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AToW Is Back Baby!
« on: 06 July 2022, 22:30:03 »


As predicted based on the recent errata update, we're getting a reprint! And with a retro cover too! TSW-style!
« Last Edit: 06 July 2022, 22:31:44 by pokefan548 »
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #1 on: 07 July 2022, 04:39:51 »
I usually only pick up reprints in pdf, but that one I MUST have in hard copy!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #2 on: 07 July 2022, 07:41:28 »
I got to applaud them for that choice.
You gave Destiny the old MW1e look.
You give this one the old Succession Wars boxed set look.
That's a helluva send off for finalizing the reprints with old school covers.  :clap:
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« Reply #3 on: 07 July 2022, 07:55:53 »
Nothing will ever top the OG MW1e cover in my book, but this one is up there!  8)

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #4 on: 07 July 2022, 08:55:31 »
No more A Time of War?
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #5 on: 07 July 2022, 08:59:05 »
Eh, what? ???

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« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2022, 09:22:26 »
No more A Time of War?
Much more A Time of War.
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2022, 09:34:42 »
I'm glad we are getting it for the errata and the retro cover.

At the same time, we are due for a 2nd ed. with new mechanics. Looking back on the history of D&D as an example, they never went 13 years between versions. And considering the issues with AToW, I think it is time to address them.

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« Reply #8 on: 11 July 2022, 09:53:50 »
C:-) -MOD Directive-
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Not about Mechwarrior:Destiny or any comparisons to other RPG lines (CGL or not).

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #9 on: 11 July 2022, 10:16:56 »
Many thanks, Hammer.

And, on that note, it really will be nice to be able to get a physical copy without breaking the bank. Old-spine copy secondhand prices are just ridiculous, even for okay condition copies. Sadly, it's still probably going to be $45-$50, what with the shipping issues and paper shortages and whatnot, but that's still a fair sight better.
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #10 on: 13 July 2022, 10:32:36 »
based on the abnormally large size of AToW compared to the other books, $59.99 is not out of the question

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« Reply #11 on: 13 July 2022, 10:33:46 »
I don't mind paying for that gorgeous cover!  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #12 on: 13 July 2022, 11:38:42 »
i'm one of those filthy collectors and paid an unreasonable amount of money for the Companion so i'm also in to finish out the retro covers

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« Reply #13 on: 13 July 2022, 11:45:18 »
Darn thinking faster than I'm typing! Edited in the missing word above...  ::)

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« Reply #14 on: 14 July 2022, 08:05:34 »
Locked because people can't stop talking about games that aren't AToW in a thread about the first new release for AToW in who knows how long.
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« Reply #15 on: 14 July 2022, 17:48:39 »
MODERATOR NOTICE

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Some of you may have noticed I've pruned a couple more posts.  That's because they were talking about another RPG line, which my colleague was quite clear not to do:

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This is the second time we're unlocking this thread after pruning it and issuing warnings.  The second time one of us is leaving a message reminding people to stay on topic.  I'm very disappointed that we're at this point in what should be a thread celebrating a release of a portion of the BattleTech line that doesn't see as many.  The phrase "this is why we can't have nice things" comes to mind.

MechWarrior: Destiny is not a topic for this thread, whatever your opinion of the game.  Shadowrun, D&D, chess, none of them are topics for this thread either.  (That list was not chosen at random.)  We have a board for MechWarrior: Destiny, the others go in the Off-Topic board.  You are welcome to discuss those topics in the appropriate venues, this thread is not one of them.

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #16 on: 14 July 2022, 18:38:52 »
Obviously the retro cover still has to be fully printed and shipped, but I'm curious as to what the Mercs cover will look like down the line.

I know I'm skipping ahead a bit, but color me intrigued, now that I think of it.
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« Reply #17 on: 14 July 2022, 19:39:06 »
Mercs cover?  Is that going to be part of AToW somehow? ???

