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Matti

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SteamTech: vehicles
« on: 29 December 2011, 15:53:38 »
In previous forum I had posted designs of some Support Vehicles with steam engines. This topic reminded me about that. So here they are again!

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Type: APC
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Medium)
Mass: 25 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       5,0
Engine/Trans:           Steam           13,5
  Cruise MP:            4
  Flank MP:             6
Fuel:                   507 km          2,0
Turret:                                 0,5
Armor Factor (BAR 5):   23              1,5
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   3               6
R/L Side                3               5
Rear                    3               3
Turret                  3               4

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Machine Gun             Turret          0,5
Ammo (MG) 100           Body            0,5

Crew: 3 (2 + 1 gunner)                  0,5

Cargo
Infantry Compartment (1 ton), 1 door (rear)

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Type: Assault Gun
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Mass: 35 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       7,0
Engine/Trans:           Steam           13,0
  Cruise MP:            2
  Flank MP:             3
Fuel:                   512 km          2,0
Armor Factor (BAR 5):   47              3,0
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   4               13
R/L Side                4               12
Rear                    4               10

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Medium Rifle            Front           5,0
Machine Gun             Front           0,5
Ammo (Medium Rifle) 18  Body            2,0
Ammo (MG) 100           Body            0,5

Crew: 6 (2 + 3 gunners + 1 officer)     0,5

Cargo
Infantry Compartment (1 ton), 1 door (rear)
Cargo Bay (0,5 tons), 1 door (rear)

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Type: Large Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Mass: 60 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       12,0
Engine/Trans:           Steam           22,0
  Cruise MP:            2
  Flank MP:             3
Fuel:                   454 km          3,0
Turret:                                 1,0
Armor Factor (BAR 5):   103             6,5
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   10              22
R/L Side                10              21
Rear                    10              17
Turret                  10              22

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Light Rifle             Turret          3,0
Light Machine Gun       Turret          0,5
Medium Rifle            Front           5,0
Machine Gun             Front           0,5
Ammo (Medium Rifle) 27  Body            3,0
Ammo (Light Rifle) 36   Body            2,0
Ammo (MG) 100           Body            0,5
Ammo (Light MG) 100     Body            0,5

Crew: 9 (2 + 5 gunners + 2 officer)     1,0

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Type: Heavy Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Mass: 80 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       23,5
Engine/Trans:           Steam           29,5
  Cruise MP:            2
  Flank MP:             3
Fuel:                   338 km          3,0
Turret:                                 1,0
Armor Factor (BAR 8):   79              9,5
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   8               20
R/L Side                8               16
Rear                    8               10
Turret                  8               17

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Heavy Rifle             Turret          8,0
Machine Gun             Turret          0,5
Ammo (Heavy Rifle) 24   Body            4,0
Ammo (MG) 100           Body            0,5

Crew: 8 (2 + 4 gunners + 2 officers)    0,5

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Type: Main Battle Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Mass: 75 tons
Tech Rating: C

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       19,5
Engine/Trans:           Steam           38,5
  Cruise MP:            3
  Flank MP:             5
Fuel:                   346 km          4,0
Turret:                                 1,0
Armor Factor (BAR 8):   109             7,0
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   8               24
R/L Side                8               22
Rear                    8               18
Turret                  8               23

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Medium Rifle            Turret          5,0
Machine Gun             Turret          0,5
Machine Gun             Front           0,5
Ammo (Medium Rifle) 18  Body            2,0
Ammo (MG) 200           Body            1,0
Basic FCS               Body            0,5

Crew: 8 (2 + 4 gunners + 2 officer)     0,5

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Type: Main Battle Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Mass: 100 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       19,5
Engine/Trans:           Steam           59,5
  Cruise MP:            3
  Flank MP:             5
Fuel:                   224 km          4,0
Turret:                                 1,0
Armor Factor (BAR 5):   103             6,5
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   10              24
R/L Side                10              22
Rear                    10              15
Turret                  10              24

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Medium Rifle            Turret          5,0
Machine Gun             Turret          0,5
Machine Gun             Front           0,5
Ammo (Medium Rifle) 18  Body            2,0
Ammo (MG) 200           Body            1,0

Crew: 8 (2 + 4 gunners + 2 officer)     0,5

Code: [Select]
Type: Land Battleship
Chassis Type: Tracked (Large)
Mass: 200 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                               Mass
Chassis/Controls:                       65,0
Engine/Trans:           Steam           87,5
  Cruise MP:            1
  Flank MP:             2
Fuel:                   247 km          6,5
Turret:                                 1,5
Armor Factor (BAR 5):   198             12,5
                Internal        Armor
                        Structure       Value
Front                   8               44
R/L Side                8               40
Rear                    8               30
Turret                  8               44

Weapons and Ammo        Location        Mass
Medium Rifle            Turret          5,0
Medium Rifle            Turret          5,0
Light Rifle             Front           3,0
Light Rifle             Front           3,0
Rocket Launcher 10      Front           0,5
Rocket Launcher 10      Front           0,5
Rocket Launcher 10      Front           0,5
Rocket Launcher 10      Front           0,5
Heavy Machine Gun       Front           1,0
Light Machine Gun       Turret          0,5
Ammo (Medium Rifle) 27  Body            3,0
Ammo (Light Rifle)  36  Body            2,0
Ammo (Heavy MG) 50      Body            0,5
Ammo (Light MG) 100     Body            0,5

Crew: 18 (3 + 12 gunners + 3 officers)  1,5

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #1 on: 29 December 2011, 20:12:20 »
Oh by the gods do I love these vehicles!
"Any sufficiently rigorously defined magic is indistinguishable from technology."  - Larry Niven... far too appropriate at times here.

