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Title: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 07 May 2021, 12:01:22
Hello, all-

I start a thread about the ELH fiction we're receiving this summer!  When I was a kid, the ELH were the unit I wanted to be in, you know?  So I'm excited about this, and can't see where it goes!

(Yes, I know this all sounds incredibly self-serving,  ;) but I really AM excited for this whole series!  :)

The first story in the series had an incredibly difficult task, to set up the whole future of the ELH, while also being its own great story; I think it nailed it.

I think Craig's story knocks it out of the park: while I had a suspicion the main character wouldn't shoot I wasn't 100% sure and that's a good thing!  I think its depiction of grief and rage was solid and overall, I enjoyed it!

Can't wait to see where it goes from here!
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Kibutsu on 12 May 2021, 23:01:50
I really enjoyed the first two stories and felt the same tension as you in the second story. That's good storytelling. Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Wrangler on 21 May 2021, 07:23:29
I've bought some of the stories, especially the pre-Succession War or about to accrue.  Their too darn short for me, i want a book!

I may wait getting rest of it when collection / anthology comes out.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Sharpnel on 21 May 2021, 07:37:08
I am waiting for the PoD Omnibus that is hopefully coming once all the stories are done (like Tukayyid and the Proliferation Cycle)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Septicemia on 24 May 2021, 20:18:38
The first story in the series had an incredibly difficult task, to set up the whole future of the ELH, while also being its own great story; I think it nailed it.

I really enjoyed the first two stories and felt the same tension as you in the second story. That's good storytelling. Looking forward to more.

Thanks!  I'm really glad you enjoyed "Conflicts of Interest."
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: DEZOAT on 04 June 2021, 07:11:55
 :bang: ??? ::) OK! I have part 1 and thinking of buying part 3 ,BUT WHERE IS part 2 and is that Craig Reed story. I look all over for part 2 but I can't find it . I need some help here.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: trboturtle on 04 June 2021, 09:24:52
:bang: ??? ::) OK! I have part 1 and thinking of buying part 3 ,BUT WHERE IS part 2 and is that Craig Reed story. I look all over for part 2 but I can't find it . I need some help here.

https://www.amazon.com/BattleTech-Tears-Eridani-Light-Chronicles-ebook/dp/B092HW6J1G/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&qid=1622816615&refinements=p_27%3ACraig+A.+Reed&s=digital-text&sr=1-3&text=Craig+A.+Reed (https://www.amazon.com/BattleTech-Tears-Eridani-Light-Chronicles-ebook/dp/B092HW6J1G/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&qid=1622816615&refinements=p_27%3ACraig+A.+Reed&s=digital-text&sr=1-3&text=Craig+A.+Reed)

Craig
(Late for a doctor's appointment...)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 04 June 2021, 21:26:26
I liked this one, showing how the ELH is striving to hold true to its ideals even as the Inner Sphere collapses around them.  Good Stuff!
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: FaithBomb on 04 June 2021, 21:49:17
Yeah, but what's wrong with a little bank robbery when it's Steiners you're ripping off?
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: DEZOAT on 05 June 2021, 08:04:02
 ;D Thank you sir for the link. trboturtle so it is your story.  ??? Question here why on Amazon? I go to the Cat store and wait for at least 3 or 4 items before I buy , which just did. I'll get your story it just I'm going to have to get other items there as well.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 05 June 2021, 21:29:42
Yeah, but what's wrong with a little bank robbery when it's Steiners you're ripping off?

Almost a victimless crime! hahaha
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Marveryn on 06 June 2021, 23:30:51
just finish the 3rd book, i know understand the steiner being job jokes.  While the story was OK, i just couldn't get into it.  It was too short and paint by numbers type of story.  Much like the rest of the light horse so far.  maybe i am getting jaded. 
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Dragon Cat on 12 June 2021, 16:36:05
I've just finished the second one.  I left a review on Amazon stating I knew the Eridani Light Horses but I really don't.

I've read the unit histories and what they've done over the years then you read these books and suddenly you understand just how brutal the earlier fights or the BattleTech universe were and what... had to be done

Both stories sucked me in and I couldn't put it down until I was done.  Both stories worked for me and I liked the length and characters

I loved the fact that the first story they refused to kill them all then the next one became more personal different stakes and showed if you push someone you'll get a reaction
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: trboturtle on 12 June 2021, 17:44:45
I've just finished the second one.  I left a review on Amazon stating I knew the Eridani Light Horses but I really don't.

