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Title: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2020, 18:57:07
From SE Michigan and Detroit, I'll now be living in Sebring, FLA.  Wish me luck!

I was wondering, though.  Are there any BT players near by?  I would love to get in on a game, or just talk BT.  Like we do here, lol. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: elf25s on 18 November 2020, 20:06:22
check with battletech players by zip on facebook
also mosquitos...they are big enough to have their own logos...important do not mistake crocks for puppies or shoes...when temps get low dont stand under trees or palms it will rain iguanas....
other than that just find some bt players and you will be fine
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2020, 20:58:09
I don't know.  Michigan skeeters are of the brown and black tiger stripe variety.  They are pretty big.

I'm only renting for three months, but I might buy soon.  Just watching the prices.  I was looking at Cape Coral for the future.  And getting a Can Am Spyder.  I'll  enjoy the sun on a bike like that. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: trboturtle on 18 November 2020, 23:52:08
I don't know.  Michigan skeeters are of the brown and black tiger stripe variety.  They are pretty big.

I'm only renting for three months, but I might buy soon.  Just watching the prices.  I was looking at Cape Coral for the future.  And getting a Can Am Spyder.  I'll  enjoy the sun on a bike like that.


There are some active players in the Cape Coral/Ft Myers area...

Craig
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 19 November 2020, 00:05:32
I'll check into the local gaming stores when I get there.  Thanks, Trboturtle.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 19 November 2020, 03:25:05
The important thing to remember about Florida is that every body of water that's at least two feet across has an alligator in it.  This is not limited to outdoors.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: elf25s on 19 November 2020, 11:17:04
The important thing to remember about Florida is that every body of water that's at least two feet across has an alligator in it.  This is not limited to outdoors.
well me being me i like gators....between two pieces of rye and on bbq...
gator tail in nice tangy bbq sauce or with hot sauce with some hot peppers with green or red peppers is to die for(some folks smear it in lemon juice first)
that is only reason i would visit florida no need to look for fast food joint when food comes to you
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Garrand on 19 November 2020, 11:23:30
The important thing to remember about Florida is that every body of water that's at least two feet across has an alligator in it.  This is not limited to outdoors.

This sounds like an incentive to always carry a bag of hand grenades...

Damon.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 19 November 2020, 13:14:04
Yep.  And in Sebring there are lakes everywhere.  This is Florida's lake district.  It's nice, and I even have a Mercury inflatable dingy with an 8 hp motor, so I am equipped.  Just no swimming.  Which is fine by me, I can swim well, but I'm not into wrestling gators. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: wantec on 20 November 2020, 13:18:06
The important thing to remember about Florida is that every body of water that's at least two feet across has an alligator in it.  This is not limited to outdoors.
I can attest to this. I was in Florida for a work trip, there was a small drainage area in between the parking lot and the building. This guy was hanging out there for a week or so, before someone could be brought in to relocate him. He was prob 4-5 long, a wee little one.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 20 November 2020, 13:24:51
Well, my rental deal in Sebring fell through.  That just means I'll be looking in Cape Coral sooner. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: trboturtle on 20 November 2020, 13:58:44
Well, my rental deal in Sebring fell through.  That just means I'll be looking in Cape Coral sooner.
 

It can be expensive....

Craig
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 20 November 2020, 15:14:08
 

It can be expensive....

Craig

I was looking into a trailer park on a canal.  And a few others.  I know there are lots of duplexes in the area, too, that can be very affordable.   

The place I was looking at in Sebring was $2,400 per month.  It's still cheaper than living like a vagabond in motels every night like I'm doing right now.  But I am having fun traveling. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: I am Belch II on 20 November 2020, 16:02:59
Sad that your leaving MI.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Ghost0402 on 20 November 2020, 16:12:22
From SE Michigan and Detroit, I'll now be living in Sebring, FLA.  Wish me luck!

I was wondering, though.  Are there any BT players near by?  I would love to get in on a game, or just talk BT.  Like we do here, lol.
The first weekend of December the Classic 12 Hours of Sebring will be going on at Sebring International.  That is worth seeing.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: idea weenie on 20 November 2020, 17:51:03
If you plan to stay, have a plan for hurricane season so you can evacuate safely, or hunker down for a decent period of time.  Durable windows, maybe second floor (to reduce the chance of furniture being flooded), and a generator in case you lose power (and make sure the generator is outdoors).

Here (http://www.floridahealth.gov/programs-and-services/emergency-preparedness-and-response/prepare-yourself/current-hazards/_documents/supply-kit.pdf) is a good guide.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 20 November 2020, 19:35:21
My brain is trying to work around how fits into a news flash containing both "Florida Man" and "Battletech"
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 20 November 2020, 19:54:13
Sad that your leaving MI.
Thanks everyone, for your concern and comments.  I'll definitely miss Michigan, though I will be driving back up to get more stuff to bring down here.  And my family is there.

If you plan to stay, have a plan for hurricane season so you can evacuate safely, or hunker down for a decent period of time.  Durable windows, maybe second floor (to reduce the chance of furniture being flooded), and a generator in case you lose power (and make sure the generator is outdoors).

Here (http://www.floridahealth.gov/programs-and-services/emergency-preparedness-and-response/prepare-yourself/current-hazards/_documents/supply-kit.pdf) is a good guide.
I'll definitely have a plan for hurricane evacuation.

The first weekend of December the Classic 12 Hours of Sebring will be going on at Sebring International.  That is worth seeing.
And if I'm in Sebring, I'll stick around for the festival.

My brain is trying to work around how fits into a news flash containing both "Florida Man" and "Battletech"
"Florida man says he got the idea to blow up alligators with a bag full of hand grenades from the Classic BattleTech website.  Details at 11".
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: ckosacranoid on 21 November 2020, 01:44:45
Well, is he going to become a Florida man.
Good ,if I with the move.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 November 2020, 12:22:10
Thanks!  The move is easy.  All the driving is the hard part.   ;D

Driving to Cape Coral today.  I'll be checking out houses and condos along the way.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: trboturtle on 21 November 2020, 12:51:15
Thanks!  The move is easy.  All the driving is the hard part.   ;D

Driving to Cape Coral today.  I'll be checking out houses and condos along the way.

Where are you driving from? I know from experience that once you hit Florida -- you still have to drive 6 hours to reach Cape Coral.....

Craig
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 November 2020, 14:01:50
Where are you driving from? I know from experience that once you hit Florida -- you still have to drive 6 hours to reach Cape Coral.....

Craig

I drove from the Detroit area.  Last night I stayed in the Sebring area, and right now I'm checking a condo in LaBell which is 50 or 60 miles from Cape Coral.  So don't mind my complaints, the worst driving is behind me.  Until later when I go back to Michigan to get more of my things.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: trboturtle on 21 November 2020, 18:43:22
I drove from the Detroit area.  Last night I stayed in the Sebring area, and right now I'm checking a condo in LaBell which is 50 or 60 miles from Cape Coral.  So don't mind my complaints, the worst driving is behind me.  Until later when I go back to Michigan to get more of my things.

Whatever you do, avoid Lehigh Acres..... That area has a bad rep and not a place to live.....

Craig
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 November 2020, 19:38:03
Thanks for the intel.  I'll be looking everywhere.  I'm at the Drury inn at Ft. Myers for a few days.  Lots of properties around here along the canals.  I'm liking it because I like to canoe, and the canals are perfect to explore. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: guardiandashi on 22 November 2020, 20:10:15
I don't know the market, but the real question is how long you are planning to stay somewhere.

if you are planning to settle for 5-7 years or more, it may be worth trying to buy rather than renting, if your credit is decent.
if you are looking at buying, the suggestion I would have for "upgrades" is if the place has a south facing roof, solar, and the equivalent of a powerwall might make for a good long term upgrade.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 22 November 2020, 20:31:26
Yep, my rental lease was going to be for just three months.  Enough time to buy property, or at least a condo. 

I will look into solar.  This is the sunshine state, after all.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 22 November 2020, 20:42:05
Yep, my rental lease was going to be for just three months.  Enough time to buy property, or at least a condo. 

I will look into solar.  This is the sunshine state, after all.

I close on selling my Condo tomorrow.  After 15 years of dealing with an HOA, I would rather nail my sensitive bits to a chair than buy another condo.  In order to sell, I had to talk to an attorney that specializes in HOAs...  You would be better off buying a lean-to in the everglades.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 22 November 2020, 21:03:08
I understand about HOA's.  If they seem uptight, it repulses me. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: CrossfirePilot on 22 November 2020, 21:31:49
It wasn't just the HOA being uptight. It was a board acting like fascists' and just voting to decide things that I had to add on the inside of my unit for the "benefit of all."  1. a hot water circulation device.  Never consulted me about it, just told me one day that since my unit was on the end I would have to add it "for the good of all".  2. Two weeks from closing, told me that the fireplace that was part of the unit for 40 years, had to be removed.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 22 November 2020, 22:00:07
Holy terror!  That sounds like a bunch of suburban meglomaniacs running the place.  No, I'm looking for the kind of place I can keep my canoe and my little boat.  In Cape Coral, there are canals everywhere,  whole giant neighborhoods with every house having canal access, maybe even a small dock.  Heck, a lot of the houses are no more than double wides on permanent foundations.  I don't mind that.

But I have an open mind, and I really want to live here below the frostline.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 November 2020, 22:00:45
Related to previous conversation, Florida Man saves dog from alligator (https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/11/21/man-saves-dog-from-alligator-pkg-vpx.wink).  Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need, thank you Florida Man.

As for HOAs, I have friends that are pursuing a discrimination suit against theirs - antisemitic and other such slurs and attitude, all believing the HOA is untouchable.  Not according to the judge, mwa ha ha.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 22 November 2020, 22:10:03
I find that if they say I can keep a canoe or an inflated twelve foot Mercury dingy on my patio, then they're cool.  And my dad rides a motorcycle, he's along for the ride because he just retired.  If they like motorcycles, they are totally cool, lol.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: elf25s on 23 November 2020, 08:31:17
word of advice...from few of my realtor friends
avoid and never buy property that has HOA
they answer to none and extort money out of owners and they get away with it
of course realtor will never tell you that because its their bread and butter you are taking away from them
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: SulliMike23 on 23 November 2020, 09:29:01
I still live in Michigan but I have family who live in Florida. Just be sure to pack for days or get your house ready for hurricane season when it comes around.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 23 November 2020, 12:26:45
I still live in Michigan but I have family who live in Florida. Just be sure to pack for days or get your house ready for hurricane season when it comes around.
Which it should be noted is still in effect.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 23 November 2020, 13:14:56
Yep, this is not the sailing time, as well.  We have a 33 foot sailboat decked out with air conditioning, heat, radar, and two cabins for sleep, as well as a bathroom.  It's in drydock in Michigan for the winter, but next spring, we are going back to get it and sail it out through either New York and the Erie Canal, or through Chicago which has a canal to the Mississippi River.

Adventure!  And I'll have my laptop for writing an hour or two per day.  :)
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 November 2020, 13:27:27
word of advice...from few of my realtor friends
avoid and never buy property that has HOA
they answer to none and extort money out of owners and they get away with it
of course realtor will never tell you that because its their bread and butter you are taking away from them

I've heard of precisely one incident where an HOA wound up being the good guys, and that was a case of someone who put up the largest, tackiest Christmas display they possibly could, with enough lights for the Las Vegas Strip and music blaring all night long.

