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Ramblefire

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Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« on: 02 July 2022, 18:10:30 »
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Giga-Cruiser (Harley Davidson)
Mass: 3.5 tons

Movement Type: Wheeled

Power Plant: ICE
Cruising Speed: 97.2 kph
Maximum Speed: 194.4 kph
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:

Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3000
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-F-F-D
Cost: 37,850 C-bills

Type: Giga-Cruiser
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Mass: 3,500 kg
Battle Value: 28

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  207.0
Engine/Trans.                                     2232.0
    Cruise MP:9
Flank MP:14(18)
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               47.0
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          11                  440.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         5     
     R/L Side               1/1       2/2   
     Rear                    1         2     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.35 tons)       1 Door   

Notes:
Features Ultra-Light, Bicycle Chassis and Controls Modifications
Supercharger(224 kg)

1 external seat

Structure Rating: C
Engine Rating: B

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Honda UrbanRide (Scooter)

Mass: 0.125 tons

Movement Type: Wheeled

Power Plant: ICE
Cruising Speed: 86.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 129.6 kph
Armor: BAR 3
Armament:

Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3000
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-E-D-D
Cost: 603 C-bills




 
Type: Honda UrbanRide
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 125 kg
Battle Value: 9

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                   31.0
Engine/Trans.                                      32.0
    Cruise MP:8
Flank MP:12
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                5.0
Armor Factor (BAR 3)          3                    57.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         0     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Ultra-Light, Bicycle Chassis and Controls Modifications

Engine and Structure Rating: D

Here are two examples from opposite ends of the spectrum of bike support vehicles. By the later years of the 3rd succession war, Honda has very much left the military market.

Harley is very much a FedCom brand with their production only in the Lyran Commonwealth, Fed Suns, and Terra.

Honda is based out of New Kyoto in the Lyran Commonwealth and has motorcycle factories in every successor state except the Capellan Confederation but with their best sales in the Magistracy of Canopus, LC, and DC, though that's not to say their sales in the Outworlds Alliance, Fed Suns, Taurian Concordat, and Free Worlds League are anything other than mind boggling.

For reasons that completely elude Harley Executives, they have never been able to keep up with the scale of Honda's sales figures. The Giga-Cruiser is Harley's latest attempt to unseat the monolith, but with sales of less than 50,000 Giga-Cruisers since it's introduction, it's back to the drawing board.

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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #1 on: 02 July 2022, 22:22:19 »
Gee, I wonder why the bike costing ~600 C-Bills oustsells the bike costing ~37,000 C-Bills.  I mean, the Gigacruiser only weighs 28* and costs ~60* as much.  The Gigacruiser has enough cargo capacity to carry two Urbanbikes on board, and has room for n extra passenger.

Still, nice ideas.  One is  high-speed semi-protected bike with a third of a ton of cargo capacity that can easily carry a passenger, and the other is a basic bike for puttering around town.

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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #2 on: 03 July 2022, 12:29:33 »
What the hell was the Harley designed for, combat support?  3.5 tons??    Is it a trike?
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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #3 on: 03 July 2022, 15:02:15 »
What the hell was the Harley designed for, combat support?  3.5 tons??    Is it a trike?

Marketed toward the Police and Military, though less the LCAF and more militias with the idea that it could be used for long range scouting or supplying small scout outposts or sniper teams.

On the private market, it was being marketed against the people who the Honda UrbanRide was being marketed to. Basically people who aren't lower to middle-class urban-suburban single parents, younger white collar professionals, students, teenagers, people living in places that appear on lists like "Cities with the top 100 worst commutes in the inner sphere".

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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #4 on: 03 July 2022, 21:27:05 »
Marketed toward the Police and Military, though less the LCAF and more militias with the idea that it could be used for long range scouting or supplying small scout outposts or sniper teams.

