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Oh the TPTB will deny it

I mean, he's their character. At the end of the day, if they say he's not a WoB plant... that, as they say, is that.

Personally, I think it'd be fun to just leave it unresolved. BattleTech needs more mystery, not less.
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I don't even understand why the Freeminders were a thing. What did they want that the Dominion didn't already provide?
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At the end of the day, if Alaric wants to make this new Star League of his stick, he needs the Dominion and what it brings to the table. What does Alaric gain from, as it reads to me in this book, intentionally destabilizing the Dominion like this? What's the endgame here?

If we're going to take a faction that 1) is historically slow to react, 2) characterized from the get-go as being family-oriented, 3) haven't shown a lick of interest in the Star League since the Great Refusal (and didn't bother showing up on Terra while having the means) and 4) spent the last twenty-ish real-world years building a relationship with the Rasalhagians to the point where they dismantled the caste system and gave civilians control of the government, we should at least see some sort of a build-up to a societal fracturing of this magnitude.
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Once again the freeminders get a few throw away lines. We could have had a magnificent reason for a civil war but meh let's do warden/Crusader 2 electric boogaloo.

like I said in the General Discussion thread, as much as I found the Freeminder thing anathema to already established lore, at least it was something the writer's ahd already started to build up, and could easily have used to do a civil war, instead of pulling the new storyline out of thin air...
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So...are the freeminders deliberately forgotten about? What could have been a major plot point was a few lines of oh they exist.

as much as I also thought the Freeminder storyline didn't make sense with past lore, at least they had started to build that up and could have used that instead to touch off the RasDom fractures, instead of coming up with something else seemingly out of thin air

What's your point? Both were much more extreme cases of collapse than faced by the Dominion.
the believability is not about how close they come to collapse, but how they get there

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"An issue that shouldn't really concern them".

You... you think swearing loyalty to the leader of another, much more conservative clan, who is a complete unknown to them, who still practices the caste system, eugenics program, and complete warrior supremacy after they'd spent decades breaking down all of those institutions and ensuring civilian control over their existing government... is something Rasalhagians wouldn't be concerned about?

Rasalhagians?

The ones that spent entire succession wars in varying degrees of active resistance to combine rule?

Those Rasalhagians?

Wouldn't care about possibly surrendering their sovereignty all over again?

Dude.
but you've made exactly my point...
DD would have you believe that 50% of the Rasalhagian population decided they want to surrender their sovereignty to a Clan Wolf ilClan/Star League

when I say they shouldn't be concerned with it, I mean they shouldn't even be entertaining the idea!
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What's your point? Both were much more extreme cases of collapse than faced by the Dominion.

"An issue that shouldn't really concern them".

You... you think swearing loyalty to the leader of another, much more conservative clan, who is a complete unknown to them, who still practices the caste system, eugenics program, and complete warrior supremacy after they'd spent decades breaking down all of those institutions and ensuring civilian control over their existing government... is something Rasalhagians wouldn't be concerned about?

Rasalhagians?

The ones that spent entire succession wars in varying degrees of active resistance to combine rule?

Those Rasalhagians?

Wouldn't care about possibly surrendering their sovereignty all over again?

Dude.

I think he's referring to the apparent majority gagging to do just that for a fairy tale Star League, and to kill for the pleasure of shining another set of clanner boots.
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The real question is why a meaningful number of Rasalhagians would think joining was any sort of good idea.
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Once again the freeminders get a few throw away lines. We could have had a magnificent reason for a civil war but meh let's do warden/Crusader 2 electric boogaloo.
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Let's see... he hijacked a high end prototype including the neurohelmet without any memories on his own.

Every victory he ever had was improbable (thus legendary).

His plan for the "Liberation" of Terra has more holes in it than a fishing net, and like most of his victories, couldn't have been achieved without active cooperation by his opponents with his plans.

Devlin Stone was a PLANT.

I still think Stone is a Plant as well and has no ideal.  Oh the TPTB will deny it but it fits.  Was in a WoB concentration game and was being programmed with all this military knowledge.  He was being created to do just what he did.  On top of what you said whole Divisions of Shadow Divisions just disapear without a trace. It is highly suggested that he was the one that actually caused the HPG blackout in the Dark Ages as well. His ROTS has lead to the one condition that could allow WoB to return as a hero.  A clan on Terra as IlClan!  The dude even made sure a second clan could get to Terra. Giving them zero chance to win.  It all sets up for a perfect way for WoB to return as the hero's they really were and would have been had the Houses not murdered the New Star League.
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poor military choices, other stuff I'm not too familiar with
the Clans themselves are very fanatical, and we're talking warfare between rival factions, rivalries that go down into the lower castes, not just among the warriors

What's your point? Both were much more extreme cases of collapse than faced by the Dominion.

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Inner Sphere civilians (ie. normal people) killing each other en masse, within the same faction, over an issue that shouldn't really concern them (it makes sense to concern the Clan population of the RasDom), is very unbelievable compared to the other storylines presented

"An issue that shouldn't really concern them".

You... you think swearing loyalty to the leader of another, much more conservative clan, who is a complete unknown to them, who still practices the caste system, eugenics program, and complete warrior supremacy after they'd spent decades breaking down all of those institutions and ensuring civilian control over their existing government... is something Rasalhagians wouldn't be concerned about?

Rasalhagians?

The ones that spent entire succession wars in varying degrees of active resistance to combine rule?

Those Rasalhagians?

Wouldn't care about possibly surrendering their sovereignty all over again?

Dude.
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