I've read the unit histories and what they've done over the years then you read these books and suddenly you understand just how brutal the earlier fights or the BattleTech universe were and what... had to be done

Both stories sucked me in and I couldn't put it down until I was done.  Both stories worked for me and I liked the length and characters

I loved the fact that the first story they refused to kill them all then the next one became more personal different stakes and showed if you push someone you'll get a reaction

Looking at Battletech history, every time a mercenary unit's dependants were killed, the results for the people doing it are not good......

Wolf's Dragoons and Hansen's Roughriders come to mind....

Craig
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Marveryn on 13 June 2021, 00:05:04
Looking at Battletech history, every time a mercenary unit's dependants were killed, the results for the people doing it are not good......

Wolf's Dragoons and Hansen's Roughriders come to mind....

Craig

You would think of some point someone would stop trying to hold family hostages.  the only one that work that i know of so far was the 21 century lancer who dependents were held hostage so the word could take there place
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 13 June 2021, 13:19:32
Looking at Battletech history, every time a mercenary unit's dependants were killed, the results for the people doing it are not good......

Wolf's Dragoons and Hansen's Roughriders come to mind....

Craig

or that Lyran Guard unit I saw in FM:LA this morning whlle I was skimming it, lemme pull it up on PDF to find out which one ... ok, so I don't have it?  Odd!  Ok, lemme go to the store and WHY IS THIS STILL NOT AVAILABLE?? GAHHH???

-sigh-

ok, so, yeah, it happened to a Lyran unit once, too -I PROMISE-  :D :D ;D
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 08 August 2021, 16:05:47
Mendrugo just read the last ELH story and is like, "CRIMENY HANSA, I have to REORGANIZE, like, HALF of the Succession Wars chronological pages now!"  ;) ;D

(for the record, this slides in EXACTLY after Chapter 2 of "Warrior: Coupe," like a Chapter 2.5... )
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Marveryn on 15 August 2021, 05:36:55
Mendrugo just read the last ELH story and is like, "CRIMENY HANSA, I have to REORGANIZE, like, HALF of the Succession Wars chronological pages now!"  ;) ;D

(for the record, this slides in EXACTLY after Chapter 2 of "Warrior: Coupe," like a Chapter 2.5... )

reading the account of the latest Light horse book. (there no we in mercenary)  Overall i enjoy the story, it was basic one long battle but told as a debriefing.  the events of the battle was not something i was aware of previously so to me it was just a little nice backstory of what had happen including how the light horse manage to push a warrior house off world but still retaining  combat stregth.  It also show how Comstar had gotten some of the event wrong.  The only thing going by the note mention in another thread if they had reported the death of winston.  Perhaps don't mention he survive in the middle of the battle.   Of course you couldn't hide that he was still alive since he was the one giving the debriefing, but as far as comstar intel has to know they got to think he had died when he didn't and that had to be reported in the battlefiend at some point.  Overall an enjoayble read
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Mendrugo on 19 August 2021, 07:32:32
Mendrugo just read the last ELH story and is like, "CRIMENY HANSA, I have to REORGANIZE, like, HALF of the Succession Wars chronological pages now!"  ;) ;D

(for the record, this slides in EXACTLY after Chapter 2 of "Warrior: Coupe," like a Chapter 2.5... )

The reorganizing wouldn't be so much of a pain if it weren't for the per-post character limit. 
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 10 October 2021, 22:35:53
Story seven is up on Amazon, and I really kinda liked it.  talking to Alan about his plot a few months ago, I thought this was going to be tenser and all grr-grr-grr but it was a quiet little world-builder.  I honestly feel like, once the ELH campaign is done, this would be a wonderful little story to post for free on amazon and on the Catalyst home page / downloads page, etc., as a "taste" of the universe (alongside other stories with more shooting) to show the humans and the humanity behind the Mechs.

good stuff!

I will note that's 2 stories in a row someone's woken up with a hangover. Hmm, I wonder if the next story will give us the hat trick...   8) ;D
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Hotham on 11 October 2021, 02:09:51
Story seven is up on Amazon, and I really kinda liked it.  talking to Alan about his plot a few months ago, I thought this was going to be tenser and all grr-grr-grr but it was a quiet little world-builder.  I honestly feel like, once the ELH campaign is done, this would be a wonderful little story to post for free on amazon and on the Catalyst home page / downloads page, etc., as a "taste" of the universe (alongside other stories with more shooting) to show the humans and the humanity behind the Mechs.

good stuff!

