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Re: Mars Rising - Marian Hegemony V: Barbari ite Domum!
« Reply #540 on: 03 January 2022, 15:28:14 »
I strongly suggest you read the evidence before you start disputing it.

The header on the report is from Janella Lakewood who is the head of RAF intel operations outside the wall (while operating from inside the Wall itself). She has had access to RAF intel at the highest level, including Ghost Knight ops.

It explicitly mentions the discovery of MHAF depots with Capellan weapons in them. It also describes an 'elaborate ruse' to cover the source, with a verifiable paper trail leading back to the Capellan Confederation. It describes the evidence linking the weapons to the Confederation as "solid" and has been cross-referenced by RAF agents and verified. And that's before it even gets to the Mask memo.

Shattered Fortress pg 37 explicitly names the Capellans as the source. It also makes it abundantly clear that this is not something the Republic was aware of at all at the highest levels. Not only does it rule out the Republic as the source of the weapons, but it rules out any other nation as being the source as well. And once again, there is no evidence even suggesting that anyone other then the Capellans are the source.

Finally, I need to bring up Double Blind which you have used as the basis of your argument as it was a similar situation involving similar players. However, in that case, the duplicity was confirmed by both novel and sourcebook fiction. Conversely, in this case, there is no fiction at all to even suggest that there is such duplicity going on.
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« Reply #541 on: 08 June 2022, 11:31:22 »
So the Hegemony gets a few Omnis in the IlClan- Era and we get some non airborne C3Ms as well. Options, options....  ^-^

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« Reply #542 on: 08 June 2022, 13:34:56 »
Yeah


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Blackjack Omni
Avatar


Beatiful options

There will be more that appears to us in the IlClan Era, beyond these Omni Inner Sphere, perhaps some Second Line Clan options, and some modern models of the Inner Sphere.

But I would also be interested in expanding tanks and ASF/DS capabilities
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« Reply #543 on: 13 June 2022, 17:43:32 »
Add 3 More

Whight 2SC
Longbow OW
Longbow OW2

Added was both IlClan List and Dark Age List

They came because they were added to the Periphery General List

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« Reply #544 on: 14 June 2022, 12:00:30 »
Good catch. Longbows are always good to have. Never tried the Whight- should give it a test run soon....

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« Reply #545 on: 14 June 2022, 12:08:25 »
Good catch. Longbows are always good to have. Never tried the Whight- should give it a test run soon....

I haven't used him in combat yet but I have a Wight already painted I'll see how he behaves

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« Reply #546 on: 14 June 2022, 13:13:21 »
Yay! We'll finally be able to add the Thanatos and the Gladiator to C3 lances! We're in the Fed Com era now!

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« Reply #547 on: 14 June 2022, 14:10:04 »
It's still in beta mode, so don't assume that things won't get taken away.  Wait for them to take the warning down before doing victory dances.

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« Reply #548 on: 14 June 2022, 14:46:49 »
And if they do, scream SALVAGE!!!

Of course you might need to hose it out...

And do some repairs, that kinda fell off the dropship on that planet you visited with some of your buddies on that last vaca you had...

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« Reply #549 on: 14 June 2022, 20:41:34 »
And if they do, scream SALVAGE!!!

Of course you might need to hose it out...

And do some repairs, that kinda fell off the dropship on that planet you visited with some of your buddies on that last vaca you had...

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« Reply #550 on: 16 June 2022, 16:05:03 »
Add Locust 7V and Crusader 2R, summed from Periphery General List
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« Reply #551 on: 18 June 2022, 03:56:18 »
Useful additions, something else to play around with.  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #552 on: 18 June 2022, 10:14:25 »
Useful additions, something else to play around with.  :thumbsup:


Tomorrow I have an AS game I made a list adding an Avatar option and a Wight I'll tell you how they worked with the rest of the team

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« Reply #553 on: 19 June 2022, 07:03:52 »
Thanks!

I am fiddling around with an undead Century, 2 Wights, 2 Cadaver and a Ghost. Perhaps get to play it tonight- do not expect too much from it but I hope it will be a fun game.

