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Title: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: PuppyLikesLaserPointers on 12 May 2022, 11:08:37
Well, I know small VTOL doesn't supports bycycle upgrade, but anyway a small VTOL can be a flying bike.

I have little idea for this so can you make something useful? I don't want something for combat(such as hover/VTOL bike for battle armor), but just want to see something for leisure. Since I have no experience for real bike so it is hard to imagine one. At first, how heavy is enough to be called for a bike??? Around 200~500kg?

I don't care for the cost, because who consider such a luxury should be able to pay for this anyways. Just... can you make it to have at least two seats?
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: wolfgar on 12 May 2022, 18:44:26
probably looking at a hover-bike, and around 1000Kg, will play with the idea later and see what i can come up with
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: PuppyLikesLaserPointers on 13 May 2022, 01:34:29
Thats... somewhat heavy? It seems that smaller car in our era are slightly lighter than a full ton. Although being hover/vtol can makes an excuse for this....
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: wolfgar on 13 May 2022, 19:50:34
alright, so it actually took about 1500Kg to do it right simply because the need for armor and fuel as well as being able to, you know, carry a PA(L) which is itself 400kg here's what i came up with:

Code: [Select]
PAL Hover bike 1-X
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>1.5 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Hover<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>86.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>129.6 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 2</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3035<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-E-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 5,548 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: PAL Hover bike
Chassis Type: Hover (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 1,500 kg
Battle Value: 10

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  413.00000000000006
Engine/Trans.                                     383.0
    Cruise MP:8
Flank MP:12
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               45.0
Armor Factor (BAR 2)          5                    65.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         1     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.194 tons)      1 Door   

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis, Bicycle Chassis and Controls Modifications


Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: PuppyLikesLaserPointers on 16 May 2022, 08:13:58
Well, can you ride it on the city without a problem?
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: PuppyLikesLaserPointers on 23 May 2022, 10:05:02
Then would these the viable sportcar? If 800~1,000 kg is fine then what about the heavy one among them?

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Serval Light Hoverbike (Standard)
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>0.14 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Hover<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> Fuel Cell<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>108 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>162 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 2</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3060<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> F/X-X-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 2,257 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Serval Light Hoverbike
Chassis Type: Hover (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 140 kg
Battle Value: 8

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                   58.0
Engine/Trans.                                      28.0
    Cruise MP:10
Flank MP:15
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                2.0
Armor Factor (BAR 2)          4                    44.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         1     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.003 tons)      1 Door   

Notes:
Features Bicycle, Ultra-Light, Convertible Chassis and Controls Modifications
Searchlight(5 kg)


Perhaps it would be similar with normal bike? With the weight?

Code: [Select]
Livia Urban Light Quadcopter (Standard)
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>0.31 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>VTOL<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> Battery<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>86.4 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 2</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3064<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> F/X-X-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 52,678 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Livia Urban Light Quadcopter
Chassis Type: VTOL (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 310 kg
Battle Value: 10

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  221.0
Engine/Trans.                                      15.0
    Cruise MP:5
Flank MP:8
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                3.0
Armor Factor (BAR 2)          4                    44.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         0     
     Rotor                   1         1     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.022 tons)      1 Door   

Notes:
Features Ultra-Light Chassis and Controls Modification
Searchlight(5 kg)


Perhaps, it may fit with the metropolis? Its maximum speed is not so high enough but hey, it is FLYING. I don't think that something flying that can hold up to two person needs to be so fast. And consider the advantage of flying it would be faster than most ground car anyways.


Code: [Select]
Phact Hoverbike (Standard)
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>0.52 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Hover<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> Fusion<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>216 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>324 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 4</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3085<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> F/X-X-F-E<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 15,281 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Phact Hoverbike
Chassis Type: Hover (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 520 kg
Battle Value: 12

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                   79.0
Engine/Trans.                                     263.0
    Cruise MP:20
Flank MP:30
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.0
Armor Factor (BAR 4)          4                    84.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         1     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.011 tons)      1 Door   

Notes:
Features Bicycle, Convertible, Ultra-Light Chassis and Controls Modifications
Armored Motive System(78 kg)
Searchlight(5 kg)


Well, can it call a bike? I think that the customers are who want to ride the 'bike' with high speed where no one gets hurts.... It would be dangerous, though.

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Olive Flier (Standard)
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>0.77 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>VTOL<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> Fusion<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>216 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>432 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 6</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3067<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> F/X-X-E-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 64,984 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Olive Flier
Chassis Type: VTOL (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 770 kg
Battle Value: 18

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  251.0
Engine/Trans.                                     312.0
    Cruise MP:20
Flank MP:30(40)
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.0
Armor Factor (BAR 6)          4                   128.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         0     
     Rotor                   1         1     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (Refrigerated) (0.009 tons)1 Door   
    Bay 2:  Cargo (0.032 tons)      1 Door   

Notes:
Features Ultra-Light Chassis and Controls Modification
VTOL Jet Booster(32 kg)
Searchlight(5 kg)


And... it seems that its weight is more than some small cars....
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: Auberan on 15 June 2022, 09:19:57
My current hoverbike design. It's a civilian version of a military bike that I use for mechanized infantry. I did it by hand, so there might be a mistake somewhere, but I'm pretty sure I'm spot on after the amount of civilian vehicles I've done for my game universe.

Aduu 600

Mass: 600 Kilograms
Tech Rating: C/C-C-C/B
Motive Type: Light Hover (Monocycle)(Motorcycle)
Production Year: 2793
Cost: 3,700

Power Plant: Karakorum FCE 250
Cruise Speed: 129.0 km/h
Flanking Speed: 194.0 km/h
Armor: Karakorum Standard (BAR 2)

Manufacturer: Bagatur Industries
    Primary Factory: Hongqiao


================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard (Monocycle)           C                    69.00kg
Engine:             Fuel-Cell                      C                   267.00kg
    Cruise MP:  12
    Flank MP:   18

Fuel: 1,000 km Range                                                    40.00kg
Control Equipment:                                                       0.00kg
Armor:              Carbide-Steel                BAR 2                  32.00kg

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     1       
                                          Left/Right    0/0
                                                Rear     1       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Standard Pillion (2)                          B        0         2     150.00kg
Cargo Space                                   B        0         1      42.00kg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                                       -        -         2     600.00kg
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: Daryk on 15 June 2022, 19:42:45
Can I just say that one wheel and two passengers is hilarious?  ;D
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: Auberan on 20 June 2022, 20:42:15
Whoops. I used an older sheet, so that should be motorcycle on it. Monocycle felt a bit cheesy, considering it's hover anyway.
Title: Re: Request: Hover/Flying Bikes?
Post by: PuppyLikesLaserPointers on 23 June 2022, 05:25:32
That seems quite useful despite of its very low cost.... Perhaps the slower version can be used for urban area as well.