Most of what I hear about HOAs is them forcing people to do things like have an expensive grass lawn in a desert instead of putting in a rock garden decorated with native, drought-resistant plants, forcing people to take down solar panels, or other acts of petty tyranny.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 23 November 2020, 13:50:58
If I have to, I'll sick dad on them.   ;D He specializes in taking over.  He was a union steward for ten years and was on the board for his HOA in Okemos, Michigan.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: elf25s on 23 November 2020, 17:19:13
If I have to, I'll sick dad on them.   ;D He specializes in taking over.  He was a union steward for ten years and was on the board for his HOA in Okemos, Michigan.
good luck if it comes to that....
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 23 November 2020, 17:28:58
good luck if it comes to that....
I'll try to stick to houses.  It's just easier than condos. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 24 November 2020, 22:26:03
So I searched Port Charlotte today.  Seven houses with my criteria (primarily canal access).  One had a perfect canal that connects with the Gulf, and at $180k it fit the bill.  Right in our range.  I saw one with its own motorized hoist (a davit) for lifting boats out of the water, but it was close to $300k and a good bit beyond even a shared effort with dad. 

Tomorrow is relaxation.  We're staying at a hotel in Punta Gorda,  but can't afford to buy Punta Gorda prices. 

Any one know of a BattleTech-friendly hobby store in the Ft. Myers - Cape Coral area?  I might try to drop in and say high and buy something in DTF.

Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 24 November 2020, 23:59:30
Port Charlotte?  My grandfather lived there back in the 80s.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: elf25s on 25 November 2020, 00:54:42
So I searched Port Charlotte today.  Seven houses with my criteria (primarily canal access).  One had a perfect canal that connects with the Gulf, and at $180k it fit the bill.  Right in our range.  I saw one with its own motorized hoist (a davit) for lifting boats out of the water, but it was close to $300k and a good bit beyond even a shared effort with dad. 

Tomorrow is relaxation.  We're staying at a hotel in Punta Gorda,  but can't afford to buy Punta Gorda prices. 

Any one know of a BattleTech-friendly hobby store in the Ft. Myers - Cape Coral area?  I might try to drop in and say high and buy something in DTF.
check with facebook group battletech players by zip i know there are quite few players in florida ask for gene
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: trboturtle on 25 November 2020, 09:18:40
Port Charlotte?  My grandfather lived there back in the 80s.

I'm living there right this minute....

Craig
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: SulliMike23 on 25 November 2020, 14:17:11
I think my grandmother lives in Port Charlotte.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Wrangler on 25 November 2020, 15:08:40
Good luck, reb. Bewary of the mysterious Florida Men.  ;D

On plus u will be able drive see launches at the Cape!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 25 November 2020, 15:40:23
I'd love to live near there and get woke up from a nap by a launch.  But it is mui expensive to live there.  All the Atlantic side is out of my range.

But, yeah, I could still drive there.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 25 November 2020, 23:15:34
Port Charlotte?  My grandfather lived there back in the 80s.

Lots of older retired folks around here. 

check with facebook group battletech players by zip i know there are quite few players in florida ask for gene

I will. Thanks for the advice. 

I'm living there right this minute....

Craig

I see why you live here.  I like this area.  It's just not exactly the right time for buying, since I will be sailing a boat first to Isle Royal in Lake Superior in the spring before we take the boat out to the Atlantic Ocean.    :thumbsup:

But it's good to scout these things.  I want to live in this part of the state.  At least in LaBell.   

I think my grandmother lives in Port Charlotte.

She's living in American Paradise. 

Good luck, reb. Bewary of the mysterious Florida Men.  ;D

On plus u will be able drive see launches at the Cape!

Between Alligators,  Florida Man on the news at 11, the rockets blasting off from Cape Canaveral,  spiders with legspans the size of large floor tiles, and pythons in the Everglades, this state is pretty damned deadly.

I like it!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 26 November 2020, 00:27:08
Lots of older retired folks around here. 

I still remember his house.  But mostly the outdoor pool he had that had a screen around it.  I spent most of the time we were there visiting him trying to catch anoles (which I was completely unsuccessful at doing).
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 20 September 2021, 22:05:28
OK!  After a nice Michigan summer, it's time to move on.  Tomorrow morning we will be leaving for Florida with my dad's sailboat.

It's late in the year, too late to leave from Detroit  out through New York City via the Erie Canal.  We'll be there one day, just not this trip.

So stage 1 of this trip is sailing Detroit to Chicago and the canal with the infamous Asian carp net.  It connects lake Michigan to the Mississippi River and stage 2.

I have my phone, my camera, and my laptop for writing during the trip.

Wish me luck!  And Trboturtle, I look forward to one day running opfor and throwing the dice around.  If you all would have an old player, of course.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Wrangler on 21 September 2021, 06:52:12
Whatever you do, avoid Lehigh Acres..... That area has a bad rep and not a place to live.....

Craig
No kidding, this story paints a picture I'd rather avoid (https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2016/8/17/suburban-poverty-boomtown-lehigh-acres-florida). Becareful down there, Reb.  It's not thriving place, there a lot miserable people in spots.  No offense to anyone.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 September 2021, 07:27:13
We're not settling in Lehigh Acres.  Our storage facility that we have all our stuff in Florida so far is in LaBelle.  We're probably settling near there.  But not Lehigh Acres, trust me.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: garhkal on 21 September 2021, 07:32:59
Holy terror!  That sounds like a bunch of suburban meglomaniacs running the place.  No, I'm looking for the kind of place I can keep my canoe and my little boat.  In Cape Coral, there are canals everywhere,  whole giant neighborhoods with every house having canal access, maybe even a small dock.  Heck, a lot of the houses are no more than double wides on permanent foundations.  I don't mind that.

But I have an open mind, and I really want to live here below the frostline.

Its because of bolshevic like that, i will NEVER EVER live in an area that has a HOA...
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 September 2021, 10:05:32
Its because of bolshevic like that, i will NEVER EVER live in an area that has a HOA...

The places we have been looking don't have one.  Which is good.  No one needs to be told what to do with their house
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 21 September 2021, 14:48:59
I knew someone who lived in Celebration, Florida, for a while.  They said that if you thought a normal HOA was bad, you should try one that was run by people who thought having topiaries of Mickey, Donald, and Goofy in your front yard was normal.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 September 2021, 18:20:47
People like that are disturbing.

LaBelle is down 200 miles south of Orlando.  I'm hoping distance mitigates the influence of the dark side, errr, I mean the mouse.

Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: trboturtle on 21 September 2021, 20:13:55
People like that are disturbing.

LaBelle is down 200 miles south of Orlando.  I'm hoping distance mitigates the influence of the dark side, errr, I mean the mouse.

I've been through LaBelle several times over the years. It looks like a nice quiet town,

Craig
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 21 September 2021, 20:24:35
I've been through LaBelle several times over the years. It looks like a nice quiet town,

Craig

I liked it too.  We will probably be in the new subdivisions that are around the older part of town. 

My dad wants to be in the country but I keep reminding him that none of us, even him, have ever lived more than a few miles from a store, and usually in walking distance.   

He understands I'd rather have neighbors and shopping and other advantages of city life.  And LaBelle is at the heart of the Okeechobee Waterway.  LaBelle has 2 marinas that access the Atlantic and Gulf sides.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: garhkal on 22 September 2021, 07:59:51
The places we have been looking don't have one.  Which is good.  No one needs to be told what to do with their house

Glad to hear it!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 29 September 2021, 08:24:56
Well, today is the day!   The weather is good, and a minor malfunction with the boat was repaired.

Next report should be in Chicago!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: garhkal on 29 September 2021, 15:18:31
Glad to hear it.

As a suggestion, if you DO go solar, get a generator/converter, so you can still keep power AFTER the lights go out from hurricanes..
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: guardiandashi on 29 September 2021, 15:40:43
Glad to hear it.

As a suggestion, if you DO go solar, get a generator/converter, so you can still keep power AFTER the lights go out from hurricanes..

I have been thinking of solar, and I agree but I would say get the solar, and battery system

the power where I live (washington state) is pretty reliable and cheap @ ~9cents per kw/h  but I am still thinking of investing in solar.
the system i was thinking of would include:
solar panels
Inverter (likely micro inverters)
Battery backup (equivalent of tesla powerwall module(s) )
grid tie

for someone in the SE like florida my understanding is that the grid is a lot less reliable, and have a lot more issues of lightning strikes, hurricanes, and / or Tornados that can cause bad and long term disruption.

and that doesn't even mention things like the horrible winter storms that happened last winter
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: DEZOAT on 03 October 2021, 07:31:07
 :thumbsup: Well you and your Dad be careful on the trip down to Florida. A lot crazy weather of late going on across America right now. Keep everyone posted on how you are doing.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 03 October 2021, 12:22:37
Thanks guys!  Today I'm on Lake Michigan, south bound to Chicago. We're planning a few days in Chi Town, eat some good pizza and whatnot.

And thanks about the solar panel advice, we have a 5 battery set up and an inverter.  The main problem is our alternator doesn't keep up well, we need a more robust one I think.  And the solar panels. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Ruger on 03 October 2021, 13:33:27
Thanks guys!  Today I'm on Lake Michigan, south bound to Chicago. We're planning a few days in Chi Town, eat some good pizza and whatnot.

And thanks about the solar panel advice, we have a 5 battery set up and an inverter.  The main problem is our alternator doesn't keep up well, we need a more robust one I think.  And the solar panels.

If you want good pizza, don’t do deep dish, and especially don’t do Lou Malnati’s deep dish. Not unless they’ve gotten a lot better in the last 15 to 20 years. I tried several different versions and hated every single one.

Ruger
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 03 October 2021, 13:49:43
I'll keep that in mind!  I want a good pizza, not garbage. 

Thanks for the scouting report!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Ruger on 03 October 2021, 16:33:24
I'll keep that in mind!  I want a good pizza, not garbage. 

Thanks for the scouting report!

Don’t get me wrong. I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with my opinion, and that’s fine for them. But when I tried these, all I could taste was dough and tomato. I couldn’t really taste any of the other ingredients.

And if I’m going to eat something like pizza, I like to be able to taste what’s in it.

Ruger
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 03 October 2021, 16:45:07
Don’t get me wrong. I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with my opinion, and that’s fine for them. But when I tried these, all I could taste was dough and tomato. I couldn’t really taste any of the other ingredients.

And if I’m going to eat something like pizza, I like to be able to taste what’s in it.

Ruger

I'm the same way.  There are many so-called "authentic" Italian pizzerias, and I don't like most of them.  I like cheese, pepperoni and mushrooms myself, some times ham or sausage,.  I like a flavor explosion.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: guardiandashi on 03 October 2021, 18:48:23
its not close, in fact its a long way away, but one of my favorite pizza places is in vancouver, wa its called juliani's. they have a lot of old rock band stuff on the walls, but the pizzas are the main attraction, and they do the heavy topping pies.  the one my dad and I usually get when we go is called the hurricane and we usually get a 14" pizza and can only eat about 2 slices each.  the toppings are ~1-2inches thick on the pizza if that gives you an idea.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 03 October 2021, 19:11:37
That sounds awesome!  If I'm ever in Vancouver,  I will have to try it!
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 October 2021, 20:34:38
Juliani's?  I'll have to remember that for the next time I'm up in Vancouver.
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Post by: guardiandashi on 03 October 2021, 22:10:57
my bad I misspelled it
julianospizza .com/ is a broken url to their web site

http://www.julianospizza.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Use_this_pic_of_Pizza.JPG

thats a picture of a hurricane from the menu
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 October 2021, 23:13:32
Ah, so it's a West Coast pizza.
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Post by: Hellraiser on 04 October 2021, 01:02:00
If you want good pizza, don’t do deep dish, and especially don’t do Lou Malnati’s deep dish. Not unless they’ve gotten a lot better in the last 15 to 20 years. I tried several different versions and hated every single one.