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« Reply #18 on: 14 July 2022, 20:04:38 »
Mercs cover?  Is that going to be part of AToW somehow? ???
All the core rulebooks that got retro cover reprints have been getting new, original "Mercenary" covers. See TM, SO, CO, and the upcoming TOs. Sometime down the line, I reckon AToW will get its own mercs cover reprint.
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« Reply #19 on: 14 July 2022, 20:32:03 »
Cool!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #20 on: 21 July 2022, 23:36:11 »
TO: Advanced Units and Equipment is getting an absolutely metal as ****** reprise of the TacOps cover so imagine your favorite RP-level art redone in the new art paradigm and smile.

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« Reply #21 on: 22 July 2022, 09:24:43 »
I just wanted to say that that cover is an excellent choice for an RPG. I mean, ideally not all of the PCs will be Successor Lords, but it triangulates the happy-spot between BattleMechs, bastards, and booms.
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« Reply #22 on: 22 July 2022, 13:18:07 »
I like the cover. The Mech is giving me questions but I like the cover.

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« Reply #23 on: 22 July 2022, 14:03:02 »
Lotta 3025-era BLRs left their Donals at home. See also BattleTroops cover.
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« Reply #24 on: 22 July 2022, 16:29:17 »
Hand held also means hand droppable...  ^-^

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« Reply #25 on: 23 July 2022, 08:51:31 »
Obviously the retro cover still has to be fully printed and shipped, but I'm curious as to what the Mercs cover will look like down the line.

I know I'm skipping ahead a bit, but color me intrigued, now that I think of it.
Frankly, I am FAR more interested in that.  I am about to step ALL OVER everyone's lawns because I always thought the newer art was better than the vintage ones. :P

At any rate it's awesome to see AToW getting a reprint, and here's to that next one too.  I am curious how the Companion is doing.
Now if only I could get a game going.  I would say I miss the extensive roleplay section for play-by-post, but we didn't really ever get those games going either did we?

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« Reply #26 on: 23 July 2022, 09:14:51 »
Not for lack of trying... my observation is that BT players seem to have a lot more RL stuff going on than D&D play-by-post folks.  I say that with a foot in each camp.

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« Reply #27 on: 09 August 2022, 06:48:26 »
Oh my! I really hope this version is cleaned up also in terms of organization.
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« Reply #28 on: 10 August 2022, 14:49:43 »
Oh my! I really hope this version is cleaned up also in terms of organization.
Thats one to bring to the ask writers/developer thread. Last time they mentioned anything its usually errants and new cover. Hope your wish is granted.
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« Reply #29 on: 10 August 2022, 17:41:47 »
Oh my! I really hope this version is cleaned up also in terms of organization.

It’s pretty much exactly the same as before other than the errata which was released earlier this year. I haven’t had a chance to take much of a closer look. (Was too busy other than quick flip through as at Gen Con and been busy with other things since then this week)

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« Reply #30 on: 10 August 2022, 22:38:16 »
There is a small change in the organization of character creation chapter

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« Reply #31 on: 10 August 2022, 23:58:45 »
Ah. Now that I have a chance, and you pointing out a change, along with comparing to my pdf copy of the previous version, I can see the differences.

It starts off with Archetype character creation (take the sample characters it includes, and either adjust it with 500 points or the GM gives bonuses each session to develop)

Then the point buy system. Followed by the sample characters which are moved up to this section. And then the life module system.

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« Reply #32 on: 11 August 2022, 01:12:52 »
the characters themselves had changed a bit (most of them) to a lot (the elemental) as they were rebuilt with point buy rather than the modules.

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« Reply #33 on: 11 August 2022, 08:50:55 »
There is a small change in the organization of character creation chapter
the characters themselves had changed a bit (most of them) to a lot (the elemental) as they were rebuilt with point buy rather than the modules.
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« Reply #34 on: 11 August 2022, 09:58:06 »
Okay now that is something I can get behind.  I still wish they had taken the opportunity to do more but such is life and maybe they are just taking their time in considering where they want to go from here.

Memo to self: update PDF when I get home.

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« Reply #35 on: 11 August 2022, 11:07:55 »
Oh that's a nice change, yeah I need to see when the PDF gets updated so I can download that version
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« Reply #36 on: 12 August 2022, 03:26:38 »
It looks more retro comic but I like that new reprint cover.