I will note that's 2 stories in a row someone's woken up with a hangover. Hmm, I wonder if the next story will give us the hat trick...   8) ;D

It was good. I expect nothing less from Alan Brundage. I would describe View from the Ground as a slice-of-life story. It can be read as a standalone, but unless the reader is familiar with BattleTech events, the foreboding foreshadow at the end will not land.

Brundage manage give me a gut punch without having any on screen characters deaths or a climatic battle.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 11 October 2021, 07:31:59
It was good. I expect nothing less from Alan Brundage. I would describe View from the Ground as a slice-of-life story. It can be read as a standalone, but unless the reader is familiar with BattleTech events, the foreboding foreshadow at the end will not land.

Brundage manage give me a gut punch without having any on screen characters deaths or a climatic battle.
you mean how the ELH doesn't make it, or was she in a different, later story?
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Hotham on 11 October 2021, 14:47:58
you mean how the ELH doesn't make it, or was she in a different, later story?

I'm referring to the characters hopes that the Second Star League will bring more years of peace to the Inner Sphere. Many of us know that the FedCom Civil War is about to kick off which leads to the disbandment of the new League.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 11 October 2021, 19:57:04
I'm referring to the characters hopes that the Second Star League will bring more years of peace to the Inner Sphere. Many of us know that the FedCom Civil War is about to kick off which leads to the disbandment of the new League.

ah. what I thought, but thought I'd check. :-)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Jaim Magnus on 11 October 2021, 20:30:58
Story seven is up on Amazon, and I really kinda liked it.  talking to Alan about his plot a few months ago, I thought this was going to be tenser and all grr-grr-grr but it was a quiet little world-builder.  I honestly feel like, once the ELH campaign is done, this would be a wonderful little story to post for free on amazon and on the Catalyst home page / downloads page, etc., as a "taste" of the universe (alongside other stories with more shooting) to show the humans and the humanity behind the Mechs.

good stuff!

I will note that's 2 stories in a row someone's woken up with a hangover. Hmm, I wonder if the next story will give us the hat trick...   8) ;D

It was good. I expect nothing less from Alan Brundage. I would describe View from the Ground as a slice-of-life story. It can be read as a standalone, but unless the reader is familiar with BattleTech events, the foreboding foreshadow at the end will not land.

Brundage manage give me a gut punch without having any on screen characters deaths or a climatic battle.

Oh wow. Thanks, guys. :)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Marveryn on 23 October 2021, 00:29:03
well finish the latest of the stories, view from the ground.  Like all the light horse stories this one feature a slice of life moment of a new mech lance just reform and the hope and dream of its mechwarriors on the new star league.  Hindsight being what it is we , the reader know how it turns out but for the people on the ground it was about the uncertainly if the experiment will work.  The event of the story seem to take place right after Operation Serpent and right to the change of the new elected  first lord Theodore. 

it was short and sweet and i found myself intrigue a bit on the characters but like all these story just too sure to get completely invested just enough to hold your attention.  It was also the first time i seen a battlehawk being use in fictions that am aware of.  So yeah for that
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 12 November 2021, 18:04:59
latest story is up!

https://books2read.com/BattleTechELH8NoDustNoWear (https://books2read.com/BattleTechELH8NoDustNoWear)

it's my second one, I'm really proud of it, and to keep this thread focused on general discussion, I'll talk about the writing process in the other thread.

Hope you enjoy!
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 12 November 2021, 18:07:33
for the record, my wife's review:
W: "why is there so much talking? it's battletech, where are the battles?"

Me: "There's 2 in there, technically!  i warned you, though, this was my 'small and quiet' story, the first one was my 'big and loud' one."

w: "now, i -liked- that one.  action from start to finish!"

but this is what I love about BTech fiction: there's something out there for EVERYONE, and one story doesn't float your boat, the next one probably will.  :) :)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 12 November 2021, 18:10:34
latest story is up!

https://books2read.com/BattleTechELH8NoDustNoWear (https://books2read.com/BattleTechELH8NoDustNoWear)

it's my second one, I'm really proud of it, and to keep this thread focused on general discussion, I'll talk about the writing process in the other thread.

Hope you enjoy!

