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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1200 on: 05 August 2022, 19:30:39 »
Hilarious!  ;D

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1201 on: 06 August 2022, 15:24:30 »
This video isn't really about AFVs, per se, and it includes CAS, but there are some MRAPs in view... ::)



https://youtu.be/YDvugsSjI6s

From:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/heres-bad-idea-snipe-u-s-army/

"It's not going to be okay...they don't know what's about to hit them."

"They don't think we can harm them...they just haven't fought us, yet."

I'm not gonna lie, I love the infantry mindset.

I hope this video shows that even once the shooting starts, there is often a lot of standing around by the guys on the ground. ;D

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1202 on: 06 August 2022, 15:33:20 »
Interesting video, thanks F16!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1203 on: 14 August 2022, 18:13:46 »
Cheers.

Gamers like tanks, often enough. And, often enough, they like LEGOs too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIy9n_nnXAo

So how about small-scale LEGO AFVs? Great while you wait for the Battlefield Support Boxes to start coming out.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1204 on: 14 August 2022, 18:22:06 »
That's a great video!  Thanks for sharing F16!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #1205 on: 17 August 2022, 13:12:42 »
Gamers like tanks, often enough. And, often enough, they like LEGOs too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIy9n_nnXAo

So how about small-scale LEGO AFVs? Great while you wait for the Battlefield Support Boxes to start coming out.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1206 on: 27 August 2022, 09:30:23 »
Mayhaps.

Have a reasonable discussion on AFV situational awareness:

https://www.tanknology.co.uk/post/afv-sa

It is well to note that many game designs ignore or gloss over the fact that AFVs don't move around like passenger cars in the suburbs. At best, they are more akin to tractor-trailers in a parking garage. On a time crunch. In a dust storm. With people trying to blow them up.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1207 on: 27 August 2022, 10:30:10 »
Fascinating read, thanks F16!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1208 on: 11 September 2022, 03:29:43 »
Comparison of AF and Navy aircraft landing reminded me of this gem about unloading tanks from the train

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSpWpkSVY1U&t=2s
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1209 on: 11 September 2022, 06:53:51 »
Hilarious!  :D

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« Reply #1210 on: 11 September 2022, 20:13:22 »
Nice. Gotta love those UMOs.

Gotta love those crazy WarPac tankers, too. They weren't worried about their suspension bars or boresights because they figured they'd be flaming coffins by noon--or broken down on the way to the release point, so they wouldn't be flaming coffins. Smart, comrades, veeery smart.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1211 on: 12 September 2022, 13:31:24 »
That sounds like an " Ask Gorky " pun...

Hey Gorky? How do you get your tank off a train?

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1212 on: 12 September 2022, 15:00:43 »
"In Soviet Russia, tank unloads train!" ;D

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« Reply #1213 on: 12 September 2022, 19:29:47 »
Got to love the Russians and doing everything as easy as possible.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1214 on: 12 September 2022, 19:30:56 »
Easy for some, HARD for everybody else...  ::)

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1215 on: 12 September 2022, 20:35:55 »
Would they sink their train to offload wet navy?  ??? :P

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1216 on: 12 September 2022, 22:00:51 »
That sounds like an " Ask Gorky " pun...

Hey Gorky? How do you get your tank off a train?

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« Reply #1217 on: 12 September 2022, 22:22:20 »
Have some Nicholas Moran critiquing tank-movie scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mjvZrLnlCg

Because he is Nick Moran, of course he chose The Beast as his favorite tank movie, with Fury as runner up. I love that man.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1218 on: 13 September 2022, 00:00:16 »
Have some Nicholas Moran critiquing tank-movie scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mjvZrLnlCg

Because he is Nick Moran, of course he chose The Beast as his favorite tank movie, with Fury as runner up. I love that man.

Oh, has he retired from the army now? He mentioned being a civilian advisor now without mentioning still being in the military in the beginning.

Also, the score for Indiana Jones seems low considering the commentary :P
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« Reply #1219 on: 13 September 2022, 12:18:00 »
Because he is Nick Moran, of course he chose The Beast as his favorite tank movie, with Fury as runner up. I love that man.

Not sure I really agree about Fury, but each to their own.

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« Reply #1220 on: 13 September 2022, 14:50:24 »
Oh, has he retired from the army now? He mentioned being a civilian advisor now without mentioning still being in the military in the beginning.

Also, the score for Indiana Jones seems low considering the commentary :P
So far as I understand, he's still in the Reserves and his day job is Wargaming USA.
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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1221 on: 13 September 2022, 19:37:00 »
The Beast is a deep pick, but TOTALLY respect that!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1222 on: 13 September 2022, 20:03:16 »
Not sure I really agree about Fury, but each to their own.

Damon.

The set-up for the movie's bulwark scenes could have been very easily improved, thus increasing its overarching believability.  But the interplay between the characters is top-notch and the ambiance it imparts is beyond question (touches like Pitt lowering the aerials at the beginning hooked me, no lie). Every character I saw in that movie was someone I met in the Army. And besides, I don't watch war movies for the shooting, I watch it for the quiet moments. (Doesn't everyone else?) Fury did those part better than most since Saving Private Ryan, Gardens of Stone, Band of Brothers, and Blackhawk Down (the latter including the irritating hooahness of Rangers and the dismissal of 2-14 INF who did save their collective asses, and who did suffer men wounded and killed in the process).

Anyone who has served in the combat arms or engaged in combat itself--or even good, realistic training--(and this includes all services, not just infantry and tankers) knows that most combat scenes are naff, and even when they are not, often the setups to get there are.

But, like Moran states, Fury--as well as The Beast--got what counted right: the tank crew.

The Beast is a deep pick, but TOTALLY respect that!  :thumbsup:

One of my favorite movies, definitely near the top.
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
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« Reply #1223 on: 13 September 2022, 21:00:36 »
Just let me know when we can set up a watch of that movie!  It's been a long time since I first saw it but I'd cheerfully watch it again, especially with you!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #1224 on: 13 September 2022, 22:06:54 »
Got that bad boy on DVD since I killed the VHS.

Any time, brother. Just go TDY to MacDill again.

Or buy that house Upstate and I'll come template you some nice granite countertops...!
Thought I might get a rocket ride when I was a child.          We are the wild youth, 
But it was a lie, that I told myself                                          Chasing visions of our futures.
When I needed something good.                                            One day we'll reveal the truth,
At 17, I had a better dream; now I'm 33, and it isn't me.        That one will die before he gets there.

But I'd think of something better if I could
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« Reply #1225 on: 14 September 2022, 03:16:42 »
My wife DOES want to redo the kitchen, so definitely!  8)

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Re: Armored Fighting Vehicles Version M5 (it is a tradition now)
« Reply #1226 on: 14 September 2022, 03:31:12 »
Some recent pictures of armoured vehicles ...







These were all abandoned in the last few days. But older images ...







... show surprising amounts of rusting. Now does modern (or modern Soviet-era) armour plate rust? Do modern armour crews spend a lot of time chipping rust and repainting?  Certainly not something I recall seeing in pictures of abandoned or brewed-up WW2 armour.
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« Reply #1227 on: 14 September 2022, 03:33:46 »
Burned out vehicles rust immediately.
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« Reply #1228 on: 14 September 2022, 03:35:12 »
Is that a direct consequence of the exothermic reaction of brewing up, or does removal of the protective paint layer cause this? I would have expected modern armour alloys to be stainless ....
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« Reply #1229 on: 14 September 2022, 07:07:43 »
I read some time ago that it is a consequence of paint reacting to extreme heat
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