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Title: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Goose on 13 October 2021, 21:52:52
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          BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
                      VALIDATED

Type/Model:    Gipper
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3060
Config:        V.T.O.L.
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          15 tons
Power Plant:   145 Leenex XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  172.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 259.2 km/h
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:     
  1 Small X-Pulse Laser
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

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Type/Model:    Gipper
Mass:          15 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  10 pts Standard               0      1.50
Engine:        145 XL Fusion                 2      2.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      1.25
    Cruise MP:  16
     Flank MP:  24
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0       .75
Crew: 1 Members                              0       .00
Rotor Equipment:  Main/Tail Rotors           0      1.50
Armor Factor:   24 pts Standard              0      1.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     2         10
   Left / Right Sides:        2        5/5
   Rear:                      2          3
   Rotor:                     2          1

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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1 Small X-Pulse Laser    Front    3          1      1.00
Infantry Bay             Body                1      1.00
Infantry Bay             Body                1      1.00
Infantry Bay             Body                1      1.00
Infantry Bay             Body                1      1.00
Infantry Bay             Body                1      1.00
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TOTALS:                           3          8     15.00
Items & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1,062,750 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    186 (old BV = 173)
Cost per BV:       5,713.71
Weapon Value:      9 / 9 (Ratio = .05 / .05)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 2;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 16V,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 1
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: VA;  Point Value: 2
                   Specials: tran5

 ;D

I'll blame some hot-headed Davionista for the small X-Pulse, but the real point was to see what kind'a balance between price and armor I could fudge up. :popcorn:
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Wolf72 on 20 October 2021, 21:00:05
why all separate bays?
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Goose on 21 October 2021, 13:31:43
It's a kludge (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-designs-rules/infantry-and-vehicle-spaces/msg1370507/#msg1370507) to address volume.
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Daryk on 21 October 2021, 18:52:02
If you combine some of those infantry bays, you'll have enough room for some flavor of Ferro, which is totally worth it (ALWAYS 2 points on the rotor...).
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Wolf72 on 21 October 2021, 19:34:17
It's a kludge (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-designs-rules/infantry-and-vehicle-spaces/msg1370507/#msg1370507) to address volume.

aha

also one of the conundrums facing vehicle minis ... how to show reasonable volume of vehicles.  I designed a combat chopper that has 9 tons of infantry space (max is 10 basic troopers per ton right? platoon size is usually 27, but I like 30 man platoons).  While it clocks in at 30 tons, I would imagine it would be a giant bumblebee of a target.  Compared the direct combat chopper at 25t with a main gun and 2 MGs, no need to have a big open space to hold people so it would be slimmer and 'denser'.

I'd totally be ok showing that though ... What do you mean that thing is only 30 tons! ... Same reason a camper might weigh a lot less than the truck that's pulling it, but the camper can sleep 5 people while that truck can't sleep any (ok, sure, fit some in, but not designed for it)
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Goose on 22 October 2021, 13:42:35
If you combine some of those infantry bays, you'll have enough room for some flavor of Ferro, which is totally worth it (ALWAYS 2 points on the rotor...).
But: No …
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Goose on 23 October 2021, 18:27:27
 :o https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42853/this-is-our-first-look-inside-a-ch-53k-king-stallion-fully-loaded-with-marines
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Daryk on 23 October 2021, 18:48:44
Heh... looks like the Taurians were right to go with platoons of 30...  ^-^
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: DOC_Agren on 23 October 2021, 23:56:54
aha

also one of the conundrums facing vehicle minis ... how to show reasonable volume of vehicles.  I designed a combat chopper that has 9 tons of infantry space (max is 10 basic troopers per ton right? platoon size is usually 27, but I like 30 man platoons).  While it clocks in at 30 tons, I would imagine it would be a giant bumblebee of a target.  Compared the direct combat chopper at 25t with a main gun and 2 MGs, no need to have a big open space to hold people so it would be slimmer and 'denser'.
you mean like the difference between
Huey (https://sanangelolive.com/sites/default/files/styles/facebook/public/media/article/huey01.jpg?itok=-avFVjVD) vrs Cobra (https://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/ah-1j_usmc_157784_2_flyingleathernecks2012.jpg)
Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: Wolf72 on 24 October 2021, 08:25:31
you mean like the difference between
Huey (https://sanangelolive.com/sites/default/files/styles/facebook/public/media/article/huey01.jpg?itok=-avFVjVD) vrs Cobra (https://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/ah-1j_usmc_157784_2_flyingleathernecks2012.jpg)

Yes! ... now just battletech-ize it into a 30t armored bumblebee! (which I believe is the newer King Stallion at 39t-ish ... )

Yikes, if I read the stats right it is 99 feet long, and 28 ft tall.  So, 30m by 9m -ish ... one hex long and as tall as a light mech! 

Title: Re: It Could Cost Them … The Sports Reference
Post by: DOC_Agren on 24 October 2021, 14:06:25
yep..  it not going to be that nice thin sleek attack bird like the Cobra...  more like a Halo (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/P1010525x.jpg)

But then again that how troop transports are...  big fat