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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #60 on: 29 October 2024, 21:51:48 »
Love this guy, probably my favorite light mech outside of the Panther. Like the Enforcer I am tired of the Davions having all these mechs that I like so much  :angry:
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #61 on: 29 October 2024, 22:04:25 »
would the Javelins made by Jalastar in the FS be visually distinguishable from those made by Stormvanger prior to the Amaris coup?

I would assume so since they were not part of the Project Phoenix "resculpt them" process in universe.

It's possible they got the plans from the factory ruins.
I mean, that is how the FWL got the Spider/Guillotine into production IIRC.
They raided New Earth in the 1st SW & went home w/ the plans to put them into production there.

Might just be that Davion, having 3000? Javelins to start with & a lack of free mech lines didn't have anywhere to restart it.
It could also be that the Javelin plans happened to be on the Helm Core along w/ all the crap from 2750/3058 & with the renaissance they were able to expand & build a line finally.
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #62 on: 29 October 2024, 22:40:25 »
A just-as-good question is how did the Fed Suns manage to get them back into production?  Did Jalastar Aerospace completely reverse-engineer the design, coming up with new molds from scratch that would produce parts that resembled the original as closely as possible?

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i tend to assume that it was something of the sort. that the AFFS commands contracted out to factories to produce bespoke spare parts whenever stockpiles of old or cannibalized spares ran short for these OOP but still in wide use designs. with the factories reverse engineering sample parts so they can either make new ones in small batches, or adapt existing parts for something else to work as a replacement. and that Jalastar Aerospace kept the plans from these contracts on file, and someone realized "hey, we've got like 95% of the part blueprints needed to build javelins in our records".
followed by them approaching the AFFS with a plan to build a new production line, and seeking funding.
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #63 on: 29 October 2024, 22:43:47 »
When it comes to working on these articles, I find that relying on TRO:3025 is... not aw aste of time, per se, but unless another source cooborates details it's hard to rely on what it says- a lot of that one is contradictory, nonsensical, or just plain wrong (famously, the Zeus' debut year comes to mind). This includes production numbers- how many Archers, Stingers, etc. are out there. I know the book sometimes gives us a black and white number, but... it's a VERY unreliable source in-general. Always treat it as a flawed document that requires backup sources before anything fluff-based can be taken as fact.
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #64 on: 30 October 2024, 10:00:36 »
A just-as-good question is how did the Fed Suns manage to get them back into production?  Did Jalastar Aerospace completely reverse-engineer the design, coming up with new molds from scratch that would produce parts that resembled the original as closely as possible?

New Dallas memory core probably had the plans.
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #65 on: 30 October 2024, 12:24:30 »
New Dallas memory core probably had the plans.

I mentioned Helm above.
New Dallas wouldn't be relevant, it was back in production long before it was found.
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #66 on: 30 October 2024, 15:01:39 »
Love this guy, probably my favorite light mech outside of the Panther.

I've often wanted to see them re-do the panther, making it faster, but keeping the ppc..
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #67 on: 30 October 2024, 15:24:53 »
I've often wanted to see them re-do the panther, making it faster, but keeping the ppc..

Latest iteration is 4/6 (8)/4, does that count?

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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #68 on: 30 October 2024, 15:39:15 »
I've often wanted to see them re-do the panther, making it faster, but keeping the ppc..

Yeah, can't do much w/ that in Intro Tech (Possible, but limited options).
But w/ Standard Tech, very easy with DHS & ES to save enough for a 5/8/5 boost.
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #69 on: 30 October 2024, 19:17:45 »
Sounds like a great thread to make in Fan Articles.

(Seriously, curious to see what people brew up!)
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Re: MotW: Javelin
« Reply #70 on: Today at 04:54:53 »
I've often wanted to see them re-do the panther, making it faster, but keeping the ppc..
you can't really keep the PPC and the SRM4 without sacrificing either speed, JJ mobility, or armor.. though you could just fit the PPC and an extra SHS.

but you can easily fit the LL+SRM4 loadout of the original -8Z panther.. though with only 10 SHS it would have a little more heat issues than that panther variant. but it would get you fairly close to your idea of a faster panther built on a javelin chassis.

 

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