Wow, I've never had it but that place gets the ravingest reviews out here in AZ.
Probably because its AZ & maybe we don't know what good pizza is, LOL.
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Post by: Hellraiser on 04 October 2021, 01:05:28
all I could taste was dough and tomato. I couldn’t really taste any of the other ingredients.

And if I’m going to eat something like pizza, I like to be able to taste what’s in it.

See this is why my favorite pizza is from Spinatos.
Its thin crust v/s deep dish & the sauce is out of this world.
The "Super-Six" which is basically a supreme w/ 3 each meats & vegies is amazing tasting to me.
I can taste the sauce all the different toppings, just outstanding.
And as the mark of a REALLY good pizza, when I take some home & put it in the Toaster Oven the next day its "almost" as good as the first time around.
Try getting that the 2nd day from Dominos.
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Post by: Hellraiser on 04 October 2021, 01:06:44
Short of the Black Olives, that looks really good, now I'm hungry
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Post by: Ruger on 04 October 2021, 10:59:24
Try getting that the 2nd day from Dominos.

I don’t rewarm pizza. Once it cools down, that’s how I eat it. I generally don’t have any issues with any pizza from anywhere like this.

Ruger
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 October 2021, 11:14:12
Thanks guys!  Today I'm on Lake Michigan, south bound to Chicago. We're planning a few days in Chi Town, eat some good pizza and whatnot.


Try Pequods (https://pequodspizza.com/).
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Post by: rebs on 04 October 2021, 12:57:53
Try Pequods (https://pequodspizza.com/).

I will definitely try Pequods!  Sounds good to me.  I already told my dad that's where we are going to eat and he's good with it.
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Post by: gyedid on 04 October 2021, 18:09:55
So now you'll have to put up with those milquetoast Florida Stanley Cup celebrations.

OTOH, at least you're going to GET celebrations in the foreseeable future.

cheers,

Gabe
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 04 October 2021, 18:35:44
So now you'll have to put up with those milquetoast Florida Stanley Cup celebrations.

OTOH, at least you're going to GET celebrations in the foreseeable future.

cheers,

Gabe

Ha!  I'll die a Red Wings fan snowbird!   But I might get a Lightning hat, too.  We'll see.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Hellraiser on 04 October 2021, 20:22:56
Ah, so it's a West Coast pizza.

What is "West Coast" Pizza?

I can't say I've ever heard that term.

I know Chicago Pizza.
New York Pizza
Deep Dish
Thin Crust
Square Pizza v/s Round Pizza even.

But what is "West Coast" pizza?

I ask this as a west coaster.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 04 October 2021, 21:49:16
"West Coast" or "California" style pizza is similar to New York style in crust consistency, but is usually cut into smaller slices than traditional New York pizza.  But what it's really known for is having lots of toppings, both in quantity and variety.  It's also common for the pizza's edge to not be braided and for sauce, cheese, and topping to be spread all the way to the edge.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 05 October 2021, 09:05:14
I didn't know Detroit style was a thing until I moved to Michigan.
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Post by: rebs on 05 October 2021, 10:27:39
I didn't know you lived in the Mitten State.

Yeah, I love Cloverleaf pizza, as well as Buddy's.  Good Detroit style pizza with the sauce on top.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 05 October 2021, 19:04:16
A little secret: I CANT ****** WAIT TO GET OFF THESE BIG LAKES, lol....
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Hellraiser on 05 October 2021, 19:12:36
"West Coast" or "California" style pizza is similar to New York style in crust consistency, but is usually cut into smaller slices than traditional New York pizza.

But what it's really known for is having lots of toppings, both in quantity and variety. 

It's also common for the pizza's edge to not be braided and for sauce, cheese, and topping to be spread all the way to the edge.

Hmm,  first part makes me think just "normal pizza" slices....... IE.   Pizza Hut or Dominos looking shapes

Toppings just seems like a preference thing to me.   (I myself love a good mix of meat & veggies and I stick to the basics,  no Tofu or Artichokes or whatever)

Now this 3rd part, hmm, I'll have to look around for that,  sauce & toppings to the edge.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 October 2021, 20:08:10
Tofu is better in other dishes than pizza, but artichoke hearts are a great pizza topping.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: guardiandashi on 05 October 2021, 20:30:54
Tofu is better in other dishes than pizza, but artichoke hearts are a great pizza topping.
agree on the artichoke hearts.

for personal pizzas IE I am just going to get a pizza for myself I like going to mod pizza.  its a flat rate based on the crust you get so if you want to have a pepperoni and cheese pizza thats fine or if you want a "loaded" pizza like I usually do IE "everything except anchovies (if they even offer them) from the meats section plus most of the veggies (I pass hard on the hot tomatoes, pepperchinis and jalapenos ) but basically everything else is a thumbs up its your choice. and the same price
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 October 2021, 20:50:14
Mod's okay, but I generally prefer to avoid big chains.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 05 October 2021, 22:02:31
You mean no Little Caesar's?   :D
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 October 2021, 23:18:48
I'm not sure that what they serve qualifies as food.  I think it's just a food-like substance.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 05 October 2021, 23:19:48
Cardboard pizza.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 October 2021, 23:23:24
The box might be better than the so-called pizza.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Ruger on 06 October 2021, 07:10:35
The box might be better than the so-called pizza.

Little Caesers, back when they actually did “pizza, pizza” (ie, two pizzas in one package/cardboard shelf inside long paper baggie), was fairly decent when your only other choices in town were Pizza Hut (which was good, but a bit pricier) and Dominos (with their old recipe/sauce, which sucked), and another place called Pizza Lane (good pizza, but very pricey unless you went for their all you can eat bar).

The version they have now is not as good, admittedly.

Ruger
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 October 2021, 08:30:07
Yeah, I remember back then.  When Pizza Hut was A) good and B) the biggest pizza chain in the US.

Know what did them in?  When they canceled their scholastic program.  Don't know what they were thinking but their business tanked once they stopped giving out free personal pizzas to kids in exchange for book reports.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Natasha Kerensky on 06 October 2021, 08:38:35
Don't know what they were thinking but their business tanked once they stopped giving out free personal pizzas to kids in exchange for book reports.

My kids still got/get a free pizza at Pizza Hut for reading.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 October 2021, 09:18:59
Huh, they stopped doing it in my area in the 90s.  Stopped doing it in a lot of the country, from what I read.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 06 October 2021, 10:07:03
Yeah, I remember it.  We didn't just get a free pizza, we got to go in the kitchen as a class and put sauce, cheese, and pepperoni on the dough, then the cooks baked it for us.  That was a good program.

Anyway, my dad and I just docked after another 24 hour cruise on rough and rowdy Lake Michigan.  We're only about 70 miles from Chicago.  I can almost taste the pizza!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 09 October 2021, 17:39:43
So I made it to Hammond, Indiana, about 16 miles from Chicago by Uber driver.  Close enough for me.  We sailed through one hell of a rainstorm to get here, I was soaked, and my.shoes will take at least two days to dry out.

We'll be here for at least four days, maybe five.  And a pizza will soon be procured and devoured.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 16 October 2021, 17:05:09
Went to Pequads today only to be rebuffed for not having reservations. 

All I wanted was a good pizza.

Edit: OK!  Reservations made for 9:30 tonight.  Because hey, it's never too late to eat pizza!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 17 October 2021, 05:19:26
So how was it?
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 17 October 2021, 09:19:05
It was a damn good pizza!  It was as good as Cloverleaf or Buddy's in Detroit.   

To kill the time until our reservations, we went and watched a movie, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, which was pretty good, as well.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 17 October 2021, 10:36:29
It was definitely a good movie!  Glad the pizza was up to snuff!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Hellraiser on 19 October 2021, 13:41:31
I keep meaning to go see that movie before it leaves theaters!
Another weekend passed & didn't get around to it again.
Did get some Spinatos Pizza here in AZ, Super-Six, such a good pizza.


So how is the boat trip going?  Back on the water yet?
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 19 October 2021, 19:48:47
I definitely recommend seeing it on a big screen... totally worth the extra expense, and even having to wear a mask the whole time!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 19 October 2021, 22:54:19
So how is the boat trip going?  Back on the water yet?

Yep!  We entered the Chicago River system yesterday morning and made it all the way to Joliet by nightfall.

Today we made it through two big locks down to Ottawa, Illinois.   Nice little town.  We'll stay here tomorrow as well.  My dad is still sore from the Great Lakes pounding we took this time of year.  He's 70, so its to be expected.  But while he rests, I will walk around and explore town. 
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Post by: rebs on 22 October 2021, 12:56:54
Inglorious disaster strikes: the boat won't start this morning. 

We charged it with our generator, and it has 13.6 amps, so it's not the batteries.  We broke out the electric tester and have narrowed it down to a faulty starter switch.  Waiting for a part currently.   

So I am hoping also for Spotlight On: Hellion Keshik today.  So I can read lots of good stuff in order to eventually write good stuff.

Edit:  the starter switch turned out to be fine upon further testing.  It is the actual starter that's the problem.  Got one on order, but we have to wait until Monday to get it. 
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 22 October 2021, 19:03:55
Where did you wind up stuck for the weekend?
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 22 October 2021, 19:29:57
I hate it when troubleshooting gets the wrong answer at first.. it always multiplies the time to repair...  :-\
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Post by: rebs on 22 October 2021, 19:51:36
Where did you wind up stuck for the weekend?

Lacon, Illinois.  It's a very small town with many bars.  Not much to do here but drink, apparently.  But that doesn't bother me too much.  They like good music, so there is that...

I hate it when troubleshooting gets the wrong answer at first.. it always multiplies the time to repair...  :-\

Yaasss... We had to cancel the order for the switch, and order a whole new starter instead.  But no matter what we have to wait until.Monday for it to ship.  So I'm in a true podunk town (population 1970 or so) until then.
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Post by: Daryk on 22 October 2021, 20:17:26
That should give you time to figure out which one has the best actual food..  :)
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Post by: rebs on 22 October 2021, 20:28:35
I just ate a bowl of Dinty Moore beef stew and buttery bread, so tonight I'll just listen to music.  But, there is a good place for burgers and breakfast called Victoria's Country Kitchen.  Good food and in easy walking distance.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 22 October 2021, 23:50:10
Good drinks and good music. 

I just wish we were on our way.  We're one of the last "loopers" through, so we're going to have an uphill climb.  Most people going to Florida through this route have already been through a month earlier.  There will be places we have to talk people into getting us fuel, and the TVA lakes will all be lowered at what is called "winter pool", so we will have to watch out for our navigation into and out of port towns along the way.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 27 October 2021, 14:41:18
We got our starter Monday night and left yesterday.  Last night was spent at a marina in Peoria.   Very average town in the mid west, just as advertised.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 27 October 2021, 19:30:48
Tonight we're in Havana, Illinois!  Nice little town with a very cool little marina.   Good wifi, and a plug for electric power.  The river has been high due to torrential rains earlier this week, so we practically have the run of the whole river, and not just the shipping channels.

