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Re: Mars Rising - Marian Hegemony V: Barbari ite Domum!
« Reply #360 on: 09 September 2021, 11:26:36 »
Lol, I kept hoping they would resurrect the Black Eagle . . . because, Eagle.
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Re: Mars Rising - Marian Hegemony V: Barbari ite Domum!
« Reply #361 on: 09 September 2021, 12:11:15 »
Lol, I kept hoping they would resurrect the Black Eagle . . . because, Eagle.

I remember I think that time ago I commented, making a rebuild of the Black Eagle would be nice, I would conform with doing union, vulture and maybe something evolved from this last one to make a light pws but that in the future with having union, Vampire modernized and Mule We would already be fine to start progressing both military logistics and expanding trade capabilities

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« Reply #362 on: 15 September 2021, 20:21:20 »
I would not rule out that Fontaine throws himself headfirst on those worlds of Tamarind that the Wolves took from them, and that would already be his third consecutive war / military offensive, his troops should in any universe exhausted and at the limit of their possibilities. If that were to happen, I do not see how the Marian Hegemony could not recover the lost worlds

The Wolves took one Tamarind-Abbey world. I believe the sentiment from the fluff on it is that they're welcome to keep it; it was one of those border-system basket-cases full of troublemakers.

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« Reply #363 on: 15 October 2021, 21:07:04 »
Seeing what came out in the last Rec Guide I say that hopefully some variant of Scorpion or Spider but nothing else.
As for Fluff, we are still the mockery of the writers

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« Reply #364 on: 16 October 2021, 01:08:14 »
Seeing what came out in the last Rec Guide I say that hopefully some variant of Scorpion or Spider but nothing else.
As for Fluff, we are still the mockery of the writers

Didn't you guys just get some nice new Centurion MilitiaMechs in Tech Readout: Irregulars that you can use to fill out your second-line forces and are exporting for extra money?

I mean, I get wanting all the new toys.  I do - I check each one of these for mentions of Niops.  But your Periphery faction not getting one of the shiny new toys doesn't mean it's the mockery of the writers.
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« Reply #365 on: 16 October 2021, 01:24:23 »
As for Fluff, we are still the mockery of the writers

You see it as mockery, not we. Don't pull the rest of the Marian fandom into this thing you've got going.
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« Reply #366 on: 16 October 2021, 05:38:35 »
Adacas has a point when so much writing about the Hegemony is using them as convenient designated villains and whipping boys for whatever neighbouring hero that's on the current agenda.

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« Reply #367 on: 16 October 2021, 10:42:10 »
They're smaller than everybody else in the neighborhood, but have never shown any inclination that they know how to act like it. How did you *think* they were going to act, like Ghost Bears?
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« Reply #368 on: 16 October 2021, 17:39:16 »
Didn't you guys just get some nice new Centurion MilitiaMechs in Tech Readout: Irregulars that you can use to fill out your second-line forces and are exporting for extra money?

I mean, I get wanting all the new toys.  I do - I check each one of these for mentions of Niops.  But your Periphery faction not getting one of the shiny new toys doesn't mean it's the mockery of the writers.

We go by parts my comments on the Scorpion and the Spider was to see if we received it in the list of the MUL as options for the MHAF.

As for the Centurion Militiamech if it is nice for militias and perhaps basic trainer but it is not a mech that can fight as equals in an open war, except as a guerrilla and for a short time and only if you ask me the H3H version, the rest in modern warfare is an expensive coffin.
It is a good industry mech / militia mech but it is not a mech, apart from that it was produced during the time that the Republic did not want excess mechs to be produced and it sold well at the time.

The thing about the writers is because again in the fluff we appear as the useless bad guy who trips over his shoes and is run off the planet by a mechwarrior and a gang of raggedy men, I mean 3/3 stories we are the bad and useless of the neighborhood, that goes without saying that one of the stories seems that they wrote it without having any idea of what the hegemony is, its military organization or its punishment system

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« Reply #369 on: 16 October 2021, 23:41:25 »
Yeah...The Marian Hegemony is one step above Space Pirates.  What part of Space Pirates says "Good Guise"?

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« Reply #370 on: 17 October 2021, 11:14:06 »
You can.always try to submit a story to shrapnel to show other perspectives on the MH.

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« Reply #371 on: 17 October 2021, 11:20:31 »
You can.always try to submit a story to shrapnel to show other perspectives on the MH.
Which Story in which Sharpell because the only thing I saw is a story from the beginning of a Destiny scenario

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« Reply #372 on: 17 October 2021, 11:58:19 »
There are scenarios for Destiny?
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« Reply #373 on: 17 October 2021, 12:57:05 »
You can.always try to submit a story to shrapnel to show other perspectives on the MH.

I know at least 12 people who have sent material to Sharpell about the Marian Hegemony with very dissimilar points of view. I have not seen any of that published.

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« Reply #374 on: 17 October 2021, 13:01:02 »
There are scenarios for Destiny?

Look at Sharpell 6, there the Hegemony appears as an antagonist because in that scenario they are mercs working for the NFWL that hires you to prove that a popular candidate with Kendall's secessionist ideas is supported economically / politically and militarily by the Marian Hegemony, I consider that as part of some operation of the Ordo vigilis, it is in the time of 3150/51 at the same time that the Fontaine offensive

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« Reply #375 on: 17 October 2021, 13:03:19 »
Yeah...The Marian Hegemony is one step above Space Pirates.  What part of Space Pirates says "Good Guise"?