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« Reply #37 on: 13 August 2022, 00:23:34 »
While scanning through, I found another improvement. And it deals with the whole skill points issue in stage 3.

So reminder. Old way. 30 XP per skill. Track number of skills per field so you know how many you’ll get the bonus of 6 XP back.

New way. Spend 24 XP per skill in each field. But it grants you 30 XP for each skill. Same result, but much cleaner and faster.

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« Reply #38 on: 13 August 2022, 00:32:38 »
Clearly I picked a bad week to be off line...  ::)

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« Reply #39 on: 13 August 2022, 16:36:07 »
It's never a bad week to be offline, brother.


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« Reply #40 on: 13 August 2022, 16:44:18 »
It wasn't a great week either... it was good seeing family, but under those circumstances, not as good as it could have been.

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« Reply #41 on: 04 September 2022, 08:24:56 »
Has anyone seen a release date?
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« Reply #42 on: 04 September 2022, 08:40:51 »
Has anyone seen a release date?
I've made a point of asking Cubby once every couple of weeks or so, but gotten no info.
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« Reply #43 on: 04 September 2022, 08:42:03 »
At this point, I'm hoping it will be an add on for the Kickstarter...  8)

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« Reply #44 on: 04 September 2022, 09:19:21 »
My whole group wants a copy...
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« Reply #45 on: 04 September 2022, 10:51:58 »
Woo!  Don't forget at least a pdf copy of the Companion!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #46 on: 06 September 2022, 02:24:42 »
Great will try to get copies . Destiny was a disappointment

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« Reply #47 on: 09 September 2022, 22:00:37 »
Great will try to get copies . Destiny was a disappointment

I concur. We went from super crunch to super lite. YMMV.
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« Reply #48 on: 16 September 2022, 14:25:31 »
The lack of a release date is driving me bonkers.
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« Reply #49 on: 16 September 2022, 16:03:18 »
The lack of a release date is driving me bonkers.
Assuming no delays, Cubby says October.
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« Reply #50 on: 20 September 2022, 23:20:13 »
listen, i understand this is a niche reprint and this sort of cover isn't for everyone-

but it Should be! man i hope i can find the money for it and it at the same time.....
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« Reply #51 on: 19 October 2022, 15:42:51 »
So my pre-order was canceled. I hope that means this next printing is being improved in some way.
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #52 on: 19 October 2022, 18:51:35 »
I'm just hoping it only means a hiccup in shipping (which is totally believable these days)...  :-\

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« Reply #53 on: 19 October 2022, 19:51:12 »
This was the email:

Hi there,

We unfortunately received news from our distributor today that this pre-order is cancelled and that they will redo a new version at a future date (TBD).

As a result we will have to cancel/refund the preorder. This rarely happens and I'm not sure what the reason was but I'm sorry it did not work out.

Thanks for understanding.
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« Reply #54 on: 19 October 2022, 19:54:00 »
A distributor issue falls into the shipping category for me, so I'll just chalk it up to that...  :-\

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« Reply #55 on: 20 October 2022, 07:49:15 »
Huh. That's unfortunate. Hope it's only a problem with the distributor, but...
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #56 on: 20 October 2022, 11:22:30 »
Huh. That's unfortunate. Hope it's only a problem with the distributor, but...

Exactly. My pessimistic side feels otherwise...

Especially in the absence of any updates from Catalyst.
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« Reply #57 on: 20 October 2022, 11:26:00 »
Update: I did see Catalyst say it would be available in stores within a few weeks on Instagram.

So cross your PPCs...
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« Reply #58 on: 20 October 2022, 11:57:39 »
Pass us a link, if you can?
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #60 on: 20 October 2022, 17:03:26 »
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« Reply #61 on: 20 October 2022, 17:31:44 »
True, but I choose to be optimistic!  :)

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #62 on: 20 October 2022, 19:34:39 »
I can't wait till the rest of you can have it in your hands too. And to see if there are other changes I've missed when looking over my copy (beyond what I've shared before) 

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« Reply #63 on: 20 October 2022, 20:02:52 »
I'll pick up a copy the instant it hits DriveThru!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #64 on: 20 October 2022, 21:17:13 »
 
thats from 15 weeks ago, a lot can happen in 4 months.