On the private market, it was being marketed against the people who the Honda UrbanRide was being marketed to. Basically people who aren't lower to middle-class urban-suburban single parents, younger white collar professionals, students, teenagers, people living in places that appear on lists like "Cities with the top 100 worst commutes in the inner sphere".
so in other words it a solution looking for the problem.  8) No wonder the Marketing department having issue selling it.  Anyone in the design department thought about dropping the wgt by ohh  2/3??  I know we Lryan love bigger things but really.. now

I can see it as a trike with enclosed rear compartment being used a Police vehicle.  Hell with the speed could work as an interceptor, with the supercharger.

You could try marketing it as a Light Battle Armor/PAL transports

If you can convert it to fuel cell so it would be more silent running, I might be interested in for my Scout/Sniper Teams for deployments as " light transport" vehicle.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"

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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #5 on: 06 July 2022, 18:53:29 »
Anyone in the design department thought about dropping the wgt by ohh  2/3??
It's a Harley. Why in the world would you make it smaller and cheaper? To appeal to NERDS!?!

If you can convert it to fuel cell so it would be more silent running
If it were silent, would it be a Harley?

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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2022, 12:56:05 »
It's a Harley. Why in the world would you make it smaller and cheaper? To appeal to NERDS!?!
If it were silent, would it be a Harley?
Sadly.. that sounds like Harley management team
Dnepr M-72

and the "run silent" was something to bring my Scout/Snipers Teams into areas quietly
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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2022, 13:08:50 »
That looks suspiciously applicable to the current conflict...  ^-^

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« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2022, 14:39:36 »
That looks suspiciously applicable to the current conflict...  ^-^
shocking that a ww2 design looks like it could still be workable
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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #9 on: 09 July 2022, 00:49:16 »
In terms of Fuel Cell vehicles
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Honda Millennium GoldWing (Safe 2650)

Mass: 0.85 tons

Movement Type: Wheeled

Power Plant: Fuel Cell
Cruising Speed: 118.8 kph
Maximum Speed: 183.6 kph
Armor: BAR 3
Armament: the gun in the glove box (if you've got one)

Communication System: Toshiba 2950xdxd All-In-One Automotive Console
Targeting & Tracking System: Texas Instruments 360Sense+camera
Introduction Year: 3000
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-E-D-D
Cost: 4,121 C-bills
 
Type: Honda Millennium GoldWing
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 850 kg
Battle Value: 10

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  125.0
Engine/Trans.                                     319.0
    Cruise MP:11
Flank MP:17
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               20.0
Armor Factor (BAR 3)          3                    72.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         0     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.304 tons)      1 Door   

Notes:
Features Ultra-Light, Bicycle Chassis and Controls Modifications
Searchlight(2; 5 kg each)

1 Standard Seat

Oh so rudely budging into Harley's ballpark for the last 1020 years as of the turn of the Millennium, the GoldWing is a touring bike that has changed very little since 2650 when its ergonomics and characteristics had been perfected by Honda engineering genius Phillip Asuno. The fuel cell engine is whisper quiet. The trunk is spacious and also provides a generous crumple for when something happens. The seat is large, ergonomic, comfortable, and encourages good posture. It's got heating, cooling, cruise control, and everything else. For the last 350 years, very little has changed of Mr. Asuno's design with the last big update in 2678 (the introduction of an SRCS driver assist) being rolled back when the marketing department dropped the ball and called the newest feature an auto-pilot.

The goldwing has the dubious infamy of being the subject of the largest consumer recall in recorded human history due to the inordinate number of deaths misuse of the driver's assist caused. Those who brought in their bikes were given a free 2650 on top of the full consumer refund. So that's why the 2650 model is sticking around.
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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #10 on: 23 July 2022, 02:41:07 »
Just curious, how about this one?   >:D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_150_TAP

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Re: Consumer Bike Support Vehicles
« Reply #11 on: 23 July 2022, 03:02:00 »
Well, how a 3.5 tons vehicle can be called a bike, then? If it is intended to be used by the police/armed force then its thick armor and heavy weight seems reasonable but... is it a bike, actually? How large it is when you design Giga Cruiser?