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Camacho's Caballeros?
« on: 01 October 2020, 18:41:06 »
Hi there. I am reading DRT, the second book of the Rose series. I am not enjoying it much. I did enjoy several of the battlecorps compilations, the first book (main event) of this unit and the first book of the chaos irregulars. I also.lioed the 2 books of the GDL I read.

Are the Camacho's Caballeros enjoyable?

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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #1 on: 01 October 2020, 19:07:30 »
Close quarters, hearts of chaos, black dragon. I haven’t read them but I’ve heard mixed reviews

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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #2 on: 01 October 2020, 19:12:55 »
I HAVE read them. Victor Milan wrote some fun books. There up and done.  Its pulp scifi fiction.
Its not 2D characters with these books.  Arguably most lively Battletech books of the original FASA Books.
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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2020, 19:18:38 »
I found them to be some of the best of the Battletech novels. But they are a bit different than the Stackpole big picture stuff. If you're looking for Sphere wide action and politics, these aren't it. But if you want to follow a mid-sized unit over several years, or to find out about the Combine outside of the samurai, then you might enjoy them.
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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2020, 22:05:12 »
I really like them, and they’re better than Milan’s later Dark Age fiction too.
But like the above comments mention, they’re different to most other BT fiction - but in a good way.
Fleshed out characters, great action scenes with a twist of Hollywood style shoot outs and martial arts hijinx with a good dash of camp samurai/ninja stylings.

I highly recommend!


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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #5 on: 02 October 2020, 01:40:04 »
Sold. I do not like stackpole much, really.
Thanks! Heading to the Kindle store now
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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #6 on: 02 October 2020, 02:09:42 »
I HAVE read them. Victor Milan wrote some fun books. There up and done.  Its pulp scifi fiction.
Its not 2D characters with these books.  Arguably most lively Battletech books oc the original FASA Books.
And they feature my favorite Mary Sue character, Cassie Suthorn.
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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #7 on: 02 October 2020, 08:33:27 »
And they feature my favorite Mary Sue character, Cassie Suthorn.
She indeed is, but in a very good way.  I like her really, she has some serious depth to her.  I wish Milan had continued to write up about the character and the rest of the crew of the 17th Recon Regiment aka Camacho's Caballeros.   I'm grateful that he was included a short story about Suthorn's first years with the unit in the The 25 Years of Arts and Fiction.  Not as lively as previous books, but its nice prequel like thing for her.

Personally i like all the characters and some of the creative things I've read in BattleTech books without making it super unrealistic. Its a joy to read.
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Re: Camacho's Caballeros?
« Reply #8 on: 25 October 2020, 21:44:14 »
I like the CC books because they're written by a master of sci-fi: say what you will about the, uhh, battletechyness of them, they're TECHNICALLY great books to read- for me, that's important. :-)

I also like them as stories: almost every character has depth and motivations, reasons for what they do that isn't plot-level deep.  His mastery of his women leads could be the topic for an entire MFA paper.

And the battletech stuff... ain't that bad, really!  :-)  it's OLD school, right when BattleTech was having this kinda... shift... in both the universe and how it was portrayed, from 3025 tech-short armies to professional regiments fielding state-sponsed Mechs.  in the middle of all that madness comes a regiment of cowboys broadcasting live at station KATN on your FM dial. (in-story joke)

nah, they're worth the read, and if you're a writer or want to be one, then they're worth a second read with a pencil in hand to underline the parts he does well for further study. :-)  enjoy!
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