I loved it!  It really fleshed out the story.  I'd been wondering about since the first little news snippets in the Jihad sourcebooks.  Thanks!+

Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 12 November 2021, 22:38:23
I loved it!  It really fleshed out the story.  I'd been wondering about since the first little news snippets in the Jihad sourcebooks.  Thanks!+
You're welcome!  They wanted either a Deiron based one or Huntress, and I was really intrigued by the idea of writing about them in Clan Space
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: DarkISI on 13 November 2021, 05:07:03
for the record, my wife's review:
W: "why is there so much talking? it's battletech, where are the battles?"

Me: "There's 2 in there, technically!  i warned you, though, this was my 'small and quiet' story, the first one was my 'big and loud' one."

w: "now, i -liked- that one.  action from start to finish!"

but this is what I love about BTech fiction: there's something out there for EVERYONE, and one story doesn't float your boat, the next one probably will.  :) :)

Obviously, she hasn't read Failings in Teaching ;)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 13 November 2021, 16:41:57
yeah, she doesn't read much battletech, and she's 50/50 on MINE! hahaha

Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: lobezno on 16 November 2021, 06:26:39
Hi, first: congrats on the short Novel! Its always nice to see events from the sourcebooks fleshed out from the characters point of view.

I think you mentioned that the initial draft was much longer. Can you tell what was cut out and how difficult it was?

Also, where are the brooding, necrosia drinking, vision chasing, slightly crazy Goliath Scorpion we have always heard of :-).
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 16 November 2021, 13:56:35
Thanks for the kind words!

In another thread, I've been discussing the actual WRITING of both stories, and you can find a few snippets and discussions of what I cut.

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/novel-and-sourcebook-reviews/writing-elh-fiction/ (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/novel-and-sourcebook-reviews/writing-elh-fiction/)

I don't know about the dour, necrosia slamming scorpions, I'm sure they're right off screen, right there to the left!  ;) ;D

No, seriously, I love that every faction in BattleTech is big enough for wider lenses: if I ever come up with a good venom & seeker story, I'll totally write it and it'll fit right in, you know?  But the factions are big enough - or in this case, small enough - to explore a tiny, quiet little story really focused on just two women. :-)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 18 November 2021, 17:20:28
I like how you humanized the characters.   And the trials were cleverly conceived.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 19 November 2021, 11:05:55
I like how you humanized the characters.   And the trials were cleverly conceived.

Thanks!

The references were a little unclear on whether they were "official" trials and whether zellbringing was used, and etc., so, I split the difference: this was an oddly offered challenge, and with non-lethal aspects to match up with the oddness in the references.  But it was honorably offered and honorably accepted, which is the important part of clan trials.  :)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: J_Schmetzer on 18 December 2021, 20:56:31
Just putting the Amazon link here, in case you all were waiting.


https://amzn.to/3sqj2nU
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 18 December 2021, 20:59:24
Whoot!! thanks!!  I've been checking about every other day!
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 19 December 2021, 04:01:46
Got it, read it, enjoyed it.  Haven't reviewed yet.  Not the viewpoint character I was expecting.

Did we see this battle from the other side in one of the novels?
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: DarkISI on 19 December 2021, 05:18:59
That one was a downer.
But a good one.

I think we had the battle occur in "A Bonfire of Worlds"
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 19 December 2021, 18:42:18
Yeah, I dig it.  A quiet little story that didn't focus on the bigger picture, the outside universe, the Light Horse unit as this THING; it was just about one LT and her friend in the unit and her experiences.

It was a super-tight POV on her, and it works.  Really good stuff! :-)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: MyndkryM on 28 December 2021, 23:34:16
Just finished Strong As Steel!!!

Guidons Guidons Guidons

Thanks to all the writers for this series. It has been a joy to read!!!

Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 28 December 2021, 23:50:24
That was a good story.  I forgot they always left battalions behind to watch the families and I'd assumed they'd died on Dieron with the 21st Striker and 19th Cavalry.

So the various "splinters" of the ELH were from the 10% that didn't die on Dieron?
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: MyndkryM on 29 December 2021, 00:16:43
The ELH Unit Digest entry in Shrapnel #1 fills in some of that information. The short answer appears to be yes...the Dieron survivors would reform various commands each later vying for a claim, and concurrently an authorized reconstitution contingency (in this case the 11th Recon Bn.).
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 29 December 2021, 15:59:48
Thanks!  I'll go re-read that one.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Marveryn on 31 December 2021, 13:13:46
not keeping up with the history as well as i could.  I never notice that the light horse were now a bunch of strong out units of survivors that are keeping up the name going and from the reading of the last light novel the units in the commonwealth may had just a big a claim to the name as the units feature in this story. It be interesting to see how the big the group is now that they are remerging again from what i gather each command may had been at least a company if not a battalion of battlemech with a combine group of amor and infantry to get them to regimental status.  Even if they link they are going to have issue combining their resources before they first see actions, but with the funds finally avaible any holes most likely will be fill

it also solve Davion issue.  they need troops and they need them fast.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 01 January 2022, 23:31:44
That was a good story.  I forgot they always left battalions behind to watch the families and I'd assumed they'd died on Dieron with the 21st Striker and 19th Cavalry.

