Ontos everything

[Sabelkatten]

...well, not really. But I realized I could fit a bunch of MLs along with MMLs and LGRs if I used a SFE. And then I threw in a C3 slave because a 25-hex short range is amusing.

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Ontos Laser-LGR-MML

Mass: 95 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 6 676 800 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 356

Power Plant:  285 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32,4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54,0 km/h
Armor:  Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2  Light Gauss Rifles
    4  Medium Lasers
    4  MML-3s
    1 Unknown CASE
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      50 points                9,50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                285                      25,00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             12                        2,00
Control Equipment:                                                         5,00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0,00
Turret:                                                                    3,50
Armor:              Heavy Ferro-Fibrous          AV - 208                 10,50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     54       
                                          Left/Right   43/43       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     32       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Light Gauss Rifles                         T         2         2        24,00
4 Medium Lasers                              T         12        4         4,00
4 MML-3s                                     T         8         4         6,00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0,50
C3 Computer (Slave)                          BD        0         1         1,00
@Light Gauss Rifle (32)                      BD        -         0         2,00
@MML-3 (LRM) (40)                            BD        -         0         1,00
@MML-3 (SRM) (33)                            BD        -         0         1,00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 14
3t         5       5       3       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: CASE, C3S, TUR(5/5/3, SRM 2/1/1, LRM 2/1/1, IF 2/1/1), IF 1

[Der Kommissar]

Peculiar little bugger, it definitely still deserves the 'Ontos' name.

[Hellraiser]

I like it, the ML/MML spam reminds me of a custom mod I used in a campaign.
Didn't have the LGRs but had a LOT more of those MML3s

[Firesprocket]

I like it.  The BV isn't horrible either and I'd use 2 of these over 2 of the LGR Ontos if the option was available to me.

I saw your comment about Piranha with UMUs in the Ontos VoTW and for some reason that got me thinking about how many MiPLs could one fit on an Ontos for no good reason.  It's fully amphibious just because I could and Clan LRMs are the only thing that give it any utility.  If you need to put down a riot on the beach or elsewhere this might be best machine (that thoroughly wastes resources) to do it.

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Ontos C

Mass: 95 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-X
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 8,059,350 C-Bills
Total Cost: 8,239,350 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,713

Power Plant:  285 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    3  (CL) LRM-15s
    14  (CL) Micro Pulse Lasers
    1  Infantry Bay (4.0 tons)
    1  Guardian ECM Suite
    1  Angel ECM
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      50 points                9.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                285                      25.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         (IS) Single Heat Sink        14                        4.00
Control Equipment:                                                         5.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 172                  9.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     40       
                                          Left/Right   34/34       
                                              Turret     34       
                                                Rear     30       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
14 (CL) Micro Pulse Lasers                   T         14        14        7.00
3 (CL) LRM-15s                               T         15        3        10.50
Infantry Bay (4.0 tons)                      BD        0         1         4.00
Guardian ECM Suite                           BD        0         1         1.50
Angel ECM                                    BD        0         1         2.00
@LRM-15 (48)                                 BD        -         0         6.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 17
3t         8       3       3       0      4     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ECM, AECM, TUR(8/3/3, LRM 3/3/3, IF 3/3/3), LRM 3/3/3, IF 3



[CarcosanDawn]

I like the Unknown CASE under 'Armament'. It makes me wonder if the last weapon is a suitcase nuke hidden in the crew storage...

[Firesprocket]

Maybe I will revise it at some point and time and equip it with a booby trap.

[PuppyLikesLaserPointers]

Personally I doubt the effectiveness of LGR, but for this I concede that it's quite viable option to have for the enemy could aim for pin it down and shoot to death from afar without that. With MML-3s it would be a surprise for who expects a close ranged bruiser.

[Firesprocket]

Personally I doubt the effectiveness of LGR, but for this I concede that it's quite viable option to have for the enemy could aim for pin it down and shoot to death from afar without that. With MML-3s it would be a surprise for who expects a close ranged bruiser.

You have to have a significant amount of of LGRs to properly make use of them.  That on its own can make it a dealbreaker for most people.  The extra range they have over a standard gauss and 16 shots per ton makes them more attractive in setting where you going more than 8-10 turns or in a campaign.

Honestly they are best used on tanks to obtain a longer range because Clan ER Large Lasers are a thing that mechs can use well and tanks typically don't.  It is a team player weapon.

[Daryk]

The main use of LGRs (and AC/2s) is AAA... range is all when you're shooting at flying things...

[Iceweb]

The main use of LGRs (and AC/2s) is AAA... range is all when you're shooting at flying things...

It does make me wish there was a Light Silver Bullet Guass rifle for all your AA needs. 

[Daryk]

Personally, I'd just as soon see Silver Bullets be just alternate ammo for Gauss Rifles of any size...

[Sabelkatten]

Personally, I'd just as soon see Silver Bullets be just alternate ammo for Gauss Rifles of any size...

(IS) GRs are a bit too overpowered as is to make that really balanced... Even if it would make sense.

Anyway, nice to see that my wild idea sparked some interest!

[Hellraiser]

Personally, I'd just as soon see Silver Bullets be just alternate ammo for Gauss Rifles of any size...

Ditto.

[Daryk]

If balance is a concern, I could see requiring some tweaks that would limit a weapon to one kind or another in a fight.  But logistically, it wouldn't be two kinds of Gauss Rifle at each size.