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« Reply #554 on: 19 June 2022, 14:27:32 »
I wonder...

An MH Infantry Century using a pair of Prowler Amphib tanks, one SW and one Support... 12 tons of cargo fun.

1 LRM-15
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« Reply #555 on: 19 June 2022, 15:52:01 »
That's not bad at all. How's the cargo split up? Can you actually put whole 3-ton sub-platoons in them without splitting any?
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« Reply #556 on: 20 June 2022, 00:27:43 »
SW uses 8 tons while the Support has 4.

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« Reply #557 on: 20 June 2022, 10:32:05 »
Dangit. 'Twas a good idea, though. Would work really well for any group that uses standard IS organization for supporting a company of jump troops.
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« Reply #558 on: 20 June 2022, 12:41:57 »
Thanks!

I am fiddling around with an undead Century, 2 Wights, 2 Cadaver and a Ghost. Perhaps get to play it tonight- do not expect too much from it but I hope it will be a fun game.

Well I combat tested the Avatar and the Wight in Alpha Strike as part of a Contingent armed with IlClan's MUL Marian List.
The Combat was lost, a couple of my bad decisions about not concentrating fire backfired on my troops.
The OJ variant Avatar, I think I remember, lowered half of the armor of a Thunderbolt or almost all of it, but later it was shot down when several mechs concentrated fire on it.
The Wight held out until the last round of the Match, coming within a critical of taking down a Warhammer.
As it has happened to me in the last games of Alpha Strike, the Vixen 2 has been the MVP knocked down by the Back to the Thunderbolt, peeling a Catapult, a Marauder and a Centurion from Armor doing criticals to the 3, the Marauder fell later in the next turn

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« Reply #559 on: 20 June 2022, 13:20:56 »
The Incubus is a beast for its weight class. We have only 3 Clan Mechs but each of them is good st what it does.

Thanks for the game report!

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« Reply #560 on: 20 June 2022, 13:29:16 »
Dangit. 'Twas a good idea, though. Would work really well for any group that uses standard IS organization for supporting a company of jump troops.

Twin SW would work with two Support per Lance and something AAA mounted? Or fire supported, hell, a MH Scuba Century...

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« Reply #561 on: 20 June 2022, 13:45:53 »
You've lost me completely.
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« Reply #562 on: 20 June 2022, 13:57:30 »
You've lost me completely.

Two Successor War and two Support Prowler tanks with the fifth being something AAA-ish or a fire support Prowler, like another Support Prowler. Now add a Scuba Century to this, instead of a Jump Century .

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« Reply #563 on: 20 June 2022, 16:50:23 »
The Incubus is a beast for its weight class. We have only 3 Clan Mechs but each of them is good st what it does.

Thanks for the game report!

This is the second time adacas uses the Vixen/Incubus in a AS game, and yes, the little thing is worth every point of its PV. The Rifleman IIC is also a beast for its PV. Adacas problem was dividing his forces way too much, and i used my lances (a IlClan Taurian and Merc lances) as....well, lances, and focused fire.
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« Reply #564 on: 20 June 2022, 19:05:48 »
Two Successor War and two Support Prowler tanks with the fifth being something AAA-ish or a fire support Prowler, like another Support Prowler. Now add a Scuba Century to this, instead of a Jump Century .

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That could be fun. :thumbsup:
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« Reply #565 on: 24 June 2022, 21:53:16 »
Two Successor War and two Support Prowler tanks with the fifth being something AAA-ish or a fire support Prowler, like another Support Prowler. Now add a Scuba Century to this, instead of a Jump Century .

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I like it..
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« Reply #566 on: 24 June 2022, 22:42:43 »
I like it..

Bahh,,, you like anything I make.  ;)

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« Reply #567 on: 27 June 2022, 14:02:34 »
Add other Wight Variant and Orión 1- MA

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« Reply #568 on: Today at 11:00:54 »
Both solid choices. The Plasmawight is nasty in combined arms games like the ones I usually am involved in.

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« Reply #569 on: Today at 12:11:01 »
They are good mechs, hopefully we will continue to receive good mechs and more modern equipment from now on