So the various "splinters" of the ELH were from the 10% that didn't die on Dieron?

Yes- The units on Dieron were the ones assigned to watch the dependents, but every unit always has a small HQ element to stay at base and be a liaison for their dependents, to push replacements forward, or, if tragedy strikes, to notify their dependents that someone has fallen.

That's what happened with the 11tth: the battalion itself was absorbed by the Scorpions, but their commander (probably one of the highest ranked of the remaining 10%) reformed the Battalion.

I'm assuming many of the other small units have similar stories: perhaps a lance detached for a recon mission, perhaps a pair of married MechWarriors on their honeymoon: small groups of survivors here and there holding tight to tradition and carrying on.

I really liked this story, if it's not coming through in my post: I think this story very much captured that spirit of the ELH shown through all the stories beforehand, and how a LOT of the small groups of survivors refused to let it die.  It's no surprise a few of the units decided not to rejoin: it's been 70+ years at this point, nearly all of the old timers would be dead and units are creating their own, new history.

But for the majority, they carried the ELH traditions with them, and survived, prospered, and for the most part, did well by the legacy.  And now they're reforming together.

I liked it.  A solid conclusion to a FINE anthology. :)
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 01 January 2022, 23:33:19
double post
ignore this, it double posted, I don't know why
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 02 January 2022, 00:09:15
Yes- The units on Dieron were the ones assigned to watch the dependents, but every unit always has a small HQ element to stay at base and be a liaison for their dependents, to push replacements forward, or, if tragedy strikes, to notify their dependents that someone has fallen.

That's what happened with the 11tth: the battalion itself was absorbed by the Scorpions, but their commander (probably one of the highest ranked of the remaining 10%) reformed the Battalion.

I'm assuming many of the other small units have similar stories: perhaps a lance detached for a recon mission, perhaps a pair of married MechWarriors on their honeymoon: small groups of survivors here and there holding tight to tradition and carrying on.

I really liked this story, if it's not coming through in my post: I think this story very much captured that spirit of the ELH shown through all the stories beforehand, and how a LOT of the small groups of survivors refused to let it die.  It's no surprise a few of the units decided not to rejoin: it's been 70+ years at this point, nearly all of the old timers would be dead and units are creating their own, new history.

But for the majority, they carried the ELH traditions with them, and survived, prospered, and for the most part, did well by the legacy.  And now they're reforming together.

I liked it.  A solid conclusion to a FINE anthology. :)

The next story: ELH: The Rear-D.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 02 January 2022, 13:56:47
The next story: ELH: The Rear-D.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Real talk, man, I was told by the S1 as I was coming to a unit they were deploying and the BDE CDR was trying to decide to bring me on trail party or leave me as rear-D commander and I LITERALLY said, "I'd prefer to go with the unit downrange."

Got off the phone and looked at wife: "I'm sorry babe, but Rear-D?"
She said: "I get it."  :) ;D ;D
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: mikecj on 02 January 2022, 14:30:26
AGREED!
I've dodged it each time.  I even talked myself into Torch/ADVON twice to make sure they couldn't change their minds!

My wife gets it too.

That would be a hell of a Shrapnel story... Tales of the Rear-D.  And we could fill it with real events just changing names, and nobody'd believe it was all true.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Demon55 on 07 February 2022, 12:33:15
Is there a way to get them in paperback?  I am only seeing kindle. 
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: DarkISI on 07 February 2022, 12:35:18
Is there a way to get them in paperback?  I am only seeing kindle. 

Soon(ish). No exact date given, but a compilation is forthcoming.
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: Demon55 on 07 February 2022, 18:41:06
Soon(ish). No exact date given, but a compilation is forthcoming.

That is good to read. 
Title: Re: ELH Fiction
Post by: five_corparty on 19 March 2022, 13:13:08
The ELH compilation is out in paperback- one of the neat things is, they put images of the Battlemechs after each story, like they used to do back in the old novels!  very fun and cool!