it. If the plastic one is confirmed, I have no problem waiting a couple of years  :grin:

But to be fair I think that I will try to get at least one box of each of those pack, except the ones with protomechs, cause I don't like them at all. But for the people who like them, I'm happy to see them done anyway.

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #105 on: 19 March 2024, 16:33:52 »
If it were up to me to make a bug force pack, it'd probably be like a comstar style six pack.  Locust, Stinger, Wasp, either Spider or Flea

If they need more tonnage to add value, throw in a Grasshopper and Cicada.

How'd I forget the Spider! ... I'd like a modern/MWDA version please.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #106 on: 19 March 2024, 19:22:46 »
Davion:  Hmm, Likely Yes.
Davion I:  No
Kurita I:   Yes, but really......  Like I need another Panther????  Grr
Kurita II:    No
BS: No
Wars of Reaving: No
Clan Wolf I: No
Clan Wolf II: No
Celestials:  No
BS: No
Clan Jade Falcon:  No
21st Centauri Lancers:  No
BS: Fortifications  No
House Steiner I:  2/4, hmm, Maybe
House Steiner II:  No
Ares:  No
Hell's Horses:  3/6... Maybe   
BS: Clan Vehicles ... Maybe
Wolf Empire:  No
Alyina Mercantile League:  No
BS:  No
Clan Sea Fox:  No
Clan Ghost Bear:  No
Raslhauge Dominion:  No
BS :  No
Bug Company Box:    No
Fox Patrol:     No

Not bad at all, lots of new stuff in there, sadly only 5 of them really jump out at me as purchases.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #107 on: 19 March 2024, 19:26:09 »
Careful now - the last time someone talked smack about the Yeoman, an UrbanMech stepped on his hover limousine.

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #108 on: 19 March 2024, 19:31:27 »
Clearly they're saving the CCAF ForcePacks for the last because they're the best.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #109 on: 19 March 2024, 19:38:08 »
I'm thinking a Bug Box could be half as many of the "20-ton Trio", in order to add in some other "Small Bugs".

2 Each -  Wasp, Stinger, Locust.
1 Each - Hornet, Flea, Firefly, Spider, Cicada, Tarantula.

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #110 on: 19 March 2024, 20:12:42 »
See, I think the "bug box" should be kept to LCTs, STGs, and WSPs and be branded "Ravannion's Horde." If possible, throw in a one-page scenario sheet.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #111 on: 19 March 2024, 23:12:09 »
Good God, I wouldn't want to be the person to have to redesign those. I'd agitate for them being extinct and forgotten.

Bosch, I respect you greatly, but i must disagree about you with regards to the Yeoman. It is perfect just the way it is! Ugly, yes, but it does not need to be pretty to hurl missiles at people.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #112 on: 19 March 2024, 23:34:03 »
Bosch, I respect you greatly, but i must disagree about you with regards to the Yeoman. It is perfect just the way it is! Ugly, yes, but it does not need to be pretty to hurl missiles at people.

I appreciate the kind words, but I'd rather pilot a Quasit instead of the Ye-old-brick.
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« Reply #113 on: 19 March 2024, 23:37:06 »
The Yeoman doesn't look ugly so much as it looks like the artist got bored halfway through and quit.
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #114 on: 20 March 2024, 00:01:02 »
I like the missile brick. Of the designs that make my eye twitch a bit in Battletech the walking square does not top them.

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #115 on: 20 March 2024, 00:12:39 »
honestly, i think it needs a redesign more than many others. give it a better visual balance and make it look less like a waddling boombox.
especially since the revised version would gain a waist. which might well end up making it look a little more Catapultish in layout.

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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #116 on: 20 March 2024, 01:58:50 »
Scorpions, Grasshoppers, Goliaths (Might be pushing that one), Bug-Eye, etc...
 You could also throw in later additions like the Fire Moth, Dragonfly, Tarantula and so forth.

I'd be down for some Quad Boxes!   :smilie_happy_thumbup: :drinking01:

Either Lance Boxes, with 3-4 variants, or Company Boxes, also with Variants.  Still a shame we have to wait so long for the Doom Courser.   :cry:
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« Reply #117 on: 20 March 2024, 02:15:14 »
Also curious, will the Thud 9NAIS be a PP version or redone as a NuSeen?
Post #353 in the "Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday" Thread has a pic of the -9NAIS, and it IS the new Classic style!   :smilie_happy_thumbup:  I'd been wondering the same thing!


The 4th post on this Link shows the T-Bolt.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=84184.350
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« Reply #118 on: 20 March 2024, 02:20:53 »
If you can't get out from underneath an Urbanmech's foot, you deserve to be stepped on!
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Re: Kerensky Con Rumors.
« Reply #119 on: 20 March 2024, 04:08:00 »
Post #353 in the "Re: Upcoming Releases XXIX: First Annual 29th Birthday" Thread has a pic of the -9NAIS, and it IS the new Classic style!   :smilie_happy_thumbup:  I'd been wondering the same thing!


The 4th post on this Link shows the T-Bolt.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=84184.350

Yes, the Thunderbolt in the photos from Kerensky Con is the 9NAIS variant.

Looks great, apart from the square missile launcher. It looks out of place on Thunderbolt, at least that's my impression.