Tomorrow night we'll be anchored out away from civilization, so wish us some luck over here!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Daryk on 27 October 2021, 19:43:46
Good luck!  Sailors are sailors, inland or otherwise!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 27 October 2021, 19:52:43
Thanks, man!  :thumbsup:  I'm definitely earning an eventual anchor tattoo on my leg on this trip.  But that's later when we get to Florida.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 27 October 2021, 19:55:17
Tattoos are something DEFINITELY worth waiting for.  As I understand it, laser removal is MUCH worse...  ^-^
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 27 October 2021, 21:27:09
I let the idea "marinate" sometimes for years before getting a new one.
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Post by: Daryk on 28 October 2021, 03:29:11
Good call!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 28 October 2021, 09:22:47
I thought so. 

Now for today, we're leaving Havana, Illinois.   Weather forecast is for rain all day and all tonight, though it clears up the further south we get.

Tonight we anchor out since the closest place to dock is 100 miles, and all we manage in the sailboat is about 60 or so a day.  Tomorrow night we'll be at a dock called Mel's.  20 miles from the Mississippi River.

I'm already singing "When the Levee Breaks" in preparation.   In fact, I have a whole list of songs to sing on my way down the mighty river.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Hellraiser on 28 October 2021, 12:35:35
and all we manage in the sailboat is about 60 or so a day.
Ouch, that is slow going.
How long is this trip supposed to take?
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 28 October 2021, 17:12:27
We reach Mobile, Alabama between the 20th of November and the 1st of December.  Then we're doing refits and resting for four to six weeks in Mobile harbor.

Yeah, if you want to get somewhere fast, don't choose a sailboat!
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 28 October 2021, 18:09:49
No lie!  :)
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Post by: Hellraiser on 28 October 2021, 19:41:02
I can think of worse things to do for 3 months :)     :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 29 October 2021, 07:31:36
Well, my first night anchored out wasn't too bad.  We parked the boat in the lee of an island on the side of the river.  We were still buffeted by the wakes of passing barges, but made it through the night.

Now tonight we rest at Mel's Diner, a restaurant with a boat dock the lies 20 miles from our immediate goal, the mighty Mississippi!
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Post by: rebs on 29 October 2021, 19:35:03
At Mel's Illinois Riverdock Restaurant right now.  I had the smoked brisket and it was awesome!  So good, so rich. 

Now we're going to spend the night docked, and tomorrow  we will be on the Mississippi River. 

I haven't had time to write as much as I would like, but I have been reading every night.  Pick up Hunting Season if you get the chance.   It's quite good and sets the stage for a lot of future conflict in and around the FWL, including those pesky Marians, but also with the Capellan Confederation. 

Currently reading: Blood Will Tell.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 30 October 2021, 21:15:10
In Alton, Illinois, tonight and tomorrow as well.  Beautiful countryside here.  If I knew how to shrink files on my android phone, I would post a picture.

Best of all, WE MADE IT TO THE MISSISSIPPI!!

Next up, the Ohio River.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 30 October 2021, 22:07:03
So you're not heading for the Gulf?  ???
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: rebs on 30 October 2021, 22:16:50
Mobile, Alabama is the penultimate destination, with Florida being the final goal.  But there's no places that sell diesel fuel on the lower Mississippi until you get to New Orleans, and we only have a 25 gallon tank, with 3 five gallon gerry cans reserve for a total of 40 gallons.  Plus we absolutely need to run a diesel heater because the weather is not cooperating....

So we are taking the Mississippi to the Ohio, then the Ohio to the Cumberland River.  The Cumberland has very little barge traffic, and it eventually leads to a cut that will take us to the Tennessee River. We take the Tennessee down into Northern Alabama, and a canal system called the Tom Bigbee.  This leads to Mobile. 

It's circuitous, but there is plenty of fuel (and marinas) on the way.  The TVA lakes are all very modern.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Hellraiser on 30 October 2021, 23:32:38
Honestly, I had no idea there was such limited access to fuel along the river.
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 October 2021, 00:24:12
Wouldn't be surprised if that's a side effect of restructuring the Lower Mississippi for improved shipping.  Making it more navigable for big barges but less friendly to smaller craft?
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida - By Boat!
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 02:24:13
It's got gasoline at several places, just no diesel.  From what I understand,  it's  due to severe damage from fairly recent floods.  They simply haven't rebuilt all the infrastructure.

Also, forgot to mention above, the barge traffic on the lower Mississippi is insane. 
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida.
Post by: Daryk on 31 October 2021, 07:12:45
That all makes sense to me, thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 10:29:07
The scenery will also be nicer the way we're taking.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Daryk on 31 October 2021, 12:21:41
No doubt about that! :)
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Post by: guardiandashi on 31 October 2021, 18:22:19
Mobile, Alabama is the penultimate destination, with Florida being the final goal.  But there's no places that sell diesel fuel on the lower Mississippi until you get to New Orleans, and we only have a 25 gallon tank, with 3 five gallon gerry cans reserve for a total of 40 gallons.  Plus we absolutely need to run a diesel heater because the weather is not cooperating....

So we are taking the Mississippi to the Ohio, then the Ohio to the Cumberland River.  The Cumberland has very little barge traffic, and it eventually leads to a cut that will take us to the Tennessee River. We take the Tennessee down into Northern Alabama, and a canal system called the Tom Bigbee.  This leads to Mobile. 

It's circuitous, but there is plenty of fuel (and marinas) on the way.  The TVA lakes are all very modern.
I know its maybe a silly question, but is there any difference between auto/truck diesel and boat diesel? because if not my out of the box answer would be to rent a vehicle for a few hours, and make fuel runs to a gas station
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 October 2021, 18:29:50
I think the issue is just how much fuel it takes.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 19:30:34
We would be stranded in long stretches of states like Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana.   

And the barge traffic is insane on the lower Mississippi. My dad and I want to avoid that.

Plus, the scenery is better the way we're going.  The Tennessee Valley Authority lakes, dams, and locks are all modern, plus nice newish marinas.

And I want to go by boat through Kentucky, Tennessee,  and Alabama.   Just for the novelty of it.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 19:42:51
And MLO4H is right.  Our fuel tank means we need diesel on the regular.  Our diesel heater (which is a godsend) also draws fuel from the same tank. 

It's predicted to be well bellow average temperatures in the southeastern US this next month, so we will need that heater.  This next week will see us going though lows in the 20's. 

Basically, we have a lot of reasons to go the way we're going.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 31 October 2021, 19:48:34
I don't know how big the fuel tank is on your boat but if it's comparable to the one on the boat my sister's in-laws own then it would be faster and probably cheaper to hire a fuel truck to meet you at a dock than to try to make multiple trips to fill it with fuel cans at standard gas stations.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 19:53:52
We have a 25 gallon fuel tank, plus we carry 3 five gallon gerry cans filled with more diesel. 

It's just better to go the way we are going for us, not for all people. 

And we're still planning to go to New Orleans, anyway.  We're going to take the Gulf of Mexico to get there, which is way better.  For us.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Wrangler on 31 October 2021, 20:15:22
Hope you make it, Rebs.  Sounds like it's challenging to go way you are.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 20:24:56
Thanks, Wrangler.  But due to a few reasons, mainly no fuel and very few marinas on the lower Mississippi, the way we are going is actually easier.   

Did I mention barge traffic on the Mississippi is hell on your nerves?
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 21:06:41
So today we rested up in the marina at Alton, Illinois.

But yesterday, here was an example of the scenery we saw...

Edit: Bear with me, I'm trying to learn to resize photos on my android phone.  It sucks.  I'll get it right one day...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 31 October 2021, 22:04:24
This is the Lewis and Clark Bridge in Alton, Illinois.  I'm standing on the dock next to my boat taking this one, as we're practically right under it.

Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: guardiandashi on 31 October 2021, 23:13:35
so after I posted about the fuel... it turns out that there is little to no difference between marine and regular diesel.
just the color and some marine diesel has a little more sulfur in it.

with that said... If you have phone /data service you can check local diesel prices and compare them to what the dock is charging.

considering you said the tank size is 25 gal, plus 3x 5 gallon cans, it might be cheaper to top up from a fuel station that sells regular diesel, of course if you can get to a "farm store" station it might be even cheaper, due to no road tax (some people said you can go to a truck stop and tell them its for filling your boat, and they don't charge road taxes. ) it all depends on if the dock is charging a markup for "convenience fee" the only other question is if you have a spot for 2 more 5gal cans and can find them, because that would give you a total of 50gal and 2 trips to full, 1 to fill the tank (if empty) and a second to refill all the cans.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 01 November 2021, 00:06:09
Definitely a thought I'll keep in mind.  But space is limited on a boat. 

We have the journey plotted out for the next 30 days, give or take a day or two.  We'll be able to not just refill at the marinas on the TVA lakes and canals, we'll be able to dock and relax.  Anchoring out is stressful, you never know what might happen while you sleep.  This way we'll not have so much stress.

You'll see.   :)  Especially now that I have the art of resizing on android down.

EDIT: Here are a couple of pictures, one is of the boat and how it looks with the mast down, and one of the interior, mainly the kitchen (the Galley) and my writing/reading spot with my laptop.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 01 November 2021, 03:31:33
I can see why you need the heater... that's a lot of surface area compared to the internal volume...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: worktroll on 01 November 2021, 04:02:45
Can I just say, as a Canadian living in Australia, that the fact you can boat all this way inland, via existing rivers/canals, totally amazing! Bizzare! All of the above!

Australia doesn't have river systems like that, despite the best efforts of the Murray-Darling basin. Sure you can get to Adelaide, but you have to start from back of beyond, not anywhere.

In a way, I'm jealous - but I'd use a UK canal barge, with power. Not sail.

(https://cdn.w600.comps.canstockphoto.com/black-white-canal-barge-pictures_csp3856178.jpg)

(Wonder how far I'd get cosplaying it as a pre-Dreadnought ... :D )
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 November 2021, 07:44:02
That's awesome you're able undertake this journey like this. It would be a bucket list thing for myself.  When I got out of the Navy in 1994 I decided to take the 1st class train across country to Boston via Chicago. It was a great trip to undertake.

I happy you're doing this sort trip for you and yh ok I'm re family.
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Post by: rebs on 01 November 2021, 09:34:48
Thanks, guys. 

Wrangler, I didn't know you were in the Navy...good deal.  Yes, this is my dad's bucket list journey.  If we didn't go this year, he was going to sell the boat.  It was now or never. 

Worktroll, you might pull it off if you could wrap it in tinfoil!  :D As for the rivers, you have two wonderful oceans around Australia.   Should be plenty of opportunity for anyone to sail or motor there in your beloved sun-drenched land of bikinis. 

Daryk, it's actually got more space than pictured.  My dad and I have our own cabins, as well.  Not spacious by any means, but enough to stretch out in.
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Post by: worktroll on 01 November 2021, 12:33:09
As for the rivers, you have two wonderful oceans around Australia.   Should be plenty of opportunity for anyone to sail or motor there in your beloved sun-drenched land of bikinis. 

I listened to my father, who was RN in WW2: "A life on the ocean wave, is the key to a watery grave ..." Aircraft carriers and a brief stint in subs in the Med, so I always figured he knew what he was talking about. Inland waterways, he never voiced an opinion.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 01 November 2021, 12:43:41
I listened to my father, who was RN in WW2: "A life on the ocean wave, is the key to a watery grave ..." Aircraft carriers and a brief stint in subs in the Med, so I always figured he knew what he was talking about. Inland waterways, he never voiced an opinion.

From what I've read, Australia's coast on the Indian Ocean commonly produces waves over 6 meters.  And the passage between NSW and Tasmania has currents that can really surprise the novice sailor.

