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Dembigtanks

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mw4 vulture.
« on: 18 December 2012, 01:20:27 »
What are your thoughts on the MW4 vulture? I so wish they would make it. It looks better than the vulture resculpt.


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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #1 on: 18 December 2012, 01:30:09 »
Wonder if they are making the rac variant of the bolla stealth tank?

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #2 on: 18 December 2012, 02:36:04 »
What are your thoughts on the MW4 vulture? I so wish they would make it. It looks better than the vulture resculpt.

MS has copyright on it but it has been canonized as the IS-built ones in Ghost Bear space (built on Alshain IIRC).

The Dark Age Vultures are also made to look like it. With production moving toward the Mk IV in the 3140's, there's only a small window for it to be introduced like the Arctic Wolf II in the concurrent timeline.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #3 on: 18 December 2012, 04:34:50 »
I like the look of it.  O0
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #4 on: 18 December 2012, 10:22:46 »
want it want it WANT IT!!!!!   >:D
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #5 on: 19 December 2012, 18:31:04 »
I'd love to be able to buy a copy too ... alas for it's absurdly unlikely.
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #6 on: 19 December 2012, 22:03:54 »
I guess i am gonna have to shrink the paper craft one down. To 18%to20% or so of original size. Then doctor it up a little to give it dimensions.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #7 on: 19 December 2012, 22:06:20 »
Meh, I'm happy with the original.


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« Reply #8 on: 19 December 2012, 22:30:15 »
Meh, I'm happy with the original.

Me too, I just want both ;)
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #9 on: 19 December 2012, 23:20:05 »
I'd like it if TPTB did something like make it a fixed chasis version of the Omni.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #10 on: 19 December 2012, 23:37:10 »
I'd like it if TPTB did something like make it a fixed chasis version of the Omni.

"Want all of the firepower of a Mad Dog without the cost? Common down to Merchant Bob's and buy a brand new Vulture(f)! Sure its not an Omni, but it beats being solhama!"  ;D
If only they went that direction with the Ryoken 2

While no can replace then original, MW4 came up with a nice look fore the Vaulter (very walking tank)
It a much better look than the MK IV hands down, lets hope IWM can work the same magic on that mech as they did with the Savage Wolf.
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #11 on: 20 December 2012, 00:05:01 »
I am a fan of that design.  Looks sturdy enough to actually be a combat machine, instead of weird, mildly attached torsos.
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #12 on: 20 December 2012, 00:24:36 »
i have always liked this designe of the vulture.  i would buy them if they made them.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #13 on: 20 December 2012, 10:29:39 »
Can be done from current mini, with doze of putty, two sawed and filed arms from Madcat II, and scratchbuild chin turret.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #14 on: 20 December 2012, 10:39:12 »
I was thinking the Anhur turret would fit perfectly.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #15 on: 20 December 2012, 17:26:02 »
Looks just like the MW:DA version. Have 3 of those.

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« Reply #16 on: 20 December 2012, 17:52:31 »
Looks just like the MW:DA version. Have 3 of those.

The DA version has skinny legs.  If they were a little beefier, I'd love that sculpt too.
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #17 on: 20 December 2012, 17:58:12 »
As my second choice clan ride (second only to the Summoner) I will agree. Yes please!

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #18 on: 20 December 2012, 18:29:17 »
Ok... I am absolutely not a clan guy, so maybe I'm missing something. But;

Take a Vulture "Mad Dog" Prime [20-600RE], cut the cockpit off, then split it down the middle... Add plasticard to bulk it up... Replace the cockpit.. Pretty much that takes care of the torso... Maybe something like Mad Cat "Timber Wolf" OmniMech Config E Arms (OP-080, and OP-081), flipped upside-down. With the barrels modified some, and the upper arm removed and replaced with something else... Not sure what I would use for the chin turret, but it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something. I might also be tempted to thicken the lower legs with plasticard also... Heck, even putting missile doors on it would be nothing more then a little strip brass...

It seems like a pretty straight forward bash/mod... And compared to some of the other ones I've done, pretty cheap too (cost of the Vulture, plus the two arms ($2.50/each), plus maybe another $2-$5 for what ever I'd use for the chin turret..

So what am I missing?

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #19 on: 20 December 2012, 19:19:33 »
The fact that most of us aren't leet-skillz modders like you ;) You lost me at "then split it down the middle", and I do enjoy some challenge mini-wise.

