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Lagrange

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Oracle
« on: 07 November 2011, 23:22:50 »
HPGs are precious: they are capable of interstellar communication radically faster than anything else, and they are super expensive, costing at least 1B in TacOps.

Given the high price, it's economically critical to use a low cost multiplier vehicle.  Given the enormous infrastructural value of the system, it's critical that it not be easily damaged.  A Jumpship (x1.25) is easily damaged.   A warship (x2) is somewhat tougher, but still easily tracked and damaged.  Buildings stay in one place, so their location can always be traced with time, and then they are easily destroyed.  The best approach I've been able to come up with is a support vehicle base submarine, along the following lines:

Oracle
3500 ton large naval vessel
Clan tech base
Cruise       9
Flank       14

Structure  32

Armor (BAR 10)
Turret      36
All others 38

Chassis: F, Submersible, Armored 1179
Engine: F, Fusion                           1339
8 Lifeboats                                        56
Quarters (32+4 free)                      320
Heat sinks                                         74
Armor (264 points)                            14
Mobile HPG                                        50
Communications Equipment              15
2 LAMS (turret)                                    2
2 ERLL (turret)                                     8
2 LRM-20+AV (turret)                         13
Ammo (24)                                           2
Turret                                                   3
Fire Control (Advanced)                       3
Active Probe                                        1
Angel ECM                                           2
Cargo                                              419

The cost is 1110M.  (That's a system cost only 11% higher than the cost of the HPG itself.)
BV: 3546

The Oracle is that it's placed in an ocean where it runs deep for several years.  The cargo includes 4 years of food and 4% spare parts and the luxury quarters for all should make life more viable.  Oceans are probably pretty common---in the Sol system, aside from Earth, moons like Europa plausibly have a suitable ocean beneath a not-too-thick ice cover. 

Most of the time, the Oracle simply handles a star system's HPG communications, including relays from elsewhere.  This mission is furthered with excellent communication gear.   

The ship has several nice capabilities which greatly enhance it's survivability in case someone wants to damage it or take it over.

The Oracle has a moderately anonymous location.  This is very easy for incoming conventional communication, because that can be broadcast over a large area.  It's harder for outgoing communication, but still feasible with various minor repeater station strategies.

Anonymity is pretty tough in general with HPG communications because they have a weak emergence wave.  Nevertheless, a kilometer of water should greatly dampen any emergence wave (the Oracle can dive to 1980 meters in 1g before crush checks become nontrivial).  For HPG reception, which has a much weaker signature, anonymity can plausibly be preserved.

Even when discovered by an enemy, it's difficult to damage.  Nothing except another large submarine can reach similar depths, and the Oracle's 9/14 move can outpace almost all submarines.

Even when an enemy sub manages to close, the 2 LRTs (with Artemis V) are a very credible offense.  And, even when the enemy manages to fire back, the Angel ECM and LAMS have a chance of zeroing out an incoming torpedo attack. 

The ERLL are not really intended for combat: instead they are intended for burrowing.  When encountering significant quantities of ice, the ERLL can break up and melt the ice in the vicinity of the Oracle, allowing it to slowly burrow.  This use implies that an Oracle could also embed itself 10km beneath the surface of an iceball moon, where it would take more than a typical nuke to damage it.

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Re: Oracle
« Reply #1 on: 29 January 2012, 01:40:37 »
You did realize Omni-Components don't have a cost multiplier?

Lagrange

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Re: Oracle
« Reply #2 on: 29 January 2012, 05:27:51 »
Omni components have at least the x1.25 Omni multiplier, right?  But, this is a good observation---how can it best be used?

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Re: Oracle
« Reply #3 on: 30 January 2012, 04:30:00 »
As far as I am aware the pods don't pay an increase, or at least the TM doesn't mention one

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Re: Oracle
« Reply #4 on: 11 February 2012, 09:49:05 »
Omni costs have been up many times on the forums. Unless there was a recent rules change SCC is right, the components doesn't have a cost multiplier. And neither do they have a vehicle cost multiplier, which means that in many cases an omni unit is cheaper than a non-omni unit since it can be bought with mech less costly equipment... ::)

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Re: Oracle
« Reply #5 on: 26 June 2012, 23:14:05 »
Sort of, if the 'Mech comes in a configuration you pay the cost Omni cost on the parts, it's the way the formula works, got no idea what happens if you buy the parts after-market

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Re: Oracle
« Reply #6 on: 27 June 2012, 02:23:49 »
Way to do thread necromancy... ^-^
Sort of, if the 'Mech comes in a configuration you pay the cost Omni cost on the parts, it's the way the formula works, got no idea what happens if you buy the parts after-market
A smart buyer will buy an omni in the cheapest possible configuration (preferably empty).

There was another discussion on it recently, about the cost of outfitting an omnimech with a full load of pods. It was argued that pods pay the full cost - including +25% for omni and the unit size modifier - meaning pods have to be bought for a maximum unit size. Meaning a pod for a 30-ton mech won't fit on a 35-ton mech, but will fit on a (IIRC) 60-ton tank... ::)

I don't agree with that, but I can sort of see the logic. But I just realized that if it applies to all equipment, it applies to all - including ammo!

That's right, a MG round bought for a Heavy Tracked APC can't be used by a Scorpion Tank - despite both vehicles using the same gun, manufactured in the same place! :o

 

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