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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #90 on: 11 January 2021, 02:07:13 »
I'm pretty excited to see the Minsk and War Crow, myself.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #91 on: 11 January 2021, 02:30:08 »
Sweet.

Did the Hierofalcon miss the cutoff from the fan funding? Iirc it was Prime A and B there?

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #92 on: 11 January 2021, 02:31:10 »
likely added later as web-exclusives or scrapyard parts

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #93 on: 11 January 2021, 02:44:28 »
Was the War Crow in the RecGuides yet?

Surprised, I would have expected something else there featuring more with ilClan.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #94 on: 11 January 2021, 02:47:23 »
The War Crow was in RecGuide 7.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #95 on: 11 January 2021, 08:52:35 »
Was the War Crow in the RecGuides yet?

Surprised, I would have expected something else there featuring more with ilClan.

Whole process is delayed by at least three months. The winter release trio were all mods of extant mechs to boot.

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #96 on: 11 January 2021, 09:20:52 »
the BFFL was a surprise, yeah

It was such a surprise that I am now considering picking it as part of OpFor for Anton's Revolt Campaign. Although I am not sure which battles it was part of.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #97 on: 11 January 2021, 11:21:09 »
Whole process is delayed by at least three months. The winter release trio were all mods of extant mechs to boot.

It was just more along the lines of a earlier RecGuide Wolf mech, but like I said I do not have that RecGuide so I could be off on details.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #98 on: 11 January 2021, 12:18:38 »
Can't wait to get my hands on a chunky piece of metal (the "Buffalo") and I'm excited to see how crisp the Typhoon looks.  IWM has been hitting it out of the park with their more recent aerospace fighter minis.  I wish IWM would get first go on resculpting and selling new minis of the original ASFs... but I digress. 

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #99 on: 11 January 2021, 21:14:19 »
the BFFL was a surprise, yeah

That one kind of got stuck in limbo for awhile. It is in line for production molds, but mold room is behind due to Contract Casting customers and mold makers being out.

Sweet.

Did the Hierofalcon miss the cutoff from the fan funding? Iirc it was Prime A and B there?

They are being done.

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #100 on: 15 January 2021, 09:49:38 »
Any chance of seeing the "Master" (or CAD?) for the Buffalo?   ???
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #101 on: 23 January 2021, 20:01:03 »
Are the new mechs going to be in scale with the kickstarter ones?

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #102 on: 23 January 2021, 20:12:30 »
 . . . seen the Shadow Hawk?

You also know they are using the same files?
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #103 on: 23 January 2021, 20:34:39 »
. . . seen the Shadow Hawk?

You also know they are using the same files?

I know that they are using the same files for the Kickstarter mechs but how are the new mechs such as the Hierofalcon being designed?  Are they being sculpted the same way?  Will the Minsk and War Crow be of comparable size the new Kickstarter Heavy and Assault Mechs?

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #104 on: 24 January 2021, 23:01:10 »
Are the new mechs going to be in scale with the kickstarter ones?

Yes they will be.

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #105 on: 24 January 2021, 23:02:33 »
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #106 on: 31 January 2021, 01:27:23 »
Yeah!  BFFL!

I can now scare the hell out of my OpFor with my Manei Domini flooding the table with Drone Bomb laden Buffalo carrying Copperhead Shells!

( Evil maniacal laughter ensures!  >:D )

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #107 on: 31 January 2021, 02:28:03 »
Why Copperheads?
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #108 on: 31 January 2021, 19:28:46 »
Well each Copperhead round does both damage as direct and area effect, same as Arrow Homing.

Plus I can ram with the supercharger, detonate the booby-trap, and explode the Copperhead rounds for a final finale! Pretty sure that breaks the Ares Conventions... and makes a permanent crater.

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #109 on: 31 January 2021, 19:51:17 »
Just seems like using HE shells would cause more damage.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #110 on: 31 January 2021, 20:02:29 »
It's all about area effects...

Ramming knocks you about, Booby-Trap hits you hard, and then everything in the area gets hit, with splash damage!

Pretty sure a Colossal-class won't shake that off, even with Impact Resistant armor!

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #111 on: 31 January 2021, 20:17:06 »
Where's the rule that says AE ammo does AE boom? Last I checked, raw damage was the ONLY consideration for the AE ammo boom rule, so machine gun ammo will always be your best bet by a huge margin.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #112 on: 31 January 2021, 20:56:33 »
If you don't want them as suicide vehicles, Buffalos can be used as convoy vehicles that need to be defended or destroyed.

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #113 on: 31 January 2021, 21:05:46 »
Done both...

Great cargo haulers...

And as for the Boom effect, true, except Copperheads have an area effect built in... each round does 20 points in the hex, but does 10 the surrounding hexes as well... times 5 per ton times 10 extra tons ( Cargo of BFFL ) = 500 extra points each of the six surrounding impact hex, that should get some head turnings at the table!

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #114 on: 31 January 2021, 21:19:07 »
Done both...

Great cargo haulers...

And as for the Boom effect, true, except Copperheads have an area effect built in... each round does 20 points in the hex, but does 10 the surrounding hexes as well... times 5 per ton times 10 extra tons ( Cargo of BFFL ) = 500 extra points each of the six surrounding impact hex, that should get some head turnings at the table!

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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #115 on: 31 January 2021, 21:21:11 »
I think I creeped someone out...

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« Reply #116 on: 31 January 2021, 21:45:23 »
... but does 10 the surrounding hexes as well... times 5 per ton times 10 extra tons ( Cargo of BFFL ) = 500 extra points each of the six surrounding impact hex,

I already told you, that's not a thing. You want to use the TacOps rules for ammo boom, you are required to look at one thing and one thing only: the total standard damage. AE rounds do NOT get their blast damage factored into this.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #117 on: 06 February 2021, 14:23:29 »
I already told you, that's not a thing. You want to use the TacOps rules for ammo boom, you are required to look at one thing and one thing only: the total standard damage. AE rounds do NOT get their blast damage factored into this.

I might be missing something here to but isnt Copperhead rounds 15/10/5 damage for Long Tom/Sniper/Thumper pieces with a Radius of R(0)?

And going by the Ammo explosion rules in Tac Ops it'd be damaged cause divided by 10 applied to the destroyed unit's target hex and then all unit in adjacent hexes taking 1/2 that damage (rounded down).

(My understanding could be out of date however as I only have an older PDF to reference)

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« Reply #118 on: 06 February 2021, 14:36:17 »
That sounds about right. Now do the math for the same boom, with machine gun ammo.
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Re: What's in the Pipeline 2: the Wrath of Speck
« Reply #119 on: 07 February 2021, 18:47:47 »
Any idea when the new White Raven/Black Python sculpt from RecGuide 12 is coming? If it needs fan funding to get a quicker release I'm sure myself and others would be more than willing to chip in.