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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1380 on: 03 May 2021, 19:55:45 »
I am surprised that Randis have such much supporters in the KS. We got like 3 Notable Pilots.

I can see Randis, crusading knightly order fighting pirates who have a mix of clan outcasts and non-tube mutants seems like a cool concept both people and the writing team like.  Orinally I was going to do Randis or make my own merc company similar to em before settling on Marians and Hells Horses.  I still might do that to round out IS, Clan, and Periphery.

. . . workshop/factory for BT is the same thing, just implying method and speed of production.

As far as notable pilots . . . well, the Hegemony has only really existed in 5 eras- Clan Invasion, FCCW, Jihad, Republic and Dark Age.  Yes, they appeared before the Clans in the timeline but were a footnote for the Late SW period . . . and thus they also lack anyway to have a entry for Age of War, Star League, Early SW periods.  Not existing for half the eras limits options- and most of those notable pilots are uses of KS pilots.

That's not saying anything.  You can make any notable pilot from a short period of time just by surviving raid, pushing against the Tamarind/Magistry  militaries, or even just from pirate hunting.  Given that we had three canon applications either these were glossed over or no one made mention yet.  That's not to say the writers aren't interested, I certainly can't read their minds from here.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1381 on: 03 May 2021, 20:34:13 »
And how long was the Aurigan Coalition, Randis, Fronc or the Rim Territories?

Late SW too- actually earlier than the Hegemony depending on what you think of ComStar, not sure, FCCW or Jihad, and at least Clan Invasion if not the same time as MH.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1382 on: 03 May 2021, 21:01:09 »
Marian hegemony founding date is 2920, so 3th Succesion War time.


And how long was the Aurigan Coalition,

2910, House Arano - The Aurigan Coalition, page 11.

Randis,

The Brotherhood was founded in 2988, the planet is inhabitated since the time between the 1st and 2nd Succesion Wars, it was called Hope (and also Lost Hope at a time before Randis arrived).

Fronc

The planet was colonized jointly by the MoC and the TC in the mid-3050, the nation is from 3066.

or the Rim Territories?

The Rim Territories, a pirate nation, is from 3087. I think maybe Adacas is refering to the Rim Collection, that was created in 3048.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1383 on: 03 May 2021, 21:24:12 »
Rim Collection is what I was referring to in the post trying to figure who has gotten a pilot mention.

As far as the Hegemony, it was not until Julius dad that the nation really started to be recognized IIRC?  before that it was a 'bandit kingdom' write off.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1384 on: 03 May 2021, 21:51:10 »
Rim Collection is what I was referring to in the post trying to figure who has gotten a pilot mention.

As far as the Hegemony, it was not until Julius dad that the nation really started to be recognized IIRC?  before that it was a 'bandit kingdom' write off.

Nation, bandit kingdom, It all in the eye of the beholder. One can call  Oberon Confederation (before it got steamrolled by the Clans) a bandit kingdom, but was a functional nation, but recognized by non of the IS powers.

In my own opinion, i think the moment the Hgemony becomes a real "nation" was with Julius´s Grandad, Marius.

The Aurigans were recognized only by the MoC IIRC (and maybe the Taurians?), but i think CS was the only IS power to notice them.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1385 on: 04 May 2021, 09:18:07 »
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The Rim Territories, a pirate nation, is from 3087. I think maybe Adacas is refering to the Rim Collection, that was created in 3048.

No, I was referring precisely to the Rim Territories, I am almost certain that there is a pirate pilot of that origin in one of the Rec Guides, that is why it seems to me a joke that there are no pilots of the Marian Hegemony

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1386 on: 04 May 2021, 09:47:55 »
No, I was referring precisely to the Rim Territories, I am almost certain that there is a pirate pilot of that origin in one of the Rec Guides, that is why it seems to me a joke that there are no pilots of the Marian Hegemony

 . . . because they are seeding KS characters with the faction they identified with and sprinkling them through the eras.  No MH characters?  Likely a very low number of Marian Hegemony pilots, and IIRC not something we can even look at since the website has sort of been abandoned.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1387 on: 04 May 2021, 10:40:32 »
. . . because they are seeding KS characters with the faction they identified with and sprinkling them through the eras.  No MH characters?  Likely a very low number of Marian Hegemony pilots, and IIRC not something we can even look at since the website has sort of been abandoned.


Aja and the Rim Territories had more pilots than the Marian Hegemony? As an excuse it is quite cheap, when one faction is larger than another one should appear

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1388 on: 04 May 2021, 12:08:20 »
. . . because they are seeding KS characters with the faction they identified with and sprinkling them through the eras.  No MH characters?  Likely a very low number of Marian Hegemony pilots, and IIRC not something we can even look at since the website has sort of been abandoned.

In my defense I got into the franchise well after Wave 2 sealed.  Iirc we only had 3 entries so far.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1389 on: 04 May 2021, 12:30:14 »

Aja and the Rim Territories had more pilots than the Marian Hegemony? As an excuse it is quite cheap, when one faction is larger than another one should appear

You are totally talking about something else, I was never referencing the Territories when asking about Rim Collection having, as a periphery faction, any notable pilots.  I said the notable pilots came from KS character entries.  If there are not KS Marian entries, they are less likely to have Marian pilots appear in products.  Which is why other minor periphery powers come into play- has Niops, Rim Collection, or Fronc had a pilot mentioned?  I know Aurigan Coalition did- but that is for several reasons IMO.