So your father might have the right of it. 
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Post by: worktroll on 01 November 2021, 12:47:55
Find some footage of the Sydney to Hobart boatrace of 1998.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 01 November 2021, 13:11:03
Wow, that really was the worst year for that race.  Six sailors died, five yachts sunk down to Davey Jones' Locker. 

Yeah, I'd rather just hang out at the beach, if I were there. 
...
So today the lock we need to travel through is being dredged out.  That means we're staying one more night in Alton.  We're not traveling at night on an unfamiliar river, even with radar and good charts.
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 November 2021, 16:03:47
Oops
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Post by: rebs on 01 November 2021, 17:29:56
Painting of a riverboat on the Mississippi, with dock workers.  I love local and folk art.

This is from downtown Alton while I walked to a grocery store.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 01 November 2021, 18:57:41
I've already lost count of how many levels of meta that is!  :o
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: guardiandashi on 01 November 2021, 19:38:00
so my dad was vietnam era service.

he was paying attention and figured he was on short time for the draft, so he thought about it (did not want to head to canada) but was also not a big fan of hiking, camping and similar.  so he figured at least in the navy you get a bunk to sleep in each night... so he went down and signed up with the us navy recruiter, the next day he got the draft notice in the mail, took it back down to the navy recruiter and they took it from him and told him they would deal with it because he was THEIRS for the enlistment period.

and that is how my dad avoided the draft by 1 day.

more recently he has gotten flack from some people (former service) who served "feet dry" in country they initially claimed he didn't really serve.  he definitely has a way of flipping that around, he asked if they ever had fighters come in and support them while they were in country and asked where the runway was that those fighters deployed from, because he wasn't familiar with any air force runways in range to fly from, on the other hand there were a lot of navy fighters doing missions and operating from "mobile runways" my dad served on the coral sea so he was supporting said missions.  All of a sudden a lot of those guys were thanking him for his service.
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Post by: Daryk on 01 November 2021, 19:42:52
My dad had a similar experience, but not quite the same.  Apparently "4F" standards were different for volunteers and draftees...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 01 November 2021, 21:01:07
I am always one to thank people who served for their service, volunteer or draft. 

And I know there are many service members who frequent these forums.  I thank all of them too, for defending my freedom to live the peaceful life that I love.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Dynodragon on 02 November 2021, 07:17:43
Saw this story a few weeks ago of Kiwi's struggling to get home due to Covid deciding to sail from Australia! talk about desparate or insane.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/27/a-catamaran-and-a-plan-desperate-to-get-home-new-zealanders-set-sail-across-the-tasman (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/27/a-catamaran-and-a-plan-desperate-to-get-home-new-zealanders-set-sail-across-the-tasman)
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 02 November 2021, 19:05:06
The Gateway Arch at St. Louis, Missouri.   

Tonight we're at Kalkaskia Dam and Lock after covering 86 miles since 6:30am. 

Longest day on record for us.  We'll do it all again tomorrow.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 02 November 2021, 19:12:36
"Do it all again tomorrow" is sadly my life for the next three years, without all the AWESOME scenery...   :-\
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 02 November 2021, 19:36:29
But, you do important work for the nation.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 02 November 2021, 19:38:31
You doing you is one of the reasons I do that "important work"... please keep it up!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 03 November 2021, 15:59:00
Started early today.  Made it to Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and still before 4pm local time.  No place to dock, but we found a great anchorage inside the bend here.

Time to eat, then troll the forums!
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Post by: rebs on 03 November 2021, 18:45:15
Some more pictures...

Above is Cape Girardeau at sunset, and below is the bridge at Cape Girardeau lit up at night.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 03 November 2021, 19:14:22
Excellent pics!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Wrangler on 03 November 2021, 20:51:14
Nice timing for the photo, their gorgeous.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 03 November 2021, 20:55:25
Thanks, guys!

Timing is everything when it comes to sunsets, especially.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 04 November 2021, 15:09:43
When I say "barge traffic sucks", this picture is what I mean...
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Post by: Daryk on 04 November 2021, 18:46:41
Those look like windows instead of containers... do they really move PEOPLE by barge these days? ???
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 04 November 2021, 18:59:08
No, those are grain containers.  Empty, that's why it's riding high.  One after another goes up river to get grain for sale all over the world.

There are also chemical hauler barges, barges carrying fuel, barges for rock, gravel, and dirt, and barges full of  fertilizer.

Barges all day!  And it only gets more hectic as you get further south on the Mississippi.   That's another huge reason we're taking the way we are.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 04 November 2021, 19:06:58
I suppose it's only a matter of time before they figure out they can stack the cargo two-high if they increase the height of the bridge of the tug...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 04 November 2021, 19:09:42
Here's a good shot of a tug.  They are pretty strong.  I saw one today before we anchored pushing *30* barges, five wide and six deep.

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Post by: Daryk on 04 November 2021, 19:37:30
That definitely looks stronger than the harbor tugs I'm used to...
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Post by: rebs on 05 November 2021, 14:00:51
Made it to the Ohio River today.  Check out this tugboat...
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Post by: Daryk on 05 November 2021, 19:14:02
That's some serious horsepower there!  :o
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 05 November 2021, 20:49:13
Check out this dredger.  It looks like Toe Cutter should be piloting it.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 05 November 2021, 21:04:21
Check out this dredger.  It looks like Toe Cutter should be piloting it.

No kidding.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 05 November 2021, 21:09:34
That totally looks like Orks built it...  ^-^
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 05 November 2021, 22:26:53
Like an Orcish Dreadnought from the original War craft game. 

Anyway, tonight we made it to Paducah, Kentucky.  After 12 hours of motoring, I was so glad to jump off onto a dock and tie the boat off to the cleats after 4 nights of anchoring out. 
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 06 November 2021, 06:58:04
Check out this dredger.  It looks like Toe Cutter should be piloting it.

The looks like a salvage tug and an oil rig got really drunk one night...
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Post by: Daryk on 06 November 2021, 08:39:03
Heh... and then got a red paint job to go faster!  :D
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 06 November 2021, 19:23:53
Already off the Ohio River, and off the Cumberland River as well.  Both rivers were a fight, the current was strong, and we were going against it both days. 

Tonight we are anchored in Lake Barkley, just above a TVA hydroelectric plant located on the dam.

Here's a picture.  Note the train tracks that run on top of the dam...
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Post by: Daryk on 06 November 2021, 19:30:24
Excellent pics!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 06 November 2021, 19:43:33
Thank you!
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Post by: worktroll on 07 November 2021, 00:31:20
Definitely great pics! You're taking a core sample of 20th Century industrial development in the US.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 07 November 2021, 08:29:33
Then you may like this one too.  Inside the lock at Barkley Dam.  Check out the waterline, as well as the tiny guard rail on the top walkway.
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Post by: DEZOAT on 07 November 2021, 08:35:47
 :thumbsup: Thanks for the pics of your trip down to Florida. Keep safe.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 07 November 2021, 08:42:32
Thanks, everyone! Reporting on my journey is as fun as the trip itself.
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Post by: Daryk on 07 November 2021, 08:51:22
Pics like that really drive home how much bigger the vessels the lock was built for are...  :o
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 07 November 2021, 09:01:20
No doubt.  We were in the lock with a six hundred foot long barge and tug.  It raised us up sixty two feet.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Wrangler on 08 November 2021, 08:35:03
Must be a process cruising through the locks among these massive cargo vessels.

You must have felt you were barging in.  8)
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Post by: rebs on 08 November 2021, 08:46:29
Lol, we did!  Nice thing is they let us get out first, because the prop wash from the tugboat would have beaten us like an egg.

Check out the marina we're at.
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Post by: guardiandashi on 08 November 2021, 12:15:32
not my images but:
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2018/09/18/15771018/Ridgefield.png
thats an image from the air looking south on the marina in my town
we have 2 wildlife refuges one is to the south  and the other is north of town

anyway I think that pic is at least a couple years old, because the railroad crossing has been ripped out, and now there is a bridge that goes over the tracks and curves around to run parallel to the railroad tracks where the old crossing was.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 08 November 2021, 13:03:16
That's a cool marina!  We see a lot of marinas on the rivers that we can't get into because they are only 3 feet deep.  Our draft is 4.5 feet, so it limits us a little bit.
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Post by: rebs on 08 November 2021, 14:25:46
Fall colors everywhere, even here...
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Post by: guardiandashi on 08 November 2021, 15:55:46
That's a cool marina!  We see a lot of marinas on the rivers that we can't get into because they are only 3 feet deep.  Our draft is 4.5 feet, so it limits us a little bit.
heh thats because a lot of the rivers in the central and eastern part of the us are pretty shallow. I happen to be near vancouver, wa

my dad has a story he told about going fishing with my grandfather (moms dad) they were fishing on the cedar river in eastern iowa.
Grampa said the river was low and clear... it was mostly about 6inches to a couple feet deep, and dad had issues seeing the tops of the toes of his waders in water that wasn't above his ankles.

a couple years after this grampa came to visit and dad took him fishing on the east fork of the lewis river ~20 miles away or so.  dad said grandpa should not try to step on that rock about 1/2 way down the side of the hole they were fishing in, because dad noticed a blue tint to the water.  grandpa tried to touch the rock with the tip of his fly rod... and the tip didn't even get 1/2 way down to the rock with an ~18ft fly rod before the reel was touching the water.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 08 November 2021, 19:29:35
My experience of rivers in the West was of FAST ones.  Rapids all the way.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 08 November 2021, 20:15:43
Yup, our rivers on the West Coast are deep and swift, unlike those lazy streams in the east and midwest.
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Post by: Kerfuffin(925) on 08 November 2021, 20:21:07
West coast just has angry streams. If you can throw a rock to the other side of a “river” it’s not much of a river.  ;D

I have very much enjoyed watching you roll through my old stomping grounds.
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Post by: guardiandashi on 08 November 2021, 21:13:40
the river by my town where the marina is that I linked is pretty slow I am going to say the current is likely in the 1 mile per hour range but I wouldn't be surprised if its between 10 and 20+ ft deep where the marina is
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 08 November 2021, 21:35:57
Yeah, the TVA lakes are all five feet low (winter pool it is called).  So on a chart when it says 9 feet, it's actually 4 feet, and we draft 4.5, so...   

Got to keep an eye on the depth finder, as well as the charts.  We should be fine.  Between Angry Lake Huron, Blustery Lake Michigan, the Muddy Mississippi,  and the stifling currents of the Ohio and Cumberland Rivers, we have passed the worst.  Now it's easy mode. 

Except waiting for parts.  Like now.  We're waiting on an alternator, a belt, and a spotlight.   We aren't broken down, we just want this stuff just in case.
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Post by: worktroll on 13 November 2021, 00:31:00
Still waiting on parts? Been a few days, missed the pics & events.
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Post by: rebs on 13 November 2021, 00:58:20
Still waiting on parts? Been a few days, missed the pics & events.

We just got the parts this evening, and tomorrow we'll put them on.  An alternator and belt, a new searchlight,  and a few other things. 

We'll be on the waterway again Sunday morning.  And since this is the narrow western part of Kentucky, we don't have far to go until we're in Tennessee.   Sunday evening we'll be there.
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Post by: rebs on 14 November 2021, 17:34:14
We left early this morning, and made it to Paris Landing before sundown.  Goodbye, Kentucky.  Hello, Tennessee.