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« Reply #20 on: 20 December 2012, 20:21:34 »
You lost me at "then split it down the middle"

If you look at the mini, front on like you were facing it... Split it down the middle like you were making a left half, and a right half... It's the one place you could add plasticard, without having to rebuild a lot of detail (I'm lazy that way)... Even with a fairly thick saw blade, you should still have enough metal on both sides to help sculpt the plasticard to the shape you want... The reason you would even bother is if you look at the rendering and then look at the mini, the center torso is a lot thinner on the mini... You want to thicken it up a little.

Basically, you want the center torso as wide as the cockpit is, which appears to overhang the sides on the mini. But the nice part is, you can use the cockpit to help decide how much plasticard to add..

If that gives you a better idea of what I was saying... What else am I missing?

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« Reply #21 on: 20 December 2012, 21:02:23 »
It's not the concept, it's the odds of completing the cut cleanly and accurately ;)

I'd be more inclined to try and get hold of two torsos, and fill the gap between them to make one. Maybe Blood Asp top guns for the arms? And you'd have to scratch the cute chin turret.
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* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
* It was a glorious time for people who felt that we didn't have enough Marauder variants - HABeas2, re "Empires Aflame"

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« Reply #22 on: 20 December 2012, 22:41:02 »
Every cut is "clean and accurate" with enough filler...  ;)

Between this post and my last, I spent some time looking at the Vulture re-sculpt and the rendered version, with an eye for detail... And came up with the following list of additional mods that needed to be done..

The outside-lower-back portion of the missile seems beveled back to the center  torso... So that would need to be cut in.

The missile racks also seem flush against the sides of the center torso (currently there is a small space, reminiscent of an unseen Archer). And the tops of the missile racks are flush with the top of the center torso also (currently they are more flush with the top of the cockpit).

There exists a protrusion down the center of the center torso, that would need to be filed flush.

The front "beak" piece would need to be removed, to make the nose flush (which would make a good piece to make the little chin gun out of).

The little "warts" on either side of the nose should be replaced with something more boxy looking... I was thinking the shoulder part of the arms that come with it would make a good replacement.

And the dome shaped part where the upper and lower torso meet would need to be filed flush.

As for your Blood Asp top gun idea... Visually I think that would look very good... But the gun only supports one barrel, which would be a deviation from the intended design...

There are two places in town that might have the vulture in stock... Maybe I'll have to go take a trip tomorrow.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #23 on: 20 December 2012, 23:09:50 »
Looking forward to pics!  O0
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* The Hellbringer is cool, either way. It's not cool because it's bad, it's cool because it's bad with balls - Nightsky
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« Reply #24 on: 21 December 2012, 16:33:22 »
Looking forward to pics!  O0

I scored a Vulture resculpt at my FLGS (although it is a little questionable how "Friendly" they are)... So work begins this afternoon.

I also revised my idea for the arms... I think the Thor D Arms (Thor D left arm [OP-009] and Thor D right arm [OP-010] would work better then the Mad Cat E Arms... I've got requests in at both LotB and BTU... Hopefully someone will have a set... If not, it could be months before it is finished.

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« Reply #25 on: 21 December 2012, 19:33:57 »
I scored a Vulture resculpt at my FLGS (although it is a little questionable how "Friendly" they are)... So work begins this afternoon.

I also revised my idea for the arms... I think the Thor D Arms (Thor D left arm [OP-009] and Thor D right arm [OP-010] would work better then the Mad Cat E Arms... I've got requests in at both LotB and BTU... Hopefully someone will have a set... If not, it could be months before it is finished.

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They may be out of scale but you might use the lower arms from a MWDA Thor.

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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #26 on: 23 December 2012, 13:47:56 »
the mw4 vulture has made an appearance on my workbench.

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« Reply #27 on: 23 December 2012, 17:01:48 »
that looks great. Would love to see it in better focus
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Re: mw4 vulture.
« Reply #28 on: 23 December 2012, 22:10:26 »
It is an old camera was going bad. I have a new one I will be starting over on the vulture micro paper figure.I need to get an ink refill before I can reprint it to size.

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« Reply #29 on: 23 December 2012, 22:10:54 »
the mw4 vulture has made an appearance on my workbench.

Scratch build?

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