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #2 on: 31 December 2011, 03:44:02 »
These are awesome!!!
Their is no problem Jump Jets and an assault class auto-cannon can't handle.

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2012, 17:18:55 »
Need more examples... I wanna field these with some SteamTek Walkers!

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #4 on: 12 January 2012, 01:25:04 »
Need more examples...
Open up TechManual and start making. These are all I've made myself, and work (where I get paid) is killing me...
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #5 on: 18 January 2012, 18:26:44 »
Well at least I got to try...

 O0

But I do love these... I am creating another AU where SteamTek is alive... kinda if Crimson Skys and Monster in the Sky/Leviathans meet BT....

Nothing but Steampunk stuff circa 3090.... with a full TekTree!

The MD are really SteamBorgs!  :o

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #6 on: 14 February 2012, 02:34:24 »
there are a good number of steampunk sourse out there for good inspiration :)
« Last Edit: 17 February 2012, 08:47:01 by serack »

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #7 on: 16 February 2012, 07:57:48 »
there are a good number of steampunk sourse out there for god inspiration :)
God favors Steampunk? ???

Come to think of it, that might explain some things... ;D

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #8 on: 01 July 2012, 11:49:03 »
Sorry to resurrect this.  I had question regarding these support Steam engines.  Don't you need a seperate tank for water as well as actual fuel (coal, oil, etc)?  I looked at the TechManual, it didn't list anything like that.  Too detailed of issue?
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #9 on: 01 July 2012, 19:14:21 »
I do believe that it is all covered together and such.   No need to get ultra-detailed... perhaps a good chunk of the dead weight of the engine is the water in the boiler?   Who knows.   SteamTech vehicles will continue to trundle forward with the sights set on the horizon!
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #10 on: 02 July 2012, 06:35:55 »
Modern steam engines can often manage a very long distance without filling up on water, they use condensers to make the system essentially self-contained.

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #11 on: 08 June 2018, 12:46:05 »
I looked up this topic in order to link to it in another topic. And this post hit on my eye:

Sorry to resurrect this.  I had question regarding these support Steam engines.  Don't you need a seperate tank for water as well as actual fuel (coal, oil, etc)?  I looked at the TechManual, it didn't list anything like that.  Too detailed of issue?
I didn't forget it or anything. You just overlooked it. Copy-paste from Land Battleship:
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Fuel:                   247 km          6,5
6,5 tons that is.

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I probably should rename Assault Gun to Infantry Fighting Vehicle ::)
Or slap in more armor and take off the cargo capacity.
« Last Edit: 08 June 2018, 12:51:55 by Matti »
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #12 on: 08 June 2018, 13:00:49 »
Why does the idea of a steam-powered APC amuse me so

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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #13 on: 13 June 2018, 04:53:40 »
Steampunk meets Battletech.

Those are pretty neat upgrades.
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #14 on: 13 June 2018, 07:33:52 »
It's too bad that the twin turret thing not appliable to pre-spaceflight vehicles like the Land Battleship.  Then it be even MORE of a battleship.

Support Vehicle using steam be even more cool.
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #15 on: 15 June 2018, 09:56:49 »
I thought to check on to this topic, and new posts!

I probably should rename Assault Gun to Infantry Fighting Vehicle ::)
Or slap in more armor and take off the cargo capacity.
I think I remember what I was thinking with it. German assault gun Sturmgeschütz III used to carry combat engineers on its back (without protection), and they would dismount to engage enemy fortifications alongside with StuGs themselves. I have forgot where I read that...


It's too bad that the twin turret thing not appliable to pre-spaceflight vehicles like the Land Battleship.  Then it be even MORE of a battleship.
If you want a reason (or an excuse) to use these vehicles, crapsack world with poor technology and equally poor oil resources/industry would be ideal candidate for these vehicles.
« Last Edit: 15 June 2018, 10:00:05 by Matti »
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Re: SteamTech: vehicles
« Reply #16 on: 17 December 2018, 23:39:28 »
The Assault Gun is my favorite.  I thought of the Stug as well when I saw it.  I like to think one of the crewmen does nothing but shovel coal into the furnace.

Here's my amphibious landing craft.  Please attack it only with small arms.

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Type: Amphibious Landing Craft
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium) (Amphibious)
Mass: 25 tons
Tech Rating: B

Equipment                                    Mass
Chassis/Controls:                            9
Engine/Trans:           Steam                9.5
  Cruise MP:              2
  Flank MP:               3
Fuel:                   350 km               1

Armor Factor (BAR 2):   20                   1
                Internal       Armor
                        Structure      Value
Front                   3               12
R/L Side                3               10
Rear                    3               8


Weapons and Ammo                Location             Mass
Machine Gun                        Front             0.5
Ammo (MG) 100                      Body              0.5

Crew: 3 (2 + 1 gunner)                               0.5

Cargo
Infantry Compartment (3 tons), 1 door (rear)


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http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=52953.0