No pictures today.  It was cold, rainy, and windy, so I wasn't thinking about anything except turning up the diesel heater after tying off at the marina here.
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Post by: Daryk on 14 November 2021, 17:48:54
'Tis the season... no worries!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: guardiandashi on 14 November 2021, 20:09:12
some things I have been watching intermittently on discovery are:
homestead rescue
building off grid
and the moonshiners, moonshiners master distillers

and frankly the moonshiners show is right up there with the street racers show for doing/being stupid

with that said the moonshiners are in kentucky/Tennessee areas but often back up in the hills /woods
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Post by: rebs on 14 November 2021, 20:25:26
Yep, we're going straight north to south in western Tennessee.   Not so many moonshiners here.  Eastern Tennessee is where the moonshine flows like spring water...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 15 November 2021, 18:08:30
Stopped for the night at Cuba Landing marina on the Tennessee River.   Nice place!

Earlier, we passed this old grain elevator just sticking up out of the middle of Lake Kentucky. It was flooded out in 1944 when the lake was filled in behind the dam.
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Post by: Daryk on 15 November 2021, 19:43:17
I suppose cost-benefit calculations were a little different back then...
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Post by: rebs on 15 November 2021, 20:22:00
Who knows how old the building was before it was flooded.  But, yeah, old infrastructure was sacrificed for new.  All day we pass right over spots labeled on our charts that say things like "flooded bridge", or "flooded roadway", etc.  It's a whole world flooded under this lake.

Anyway, here's a shot of the front end of the marina we're staying at tonight.  The trees are in full autumnal glory.
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Post by: Daryk on 15 November 2021, 20:25:55
Glory indeed!  8)
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Post by: rebs on 16 November 2021, 16:45:36
Stopped for the night in Clifton, Tennessee.   Little city marina, but the restaurant is said to be nice.  I'm all for that.

Check out these rocky bluffs from earlier in the day.  When we motored past them, the depth finder went from 35 feet deep to over 70.  The power of flowing water and time is truly amazing.
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 November 2021, 16:50:08
How are you going to Florida? You're not taking Mississippi right?
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 16 November 2021, 17:00:48
How are you going to Florida? You're not taking Mississippi right?

We're on the Tennessee River.   In two days we will turn off on a canal that leads through north eastern Mississippi, then through central Alabama,  then to the Mobile River which goes south to the Gulf of Mexico.

It sounds difficult,  but there is plenty of fuel along the way.  On the Mississippi River,  there is no diesel fuel stop between Memphis and New Orleans.

Besides.  This way is prettier.  Check out the lighthouse.
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Post by: Daryk on 16 November 2021, 20:46:13
Sweet pic, that!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 16 November 2021, 21:16:27
Thanks, man.  All my pics are taken with my cellphone, believe it or not.

Anyway, here's a website for the Waterway we are taking.  It's a US Army Corps of Engineers web page.  Check it out.  It will explain everything.

https://www.sam.usace.army.mil/Missions/Civil-Works/Recreation/Tennessee-Tombigbee-Waterway/

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/bemjTnuMc-ZWdD7fZkeFczuExk5dzc30TJHeu_PWkkLTi_tiTaQXV8onr_aFGjVn7irzhWmNQdkah-4W8Mex4L0kukCF)
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 17 November 2021, 03:41:58
This is seriously a once in a lifetime experience Rebs, glad you are making the most of it.

I can almost feel the boat rocking underneath me.
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Post by: Daryk on 17 November 2021, 04:34:42
Thanks for the map!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 17 November 2021, 18:49:38
Made it to Pickwick Lake.  Had to fight a nasty current for five hours before the huge dam and hydroelectric plant.

We're anchored out at Pickwick Landing and State Park, about to eat dinner.

Here's a shot of the sunset over the dam and highway that passes over it.
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Post by: Daryk on 17 November 2021, 19:40:17
Another gorgeous shot!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 18 November 2021, 03:50:27
Glorious!
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Post by: Wrangler on 18 November 2021, 07:04:08
I'm glad the waterway exists so you can do it.  Doesn't sound like the Mississippi is really friendly casual sailing/cruising.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2021, 09:41:25
Thanks, everyone!  We're taking it slow this morning, about to head for Grand View Harbor Marina.  On the map above its right where the red dotted line intersects the Tennessee River.   We're just 9 miles away from it, so today will be easy peasy. 

And yes, Wrangler, this way is much more friendly for travelers like us.  The Mississippi is mostly for commercial traffic.  But if you have a gasoline powered craft (with a big gas tank), it is good for that.  Just no diesel, so it's not an option.

There were places that sold diesel on it, but they were destroyed recently in floods and storms.
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 18 November 2021, 18:01:05
Thanks, everyone!  We're taking it slow this morning, about to head for Grand View Harbor Marina.  On the map above its right where the red dotted line intersects the Tennessee River.   We're just 9 miles away from it, so today will be easy peasy. 

And yes, Wrangler, this way is much more friendly for travelers like us.  The Mississippi is mostly for commercial traffic.  But if you have a gasoline powered craft (with a big gas tank), it is good for that.  Just no diesel, so it's not an option.

There were places that sold diesel on it, but they were destroyed recently in floods and storms.

I'm astounded that there are places that sell gas but not diesel, seems like an odd move.

Loving this scenic tour Rebs, can't wait to see the gulf.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2021, 18:06:21
In the Gulf, we plan on going to New Orleans, the Dry Tortugas, the Keys, and finally, the Bahamas.

I'll have to start a new thread for touring the Gulf and Caribbean by boat!
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2021, 18:26:14
So tonight we are at the Grand Harbor Resort and Marina.   On the map above it's at the intersection of the Tennessee River and the red dotted line (the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway).

Here's a picture.  It's ritzy and so it's kind of expensive, but very nice all the same.
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Post by: Daryk on 18 November 2021, 21:34:54
Ritzy is an understatement... look at all those balconies!  ;D
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2021, 21:47:05
Yep, it's actually condos.  They do have cabins in the hills behind it, but they are not cheap.  So we're staying in our boat in a rented slip for $40.  Plus diesel.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: guardiandashi on 18 November 2021, 22:23:22
I'm astounded that there are places that sell gas but not diesel, seems like an odd move.

Loving this scenic tour Rebs, can't wait to see the gulf.
from what Rebs has said, there normally is diesel available, but some "issues" within the last year disrupted and or damaged the storage and or supply, and there was more demand for gas so that portion has been restored, while the less demand diesel hasn't been restored.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 18 November 2021, 23:45:20
Pretty much.  There's been quite a bit of flooding on the lower Mississippi, and storms also have taken their toll.  For whatever reasons (and there are many), diesel can only be bought in Memphis and New Orleans,  but nowhere in between. 
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Wrangler on 19 November 2021, 13:56:28
I guess there no high demand for Diesel Fuel.  Well, at least allow for sight seeing.  Are you and your father by yourselves doing this?  Not usual excursion you're doing.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 19 November 2021, 14:25:39
Yes, it's just me and dad.  And it's more than sightseeing.   We're moving to Florida, and this is how we're taking the boat down permanently.   

If we ever go back to the Great Lakes and Michigan, we will be visitors.  And also, we will go up the east coast and go through New York City, then the Erie Canal to Lake Erie and go that way.
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Post by: idea weenie on 19 November 2021, 21:17:20
I guess there no high demand for Diesel Fuel.  Well, at least allow for sight seeing.  Are you and your father by yourselves doing this?  Not usual excursion you're doing.

Or no constant demand for diesel.  A tugboat might need diesel, but it needs far more of it at rarer intervals than a personal boat.

For a relatively easy example, to support tugboats you would have 1 station with 10,000 gallons of diesel, while for personal boats you might want 10 stations each with 1,000 gallons of diesel.  The same total amount is provided, but the personal boats don't use the path because they don't have a convenient place to fill up.  Since personal boats don't use the path there is no reason to build a station with 1,000 gallons of diesel, meaning there is never a reason for personal bots to ever come in that direction
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 19 November 2021, 22:07:48
Or no constant demand for diesel.  A tugboat might need diesel, but it needs far more of it at rarer intervals than a personal boat.

For a relatively easy example, to support tugboats you would have 1 station with 10,000 gallons of diesel, while for personal boats you might want 10 stations each with 1,000 gallons of diesel.  The same total amount is provided, but the personal boats don't use the path because they don't have a convenient place to fill up.  Since personal boats don't use the path there is no reason to build a station with 1,000 gallons of diesel, meaning there is never a reason for personal bots to ever come in that direction

Yeah, this is what surprises me. Our waterways are nowhere near as populated as yours, and not generally seen as a good way to move freight. I'm just used to seeing diesel where ever there is petoleum. I find it odd when it's not there, that's all.
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Post by: guardiandashi on 20 November 2021, 17:08:17
Yeah, this is what surprises me. Our waterways are nowhere near as populated as yours, and not generally seen as a good way to move freight. I'm just used to seeing diesel where ever there is petroleum. I find it odd when it's not there, that's all.
oh I don't disagree.  I suspect the reality is a bit more complicated, and most of the MARINAS, made a calculated decision to not bother restoring their diesel capacity, while the road side stations that provide fuel for semis, trucks and automobiles had their diesel restored quickly, but part of rebs issue is he doesn't really have an easy way to get to those stations, so the alternate route he is taking is more viable
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Post by: Cannonshop on 20 November 2021, 17:36:24
oh I don't disagree.  I suspect the reality is a bit more complicated, and most of the MARINAS, made a calculated decision to not bother restoring their diesel capacity, while the road side stations that provide fuel for semis, trucks and automobiles had their diesel restored quickly, but part of rebs issue is he doesn't really have an easy way to get to those stations, so the alternate route he is taking is more viable

arguably prettier too, and more of an adventure (in the good sense, not the bad).

Rebs, it's too bad you weren't recording this trip for something like Youtube, it's the kind of thing that gets sponsorships and makes money.
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Post by: rebs on 20 November 2021, 17:44:59
I document it here and on FakeBook.  I might do a blog or a YouTube channel when we get to the islands, though.

And as for diesel demand on the Mississippi,  it's a "build it and they will come" situation.   Right now there's no demand for it from pleasure craft because pleasure craft aren't really going that way.   But demand on the Tennessee-Tombigbee is through the roof because of the situation.
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Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 20 November 2021, 17:53:16
I've heard that the lower Mississippi has really become dominated by shipping traffic.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 November 2021, 17:54:16
Was it ever not dominated by shipping?  ???
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 20 November 2021, 17:57:44
There used to be more variety of boat traffic on the river.  From what I've heard, shipping is very close to being the only thing left- the fishing and human transportation industries have both withered.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 November 2021, 18:44:50
That makes sense, thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 20 November 2021, 19:20:45
Yep!  Thusly, we will be sneaking over to New Orleans on the Gulf.  I've never been there, I will not be cheated by lack of fuel supply!
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Post by: rebs on 20 November 2021, 21:04:00
So we stopped for the night at a place called Midway Marina, in Fulton, Mississippi.  Got two bars on my phone, decent wifi, and hot showers.  Life is pretty good!

So last night we anchored out on a blue lake pictured below.  Beautiful but austere.  No phone service.  When people use the word "backwater" they were talking about this lake in northeastern Mississippi, I'm absolutely certain.

Next we were in a lock that took us down off of the southern edges of Appalachia 92 feet.

Then my morning had a rose glow and a full moon.  I was too tired to stay up and see the lunar eclipse, but with mornings like this, who cares.