That is what it seems by reading the Fluff that they publish in the last Rec Guide our troops, apart from being useless and backward, are defeated with astonishing ease

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« Reply #376 on: 17 October 2021, 13:15:30 »
To be fair, it's all a matter of the yin yang.  A little bit of good must exist in the bad.  Both morally and skill-wise.

A story for Shrapnel would be a good idea.

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« Reply #377 on: 17 October 2021, 13:29:01 »
To be fair, it's all a matter of the yin yang.  A little bit of good must exist in the bad.  Both morally and skill-wise.

A story for Shrapnel would be a good idea.

It is that reading that the Marians units are the most veteran and experienced in the last TRO or Era Report to what they published in Shattered Fortress does not close you what was so less than two years before, not to mention Ignatius' policy of a position hyper defensive to launch into 3 silly and crazy offensives, it does not close me, it even seems that I had not even read the previous Era Report

What about the stories in Sharpell if it could be a good idea as long as they publish them, everything published at the moment except the outline of the idea for Destiny is bringing down the Hegemony

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« Reply #378 on: 17 October 2021, 13:32:24 »
That is what it seems by reading the Fluff that they publish in the last Rec Guide our troops, apart from being useless and backward, are defeated with astonishing ease

The RecGuide entry simply references events that were covered in more detail in Shattered Fortress.
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« Reply #379 on: 17 October 2021, 13:36:13 »
The RecGuide entry simply references events that were covered in more detail in Shattered Fortress.

Humm then better forget to read something in which the MHAF troops do more than bump into each other, not to mention something produced in the MH

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« Reply #380 on: 18 October 2021, 04:40:07 »
While I like the Marians, especially since they combine old remnants of Renegade Legions Terran Overlord Government with Battletech styling, let's not forget they were founded by a guy who discovered some germanium and built an empire based on a partial caste system with slavery. The MH prefers to buy or salvage their mechs, and they're still behind the other medium powers in building up a full tech base to make full up normal Centurions and Emperors (given that he the MUL has given them primitive units.) We're fighting against Marik with aid from Liao and Canopus, and like many powers, we decided to attack them with our new found weapons as well. That's nothing new for the Hegemony. We're partially short sighted because we're dependent on a good ruling Caesar, just like the Roman Empire. Perhaps we'll finally get our act together and reform into more of a Republic after Marik kicks out of Tamarind Abbey or they leave the Ilyrian Province due to their focus on claiming back parts of the Wolf Empire.

Then we can finish updating our production lines to full up Star Leauge lostech/3060/Jihad era times and make Centurions, Commandos, Hunchbacks and Emperors, plus a new line medium or heavy.


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« Reply #381 on: 18 October 2021, 06:22:53 »
They're smaller than everybody else in the neighborhood, but have never shown any inclination that they know how to act like it. How did you *think* they were going to act, like Ghost Bears?

The Ghost Bears are a special kind of AAA-grade cheese that not even the Wolves can reach.

The Marians act out of plot contrivances with writing holes the size of a crater. Case in point: that Locust entry stating they use lances.

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« Reply #382 on: 26 October 2021, 11:48:02 »
Well from Rec Guide 19 we added the Spider 9M to our MUL list, I am not a fan of VSP but it is a nice mech.

Now we have to see what appears in the Red Guide 20 ..., the Hunchback ?, the Shadow Hawk IIC? The Goliath?

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« Reply #383 on: 27 October 2021, 02:10:01 »
Hopefully we produce the Goliath. A natural evolution from the Jihad -6H refit efforts

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« Reply #384 on: 27 October 2021, 10:19:53 »
Hopefully we produce the Goliath. A natural evolution from the Jihad -6H refit efforts


Hopefully, although I don't think we receive anything from the Rec Guide, they have focused a lot on the children of the Cloning Cuba, and on the usual suspects, so we will surely have to wait for a footnote from future books.

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« Reply #385 on: 27 October 2021, 10:28:39 »

Hopefully, although I don't think we receive anything from the Rec Guide

We get 45 mechs so far. None are domestic production, but that's not relevant.
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« Reply #386 on: 27 October 2021, 10:37:26 »
We get 45 mechs so far. None are domestic production, but that's not relevant.

That is your opinion Weirdo, it is always relevant for the advancement of the faction that produces its own mechs, receiving new mechs via MUL is nice, but the other is even more beautiful

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« Reply #387 on: 27 October 2021, 10:44:33 »
It's a nice bonus, but for a nation that has relied on foreign trade for the vast majority of its mechs for its entire history, having that status quo prevent all other discussion about said nation is moving beyond irritation towards genuine anger. I'm keeping a lid on things, but even I have my limits.

I am truly begging you-PLEASE find something other than domestic production(or how they're not making the strategic decisions you would) to talk about. I don't enjoy hating my fellow fans.
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« Reply #388 on: 27 October 2021, 10:49:07 »
It's a nice bonus, but for a nation that has relied on foreign trade for the vast majority of its mechs for its entire history, having that status quo prevent all other discussion about said nation is moving beyond irritation towards genuine anger. I'm keeping a lid on things, but even I have my limits.

I am truly begging you-PLEASE find something other than domestic production(or how they're not making the strategic decisions you would) to talk about. I don't enjoy hating my fellow fans.

Okay Weirdo, no problem

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« Reply #389 on: Today at 01:48:53 »

Hopefully, although I don't think we receive anything from the Rec Guide, they have focused a lot on the children of the Cloning Cuba, and on the usual suspects, so we will surely have to wait for a footnote from future books.

That's sad. The wait for homegrown medium/heavy/assault Mech production continues. We must move forward into self-sufficiency. Heck even the Taurians got the Cadaver and Lamprey after the Jihad.

 

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