Like their pre-orders were maybe super low? Seriously, 30-year gamer here. I just don't see people banging down the doors for ATOW. The current iteration of the book is convoluted with rules all over the place and stuffed to the gills with unnecessary fiction.

It needs the Battletech Manual treatment.

(I will buy it no matter what).
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« Reply #65 on: 21 October 2022, 04:48:56 »
I've seen a steady (if low) demand for at least a reprint.

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #66 on: 21 October 2022, 15:07:22 »
If it sells fast they’ll make more

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« Reply #67 on: 21 October 2022, 15:19:58 »
And the date is confirmed at last, October 28!
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #68 on: 21 October 2022, 16:04:33 »
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« Reply #69 on: 21 October 2022, 18:05:56 »
PLEASE tell me it will be on DriveThru too!  :drool:

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« Reply #70 on: 24 October 2022, 05:45:54 »
Though Catalyst said that the AToW reprint will not be available until 24 October 2022, they've released the PDF to the public.

I'm making the first four episodes of my new and improved video series on how to play AToW available to the public. Expect a few more episodes next week and more in coming weeks. Naturally, I'm covering updates for the third printing.
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« Reply #71 on: 24 October 2022, 08:20:32 »
Though Catalyst said that the AToW reprint will not be available until 24 October 2022, they've released the PDF to the public.



I just picked it up. I'm very curious to see what has been updated or polished.
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« Reply #72 on: 24 October 2022, 08:33:35 »
Aha, and my old digital copy was updated! Lovely!
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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #73 on: 24 October 2022, 11:54:20 »
heh. my PDF order was placed on the old webstore, which has had problems with PDF updates. it will be easier to wait to order the book from the webstore and get the free pdf.

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« Reply #74 on: 24 October 2022, 19:04:28 »
Is it on DriveThru yet? ???

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« Reply #75 on: 24 October 2022, 19:43:54 »
Is it on DriveThru yet? ???

It looks like it has updated there. Cover is the new one and says updated on 10/22/22

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« Reply #76 on: 24 October 2022, 19:45:36 »
Cool, thanks!  :thumbsup:

Off to DriveThru I go...  8)

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« Reply #77 on: 24 October 2022, 19:56:01 »
I'm only seeing the pdf version (totally downloaded, btw!).  Is there a hard copy available yet? ???

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« Reply #78 on: 24 October 2022, 19:56:53 »
friday

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« Reply #79 on: 24 October 2022, 19:58:21 »
My credit card will be there!  :)

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #82 on: 25 October 2022, 11:24:11 »
So what are the changes to the previous edition? I have seen people comment on a more organized character creation chapter, but anything else? I'm still thinking if only get the pdf or wait for the physical book to hit the stores in my country and grab it, but want something to justify the buying of the physical book.

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« Reply #83 on: 25 October 2022, 11:47:14 »
So what are the changes to the previous edition? I have seen people comment on a more organized character creation chapter, but anything else? I'm still thinking if only get the pdf or wait for the physical book to hit the stores in my country and grab it, but want something to justify the buying of the physical book.
Thick/Thin-Skinned Traits are no longer a thing, nor are tiered skills. Refs to other books have been updated. Minor spelling, grammar, and formatting improvements. Some new art got slotted in to fill in dead space.
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« Reply #84 on: 25 October 2022, 12:05:13 »
the character creation isn't really more organized, they just changed point buy to be the default and made life path the enriched / guided option. the sample characters were also adjusted to conform to point buy (the elemental and... scout? required a lot of fiddling)

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« Reply #85 on: 25 October 2022, 13:28:02 »
I see. Then I think I will stick to the pdf. Thanks for the info!