And lastly, I have a love of sunsets.  Everyone who knows me knows that.
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Post by: Daryk on 20 November 2021, 23:16:01
92 feet!  :o
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Post by: rebs on 20 November 2021, 23:22:04
Fourth largest lock in the US.  "Large" being measured in drop/lift, not area.
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 20 November 2021, 23:58:50
Very nice Rebs, love that sunset. They just look better on water.
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Post by: rebs on 21 November 2021, 16:31:21
Got an early start this morning, and we're already anchored for the night north of Aberdeen, Mississippi.   It's supposed to storm after sundown and continue raining until 2AM.

Here's a picture of the tributary we're anchored on.  The calm before the storm.
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Post by: Daryk on 21 November 2021, 16:40:37
Calm indeed... I hope the storm isn't too bad..
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Post by: DEZOAT on 21 November 2021, 16:41:10
 :o 8) :thumbsup: Thanks for the pics. Oh by the way did you and Dad see the lunar Eclipse on Friday?
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Post by: rebs on 21 November 2021, 18:10:35
No, I was tired and slept through the eclipse.  The picture with the moon is from the morning after.
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Post by: rebs on 22 November 2021, 08:18:00
Calm indeed... I hope the storm isn't too bad..

It wasn't too bad.  It rained all night accompanied by thunder and lightning, but the winds weren't strong, thankfully.   

Still, it's colder this morning, and tomorrow morning will be even colder yet.  But that's all why we're going as far south as we can.

Relatively short run today.  We're headed to Columbus Marina in the city of Columbus, Mississippi.  Showers, laundry, wifi, and a night of not worrying about an anchor.
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Post by: rebs on 22 November 2021, 15:26:58
And that's that.  We're docked at Columbus Marina.  Ready for pizza, showers and laundry, in more or less that order. 

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Post by: rebs on 22 November 2021, 18:20:03
Pictures of our boat in the lock at Pickwick Dam.  Note that the mast is still down for getting under bridges along the way.
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Post by: Daryk on 22 November 2021, 19:30:08
That's a good size boat!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 22 November 2021, 20:22:24
Yeah, it's a Hunter.  33 ft length, 12 wide.  We each have our own cabins that sleep two.  Has a full but small kitchen (the galley), one head, and a good sized sitting area where I have my laptop.

Let me go get pictures...

Top, the part of the sitting area, the galley, and the companion way (entrance in normal parlance).

Middle, my cabin/bunk.

Bottom, the boat as pictured in the Hammond, Indiana,  the marina was attached to the Horseshoe Casino.  At the time we had just constructed the braces to hold up the mast ourselves.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 22 November 2021, 20:27:07
Pictures of our boat in the lock at Pickwick Dam.  Note that the mast is still down for getting under bridges along the way.

If you don't mind me asking, how long does it take you to step/unstep the mast?
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Post by: Daryk on 22 November 2021, 20:28:33
Nice pics that will help with scale for those just joining the conversation!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 22 November 2021, 20:45:22
If you don't mind me asking, how long does it take you to step/unstep the mast?

Provided we have use of a gin pole, it takes an hour and a half to set it up, including all the stays.  Then we just have to unfurl the main sail and raise the jib. 

We're headed for Turner Marina in Mobile, Alabama,  which does indeed have a gin pole.  It will cost about $400 for use of the equipment and a small crew of two guys to help us, but it's just one more cost of having a boat.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 22 November 2021, 23:41:17
Provided we have use of a gin pole, it takes an hour and a half to set it up, including all the stays.  Then we just have to unfurl the main sail and raise the jib. 

We're headed for Turner Marina in Mobile, Alabama,  which does indeed have a gin pole.  It will cost about $400 for use of the equipment and a small crew of two guys to help us, but it's just one more cost of having a boat.

Boat: Acronym meaning Break Out Another Thousand...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 November 2021, 01:49:16
Boat: Acronym meaning Break Out Another Thousand...

Boat: A hole in the water that you pour money into.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 23 November 2021, 07:32:04
Boat: Acronym meaning Break Out Another Thousand...
Boat: A hole in the water that you pour money into.

The two best days of a boater's life are the day they buy their boat, and the day they sell it.

However, I would argue with this notion, being as this adventure has been so much fun.  But then, I'm not the boat owner, my dad is.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 23 November 2021, 18:20:57
Today we left Mississippi, and we are now in central Alabama.  We're anchored out again tonight, about to eat fresh made burgers and fries.  Nothing like galley cooking after a long day (7:30am to 5:00pm).

Check out this picture of a US Army Corps of Engineers tug pushing two barges, one with a huge crane, and the other with stone to shore up parts of the river and canals.  These men and women do great work, let me tell you first hand. 

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Post by: Daryk on 23 November 2021, 18:57:46
Glad to see them at work!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Wrangler on 23 November 2021, 19:46:57
You should publish diary of you're journey.  With these pictures, it would be a interesting read.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 23 November 2021, 19:50:11
You should publish diary of you're journey.  With these pictures, it would be a interesting read.

This pretty much is my journal.  I share it with you all.  And I post on FakeBook too.  Maybe when we get to the islands, I'll do a YouTube channel.

Nice thing about being in the middle of nowhereville is All The Stars!  The sky is painted with the Milky Way.

So glad I have bars on my phone enough to post about it.
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Post by: Wrangler on 23 November 2021, 19:51:57
Take pictures! I live New England, there so much light pollution here when I was kid I thought the stars were dying. 
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Post by: rebs on 23 November 2021, 19:53:43
If I had a better camera, I would.  My phone doesn't do good at night.
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 24 November 2021, 05:24:01
If I had a better camera, I would.  My phone doesn't do good at night.

Night time photography is really tough even with a good camera. :(

Nothing like the night sky over the water though, it's an amazing sight, and when there's no wind, no cloud, stars reflecting in the mirror smooth surface, you can't really tell where the sky ends and the water begins.

Damnit, now I miss being at sea!
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Post by: rebs on 24 November 2021, 07:43:52
How about foggy morning?
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Post by: Daryk on 24 November 2021, 15:43:34
Nice tulle fog, there!  8)
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Post by: rebs on 24 November 2021, 19:10:06
Thanks!  An hour earlier and it was like zombie fog.

Anyway, we motored from dawn til dusk, and made it to a place called Kingfisher Bay Marina in Demopolis, Alabama.   Very nice place here, and aptly named in my opinion.   

We're taking two days off due to holidays and cold weather on Friday.   Until then, check out these white limestone cliffs at Epes, Alabama,  and below that, a shot of a barge on pristine mirror-like water.
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Post by: Daryk on 24 November 2021, 19:19:10
The White Cliffs of Alabama?  Who knew??  :o
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Post by: rebs on 24 November 2021, 19:21:25
I know it!  The place should be called Dover, Alabama.   Would be more fitting.
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Post by: Daryk on 24 November 2021, 19:22:49
Indeed!  Have a happy Thanksgiving!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 24 November 2021, 19:42:16
Will do!  They're doing some kind of potluck tomorrow here at the marina.  We just happen to have ham and stove top stuffing, so we're sharing it.

Have a happy Thanksgiving to you and everyone else who reads this thread!
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Post by: worktroll on 25 November 2021, 00:07:58
And to you and your dad!
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Post by: DEZOAT on 25 November 2021, 10:06:02
 ;D Thanks for more pics. I hope you and your Dad have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. Oh by the way like how cold is it down there?  We just had 20 and 30 up here in Michigan but it back in the 40 temps.
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Post by: rebs on 25 November 2021, 10:23:40
And to you and your dad!

Thank you, WT.

;D Thanks for more pics. I hope you and your Dad have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. Oh by the way like how cold is it down there?  We just had 20 and 30 up here in Michigan but it back in the 40 temps.

It's going to be 71 here in Demopolis today.  But tomorrow will be a high of 52.  Saturday, when we get back on it, will be low 60's. 
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Post by: Daryk on 25 November 2021, 10:25:41
The low last night here in Arlington VA was below 30.  Glad you're having warmer weather, being you're immersed in water.  My first tour, we endured dry dock in Connecticut in the winter.... brrrr....
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 25 November 2021, 10:48:32
Michigan winters have me more or less immune to all but the most extreme cold.

But still, being on a boat makes it automatically feel ten degrees colder.  So Friday we're staying in port.  Also, I'll have wifi to download the latest goodies to be had.   :)
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 26 November 2021, 08:21:10
But still, being on a boat makes it automatically feel ten degrees colder.

Aint that the truth! So cold when you're surrounded by water, especially inland away from the sea.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: worktroll on 26 November 2021, 13:54:33
I'm a meteorologist by training, and yes, the amount of heat water can absorb with minimal change in temperature is incredible, as is it's ability to absorb heat through conduction.  And then don't get into evaporation or condensation ...
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Post by: Daryk on 26 November 2021, 13:57:39
Physicist by training here, and I double stamp everything Worktroll just said!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: guardiandashi on 26 November 2021, 14:35:49
I'm a meteorologist by training, and yes, the amount of heat water can absorb with minimal change in temperature is incredible, as is it's ability to absorb heat through conduction.  And then don't get into evaporation or condensation ...
i've joked for years I live next to the biggest heat sink in the world...
I live in sw washington, near portland, OR
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 26 November 2021, 15:15:34
And I feel all this in my bones as we motor down the river system.   

Closely related: we have a Reverse Cycle heating and cooling system on the boat.  It sucks in water and uses it to either cool or heat, depending on setting.  But it doesn't work good on these rivers because they are so damned muddy!  When we get to Mobile and the marina there, we're going to clean it out and get it running. 
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Post by: rebs on 26 November 2021, 16:13:07
Let's review where I'm at, shall we?

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Dad and I are just below where the Tennessee-Tombigbee intersects the Tombigbee and Black Warrior Rivers in western Alabama.  We are about 4 and a half days out of our immediate goal, Mobile, Alabama.

I don't get tired of seeing that because I can almost taste the fresh caught shrimp.

I will likely not be able to post for the next four days, but I will if I can.  This part of the journey is a true backwater.
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Post by: rebs on 27 November 2021, 19:05:54
Wooohooo!  I have half a bar on my phone.  Woke up before dawn today.  We got going and went until after sundown.  Sixty seven miles total.  That's a high water mark on a sailboat. 

Anyway, I'll try to report again tomorrow.  Three and a half days to go!
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Post by: Daryk on 27 November 2021, 19:06:47
Great progress, and lucky find on having signal!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 27 November 2021, 19:14:12
It takes a few minutes to load every time I click on a link, but it's better than nothing.
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Post by: Kerfuffin(925) on 27 November 2021, 19:21:39
That’s gotta be the first time anyone was happy to get to Mobile.  ;D
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Post by: rebs on 27 November 2021, 19:36:14
When I actually get there, you will see true happy.
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Post by: idea weenie on 27 November 2021, 20:47:50
That’s gotta be the first time anyone was happy to get to Mobile.  ;D

So when he gets to Mobile, he won't be on mobile?
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Post by: rebs on 28 November 2021, 16:44:06
Made it to mile marker 97, so only two days from our destination.   I add a half a day just to be safe.

Check out these bluffs we just passed right before we anchored (and note how muddy the river water looks).
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Post by: Daryk on 28 November 2021, 16:46:58
That's a pretty slow moving river to be that muddy, it seems...
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Post by: rebs on 28 November 2021, 16:53:28
That's a pretty slow moving river to be that muddy, it seems...

The current is maybe one knot.  Enough to keep a boat at anchor from oscillating too much.

The only blue water I saw after Lake Michigan was in Mississippi, in one of the pictures I posted.
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 28 November 2021, 17:50:05
The current is maybe one knot.  Enough to keep a boat at anchor from oscillating too much.

