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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #420 on: 14 November 2022, 14:37:49 »
Well technically Tom Baker was first even if it was a cameo.  Just saying.

Technically he played the Doctor and the Caretaker. Not the same. :)

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #421 on: 14 November 2022, 17:41:50 »
Technically he played the Doctor and the Caretaker. Not the same. :)

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The implication was that the Curator WAS the Doctor. 

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #422 on: 14 November 2022, 18:40:45 »
He is the first actor to play 2 doctors. 10th AND 14th. Officially.

Actually, it’s technically 3 Doctors. 10, 10.5, and 14. (Or 11, 11.5 and 15, if we call the War Doctor an official Doctor).

Remember that the regeneration into the Matt Smith Doctor was officially his 12th regeneration and required a new regeneration cycle be given to the Doctor to be able to regenerate to the Capaldi Doctor prior to the revelation of the Timeless Child. So, even though he avoided taking a new form by transferring the excess regeneration energy into his severed hand after healing his current body, it still counted as an official regeneration.

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #423 on: 14 November 2022, 20:14:27 »
The implication was that the Curator WAS the Doctor.

Took a new name thus no longer the Doctor. Just like the War Doctor doesn't have a number but still has a regeneration.

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #424 on: 14 November 2022, 20:14:58 »
Actually, it’s technically 3 Doctors. 10, 10.5, and 14. (Or 11, 11.5 and 15, if we call the War Doctor an official Doctor).

Fair point.

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #425 on: 15 November 2022, 08:51:51 »
I think we can safely assume that 1st Doctor is when he started to call himself The Doctor and all versions before they started to didn't call themselves The Doctor. Sorry if anyone is angered by me taking Chibnail's addition to lore into account instead of ignoring those but I don't share that opinion that those should be ignored or have any dislike towards those.   
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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #426 on: 15 November 2022, 10:29:35 »
I think Chibanil's contribution upended everything we think we know and shouldn't be discounted but I don't disagree that, as far as we know the Doctor started with Hartnell. For all we know Jo Martin's Doctor could be either an earlier one OR a much later one that lost their memory from... old age.

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #427 on: 15 November 2022, 11:20:30 »
I think we can safely assume that 1st Doctor is when he started to call himself The Doctor and all versions before they started to didn't call themselves The Doctor. Sorry if anyone is angered by me taking Chibnail's addition to lore into account instead of ignoring those but I don't share that opinion that those should be ignored or have any dislike towards those.

It's a fandom, we're ALL going to disagree.  (the fact that your fans HAVE those kind of debates is a sign of a healthy franchise-nobody debates franchises that failed.)

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #428 on: 15 November 2022, 12:00:24 »
I think we can safely assume that 1st Doctor is when he started to call himself The Doctor and all versions before they started to didn't call themselves The Doctor. Sorry if anyone is angered by me taking Chibnail's addition to lore into account instead of ignoring those but I don't share that opinion that those should be ignored or have any dislike towards those.

What most accept as the First Doctor was William Hartnell’s version. However, the Jo Martin version came before, and also called herself “The Doctor”, and is also possibly the one who had their memory wiped around the time they were regenerated to a child to become Hartnell’s Doctor.

My thought is that the Jo Martin Doctor (possibly more before her) were partially responsible for the legends that the Hartnell Doctor used to take on the name (and add to the legend). This also allows for the term “The Doctor” to become known as “Great Warrior” in the Gamma Forests (it was a previous version, pre-Hartnell, possibly pre-Martin, that raised this legend).

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #429 on: 15 November 2022, 12:05:01 »
What most accept as the First Doctor was William Hartnell’s version. However, the Jo Martin version came before, and also called herself “The Doctor”, and is also possibly the one who had their memory wiped around the time they were regenerated to a child to become Hartnell’s Doctor.

My thought is that the Jo Martin Doctor (possibly more before her) were partially responsible for the legends that the Hartnell Doctor used to take on the name (and add to the legend). This also allows for the term “The Doctor” to become known as “Great Warrior” in the Gamma Forests (it was a previous version, pre-Hartnell, possibly pre-Martin, that raised this legend).

Interesting take on it and very plausible way of explaining the path as well. And being repressed/wiped memories, the legends could be a way for The Doctor to try to regain those memories back.

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #430 on: 22 November 2022, 22:05:57 »
We have a new companion for the Fifteenth Doctor! (Yes, apparently that is the numbering). And it's Coronation Street grad Millie Gibson:

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who-series-14-companion-coronation-street-millie-gibson/

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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #431 on: 23 November 2022, 07:31:22 »
Well everything seems to point that the lore that Chibnail's run created is staying. I can only hope story telling will improve.
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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #432 on: 23 November 2022, 08:22:26 »
I say good that they don't try to wipe out addition that he did and might possible use those as part of upcoming stories. I am not big on retconning and especially if it's done just because some folks on internet don't like those. 
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Re: Doctor Who: Where did I leave the Tardis?
« Reply #433 on: 08 January 2023, 10:01:05 »
Surprised no one has yet commented on the fact that the upcoming specials will apparently have characters from the old Doctor Who comics, such as Beep the Meep and the insectoids that were chasing him, in them.

Now, if they were to bring back Frobisher as a companion, that would just be over the top.

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