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« Reply #86 on: 25 October 2022, 18:34:23 »
I'll be picking up a hard copy as soon as it hits DriveThru (Friday, per Sartris), and I'll be updating my character creation spreadsheet to drop Tiered Skills.  I really have to thank the devs for that one!  That was a BEAR to program, and dropping it will simplify my formulae immensely...  8)

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« Reply #87 on: 25 October 2022, 18:52:28 »
oh, no. hard copy for stuff is only through DTRPG if it's PoD. you'll have to order it from the CGL store or wait for a copy to hit an FLGS near you

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« Reply #88 on: 25 October 2022, 19:06:22 »
Will the DTRPG PoD version be hard cover or soft?  If I need to start shopping in physical stores, it's going to be a while before I obtain my hard copy...  :-\

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« Reply #89 on: 25 October 2022, 19:28:23 »
there will not be a PoD

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« Reply #90 on: 25 October 2022, 19:29:57 »
FLGS it is!  :)

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« Reply #91 on: 26 October 2022, 19:33:37 »
the character creation isn't really more organized, they just changed point buy to be the default and made life path the enriched / guided option. the sample characters were also adjusted to conform to point buy (the elemental and... scout? required a lot of fiddling)

The formatting is better. In the old printing, the words "Point Buy" never appeared in any header. Now, "Point Buy" appears in two headers; one of them is a level-1 header.

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« Reply #92 on: 27 October 2022, 07:47:33 »
I would like to see a document that outlines what if anything that has been changed or subject to errata buffing.

It would sure make life easier for the player base.

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« Reply #93 on: 27 October 2022, 07:49:28 »
I would like to see a document that outlines what if anything that has been changed or subject to errata buffing.

It would sure make life easier for the player base.
Most of it is in the errata document under the latest printing.
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« Reply #94 on: 27 October 2022, 12:45:52 »
Yeah, all errata errata is in the doc that's been on the website for a few months.  In terms of other items, apparently tiered skills were removed along with Thick/Thin Skinned (not errata per se, so I didn't really know about it until seeing it here; will update the errata doc to add those things), and any typos I could find were fixed.  The most important thing by far was the rework of the character creation chapter, which in turn saw the index reworked.  Broadly, if you were okay with the book before and have a copy, you don't need a new one.  If you never did pick up a copy, or if you're planning on teaching the game to new people, this slight revision is much better.  Despite the changes and the new (old retro cover, it's definitely not a new edition, however.
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« Reply #95 on: 27 October 2022, 17:44:22 »
I want that cover in hard copy!  :D

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« Reply #96 on: 27 October 2022, 19:48:37 »
I would like to see a document that outlines what if anything that has been changed or subject to errata buffing.

It would sure make life easier for the player base.

This post encouraged me to make a video explaining the current errata document. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp7r6DJ5eTU&list=PLW4v4K6PB7qLTa-BQbf8qSxF3T_NSDVOV&index=3

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« Reply #97 on: 27 October 2022, 21:35:03 »
This post encouraged me to make a video explaining the current errata document. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp7r6DJ5eTU&list=PLW4v4K6PB7qLTa-BQbf8qSxF3T_NSDVOV&index=3

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Re: AToW Is Back Baby!
« Reply #98 on: 01 November 2022, 05:03:55 »
I will have to say after reading through the Third Printing...ATOW is definitely back.

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« Reply #99 on: 01 November 2022, 17:39:38 »
Woo!  Glad to see people returning to it!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #100 on: 02 November 2022, 18:21:00 »
Woo!  Glad to see people returning to it!  :thumbsup:

Honestly after reading the Third Printing and seeing the changes, my interest is piqued. Now I just have to get it on Foundry VTT.

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« Reply #101 on: 02 November 2022, 18:49:37 »
Don't forget the Companion... it has a number of VERY interesting rules...  ^-^

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« Reply #102 on: 02 November 2022, 20:54:50 »
Expanded Wounds best wounds.
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« Reply #103 on: 02 November 2022, 20:57:13 »
Now hurry up and buy this shit out so I can get the 4th printing with a pretty new cover (I did my part and got one even if I don’t play :)))


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« Reply #104 on: 03 November 2022, 14:40:19 »
Don't forget the Companion... it has a number of VERY interesting rules...  ^-^
I do wish they would fix up the Battle armor rules.
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