The only blue water I saw after Lake Michigan was in Mississippi, in one of the pictures I posted.

Farm runoff?

That's what trashed most of our rivers. :(
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 28 November 2021, 18:15:18
Nah, it's pure mud.  The anchor comes up in the morning with globs of it.

Not a lot of farms in Alabama.  Lots of trees, though.
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Post by: rebs on 29 November 2021, 18:13:33
Only about 50 more miles to go until Mobile!  We will likely make it half a day early, by tomorrow this time I should be posting on good wifi.  Instead of hoping my post gets through on a half a bar of service.

Pictured below, a foggy morning was had.  But here it is clearing up nicely.  And the second pick is sandstone bluffs, called Claire's Bluff on the charts.
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Post by: Daryk on 29 November 2021, 18:54:46
The sun reflecting of the water through the fog is a nice effect!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 30 November 2021, 11:57:51
While we sat and waited the fog out this morning, this brave soul ventured out.  Of course, minutes later he was calling on the radio asking if anyone was out there.

Half an hour later, and the fog was cleared.
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Post by: Daryk on 30 November 2021, 18:07:43
I've been underway with MUCH less visibility, and I bet Nightlord01 has too...  still, that's a nice shot!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 30 November 2021, 18:14:00
We don't chance it.  It's a pleasure cruise, not a misery cruise!

But when we were on Lake Huron and Lake Michigan, yeah, we went through some really thick fog at night.  We sailed 24/7 to get out of that cold damp hell called the Great Lakes in October.  That was misery the whole time, stopping even for fog would just prolong it.
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Post by: rebs on 30 November 2021, 18:22:19
Is this a Littoral warship?  It was moored at the side of Mobile harbor.
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Post by: rebs on 30 November 2021, 18:26:15
By the way... WE MADE IT!  We're at Turner Marina in Mobile, Alabama.   Wifi, hot showers, and good people all around here.   The boating community is pretty damned friendly.   

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Post by: Daryk on 30 November 2021, 18:27:23
Yes, that's one of the designs.  The one behind it looks familiar too...

Congrats on making it to Mobile!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: rebs on 30 November 2021, 18:32:12
Here's a shot of it!
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Post by: Daryk on 30 November 2021, 18:48:36
Looks like a JHSV hull, but I thought they stopped making those...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 30 November 2021, 18:59:07
Maybe it's older? 
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Post by: Daryk on 30 November 2021, 19:26:05
Maybe... it's been a while since I saw the waterfront down in Norfolk...
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Post by: Wrangler on 30 November 2021, 22:23:31
2nd ship is a Spearhead JHSV, it's theater transport.  I don't see a hull number in your picture.  I think it's the future, USNS Apalachicola (T-EPF-13)

The first one is a LCS-32.  Independence Class ship, the future  USS Santa Barbara .

Very nice pictures!!
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 01 December 2021, 01:50:37
2nd ship is a Spearhead JHSV, it's theater transport.  I don't see a hull number in your picture.  I think it's the future, USNS Apalachicola (T-EPF-13)

The first one is a LCS-32.  Independence Class ship, the future  USS Santa Barbara .

Very nice pictures!!

Hmm, the LCV is an Austal design, the JHSV is an INCAT design. Curious that both are being built by Austal in the US.

I've been underway with MUCH less visibility, and I bet Nightlord01 has too...  still, that's a nice shot!  :thumbsup:

You bet, won't bore anyone with details, but let's just say that we have Blind pilotage closed up for very good reasons!
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: worktroll on 01 December 2021, 03:58:04
One of you was subs, wasn't it?

My dad was RN, aircraft fitter on carriers in the Med. Did a couple of months on IIRC an S-boat, because they were desperate for engine crew. Never again ...
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 01 December 2021, 04:18:52
Started in subs, qualified OOD on a carrier.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 01 December 2021, 18:38:07
Got the Reverse Cycle Pump cleaned out and running perfectly today.  Check.  Heat and AC are good to have. 

Friday we take the mast off the boat and put it on land to do work on it, so that on Monday (tentatively) we can put it back upright for sailing. 

Things are slowly proceeding. 

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Post by: Daryk on 01 December 2021, 20:43:38
Progress is progress!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 01 December 2021, 20:47:19
I guess there's no rush since we already booked a month here. 

Either way, it's nice to unwind and relax.  As well as progress.
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Post by: Nightlord01 on 01 December 2021, 22:16:57
Enjoy your stay Rebs! I'm looking forward to more incredible pictures.
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Post by: Wrangler on 02 December 2021, 21:42:41
Best to take your time and enjoy the sights.  Who knows when you'll be there next time.  You should go see USS Alabama and it's park while your in the area.  If your into military museums.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 02 December 2021, 22:04:51
Well, don't forget, I'm actually moving to Florida.  I'll be cruising around the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Islands for years to come.

And I'll be seeing the USS Alabama, too.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 09 January 2022, 20:06:50
Well, we're still in Mobile! 

The boat is slowly getting prepared for the open sea.  My dad only planned a month here, but I secretly figured six weeks at least.   But that's OK.  The weather has mostly been good, so I don't mind.  I hope I never see snow ever again, personally. 

Anyway, to commemorate this journey of more than 2,000 miles (so far) with my dad, I finally got my Anchor tattoo today.  Check it out.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 09 January 2022, 20:10:34
Looks good!  Can't wait till the trip starts up again and you're on the Gulf.
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Post by: Daryk on 09 January 2022, 20:13:56
That's a good one!  The Navy discourages them these days.  If you get one, you have to explain it in a small mountain of paper work (what's it mean, why'd you get it, etc., etc.).

We had snow twice this week, and they "closed" the government Monday and Friday.  The trains were still running, so I made it in both days.  Monday was MUCH more productive than Friday, but both were better than anything in between.  We'll see how this next week goes...
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Post by: rebs on 09 January 2022, 20:27:49
Thanks, guys.

Yes, I've heard about the military, and government agencies (think FBI, CIA, etc...) that now frown on "identifying marks".  They are allowed, but yeah, they will give you a hard time about it, and I do not doubt the paperwork involved. 

It's snowed a ton in Detroit since we left.  And ice storms.  I may have to see snow.  We're planning to fly back to Michigan to get the rest of our belongings and drive them down in a U-Haul, as well as bring the Buick down. 
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 09 January 2022, 20:50:40
I'm pretty sure that the military was discouraging tattoos 20 years ago when I considered enlisting.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 09 January 2022, 21:21:11
I'm pretty sure that the military was discouraging tattoos 20 years ago when I considered enlisting.

Really depends on what military I suppose, ours is relaxing all such requirements. Things like death iconography, facial tattoos, and other controversial topics are banned outright, but by and large they are now permitted by all services.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 10 January 2022, 01:18:40
The US military.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: worktroll on 10 January 2022, 03:41:05
Well, it does mean my daughter-in-law makes good money doing laser tattoo removal ... which takes longer, and is more painful, than getting the tattoo.

But like the lady who got a Russian Orthodox cross from nape to waist and between the shoulderblades, who then married a Serb, whatcha going to do?
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 10 January 2022, 04:28:37
I'm pretty sure that the military was discouraging tattoos 20 years ago when I considered enlisting.
The discouragement waxes and wanes in intensity over time.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 10 January 2022, 12:06:41
Well, it does mean my daughter-in-law makes good money doing laser tattoo removal ... which takes longer, and is more painful, than getting the tattoo.

But like the lady who got a Russian Orthodox cross from nape to waist and between the shoulderblades, who then married a Serb, whatcha going to do?

I put so much thought and time in before getting a new tattoo, I'll never have to get them removed.  I have never had an impulsive tattoo.  Or a drunken tattoo, for that matter.

And though I have never served in the military, I have family members who have, and I respect all of our soldiers, sailors, flyers, and marines for fighting for the freedom that I cherish.  Tattooed or not.
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Post by: Known Glitch on 10 January 2022, 13:18:22
The discouragement waxes and wanes in intensity over time.

And the size/quality of the Enlisted recruiting pool. 
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Wrangler on 10 January 2022, 17:24:24
As long as you're happy with it and it don't cause problems for you.  It should be cool.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 10 January 2022, 18:47:46
I put so much thought and time in before getting a new tattoo, I'll never have to get them removed.  I have never had an impulsive tattoo.  Or a drunken tattoo, for that matter.

And though I have never served in the military, I have family members who have, and I respect all of our soldiers, sailors, flyers, and marines for fighting for the freedom that I cherish.  Tattooed or not.

I've got two, both drunken. 20 years later and I'm still happy with them. Not so much as body art, but as a reminder of times long ago in a very different world.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 10 January 2022, 19:05:53
Clearly I need to find you in a bar somewhere and buy you a drink or two to get those sea stories!  ;D
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 10 January 2022, 21:55:03
Clearly I need to find you in a bar somewhere and buy you a drink or two to get those sea stories!  ;D

I gotta say, it would be really great to get all the old servicemen on this forum together in a bar, although I'm not sure the place could handle it.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 10 January 2022, 22:00:07
I know a place...  there's a nice big bar across the river from my marina in Mobile.  It's called the River Shack.  At one end, live music, and the other end a fairly quiet bar where we could all talk.  And it's got the freshest shrimp ever. 
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 28 January 2022, 22:41:37
Well, the boat is more or less improved and ready to go. We put on a marine grade Balmar alternator, changed the belt to a serpentine belt with adjustable tensioner, got a new bigger and heavier anchor, and our inverter is now properly wired, though we still have yet to get the solar panels.  We'll do that in Florida at some point.

But that will be later.  The weather forecast is pretty much garbage for the foreseeable future, with a few days of nice weather scattered in between days of 30 to 50 knot winds, cold temperatures, and rain, rain, rain.

As I said before, this is a pleasure cruise, not a misery cruise.  So we're staying put.  But we have tickets to fly back to Detroit out of New Orleans (call it the Neo-French Connection) on February 12th, so we're renting a car on the 10th and driving into New Orleans.  We'll spend a couple days there seeing the sights before catching our flight the night of the 12th. 

Then we'll spend two weeks in Detroit, I have a doctors appointment, my dad has several appointments, too.  When we're ready we'll hook the trailer to the Buick, load up with all the rest of our possessions, then drive it down LaBelle, Florida to store everything, which will complete our move.

Next we have a friend in Lakeland, Florida, who will pick us up and drive us back to the boat.  Sometime in early March we'll get the boat down there, and possibly hit the Florida Keys as well.  We have some travelling to do!  But the weather should be greatly improved. 
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: worktroll on 28 January 2022, 23:05:34
Would love to see pics from the road trip from Detroit when you do that!
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 28 January 2022, 23:25:25
Would love to see pics from the road trip from Detroit when you do that!

I will.  Jellico Mountain along I-75 in northern Tennessee is particularly impressive.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: mikecj on 28 January 2022, 23:56:33
I gotta say, it would be really great to get all the old servicemen on this forum together in a bar, although I'm not sure the place could handle it.

We'd be perma-banned before page 3.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Nightlord01 on 29 January 2022, 04:13:18
We'd be perma-banned before page 3.

I'm betting we'd get to at least 4.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: Daryk on 29 January 2022, 05:43:02
That's only because there are more of us than moderators!  :D
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: God and Davion on 30 January 2022, 17:44:55
That's only because there are more of us than moderators!  :D

Hear, hear  ^-^ ^-^

I hope you have a safe travel Rebs.
Title: Re: So I'm Moving to Florida - By Boat
Post by: rebs on 30 January 2022, 17:50:27
Thank you, G&D.  Much appreciated.