You talk about a gang of pirates, I am almost willing to bet more folks chose 'pirate' as the faction or in their character fluff than MH.  It is like which has more, the specific Kell Hounds or generic mercs?  So, when using a generic pirate character, it is a lot easier to drop that character into a product than a faction specific character.

I am sorry Adacas that you take some of this personally.  It is not that TPTB are out to get the Hegemony . . . it is just indifference to the Hegemony b/c they do not matter to the narrative.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1390 on: 04 May 2021, 16:15:55 »
https://characters.battletech.com/

Not by a lot honestly.  In general the periphery nations don't fit the narrative though. 
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« Reply #1391 on: 04 May 2021, 17:26:17 »
https://characters.battletech.com/

Not by a lot honestly.  In general the periphery nations don't fit the narrative though.

Apparently from the list of Periphery that you passed there are four of the Marian Hegemony
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1392 on: 04 May 2021, 23:12:13 »
They're not worth mentioning. One guy put LAM designer likely as a meme, another guy put Elemental for whatever reason, someone put a Regulan washout... probably put Marian by accident.

The only one that's interesting is the Warhammer pilot in the Morituri and he had no info.  Lol.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1393 on: 04 May 2021, 23:26:27 »
They threw out a pre-release page . . . it is not accurate last I heard nor does it include every survey.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1394 on: 05 May 2021, 00:04:26 »
I didn't dig it up, someone posted it in the discord server and I happened to remember to look for the link.

I'd be interested to seeing more than this.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1395 on: 05 May 2021, 02:19:59 »
I am sorry Adacas that you take some of this personally.  It is not that TPTB are out to get the Hegemony . . . it is just indifference to the Hegemony b/c they do not matter to the narrative.

If it's indifference the Hegemony better not lose their coreward provinces or get wiped out by the ridiculous Canopian-Tamarind offensive.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1396 on: 05 May 2021, 05:35:54 »
HotW ama mentioned no factions getting wiped moving forward at the present time.  Not sure on the exact wording or if we're going to get Davioned in the next sourcebook.  The amount of info is just non-existent.

So... how do Legio armor cohorts look paintwise?
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« Reply #1397 on: 05 May 2021, 08:04:38 »
Then the worst-case scenario would be the Hegemony reduced to a rump state around Alphard.

Marian armor sample - Gladius:
https://camospecs.com/search-results/?s_search=Gladius%20Hover%20Tank

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1398 on: 05 May 2021, 09:22:10 »
Then the worst-case scenario would be the Hegemony reduced to a rump state around Alphard.

Marian armor sample - Gladius:
https://camospecs.com/search-results/?s_search=Gladius%20Hover%20Tank

That is the fear I have, but some do not care about this, I want my faction to recover the splendor prior to the Dark Age Clicktech mucus that gave Lothario independence, they spoke at length about methods to make prosperity Hegemony and my position was not to continue advancing towards Marik, but the authors decided to do it and in the most stupid way attacking Tamarind instead of the independent worlds and Kendall.
All the fluff about cultural advancement to other peripheral or independent systems has proven to be nothingness itself
At least that's how it looks for now, And that's not to mention the absolute lack of info about what we produce or any other Fluff Except for Irregular Tech, which is already years old with respect to the timeline.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1399 on: 05 May 2021, 09:52:00 »
HotW ama mentioned no factions getting wiped moving forward at the present time.  Not sure on the exact wording or if we're going to get Davioned in the next sourcebook.  The amount of info is just non-existent.

So... how do Legio armor cohorts look paintwise?

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1400 on: 05 May 2021, 09:54:10 »
Spectacular painted Maniple, I'm not really sure but they may have been painted by Weirdo or Saint
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« Reply #1401 on: 05 May 2021, 12:12:20 »
That's one of my Centuries, painted for VI Legio.

Turaglas - There is absolutely nothing that indicates that the conventional elements of a Legion use a different paint scheme from the mechs. Hence why the above tanks are in the exact same blue-and-white as VI Legio mechs.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1402 on: 05 May 2021, 13:09:32 »
It seems that in June we will leave doubts about the fate of the Marian Hegemony IlClan arrives

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1403 on: 05 May 2021, 14:51:40 »
That's one of my Centuries, painted for VI Legio.

Turaglas - There is absolutely nothing that indicates that the conventional elements of a Legion use a different paint scheme from the mechs. Hence why the above tanks are in the exact same blue-and-white as VI Legio mechs.

Cool.  Just wondering from a nuance standpoint on detailing.  Chill out.
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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1404 on: 05 May 2021, 15:35:55 »
It seems that in June we will leave doubts about the fate of the Marian Hegemony IlClan arrives

Not sure what you are trying to say. The ilClan sourcebook is going to be about the fight for terra. The second one, Tamar Rising, is going to focus on the CJF occupation zone. So mostly will deal with the Lyrans, CJF remnants, CHH and possibly some CGB stuff. Plus whatever periphery stuff is in that area.

Tptb said they’ll focus on directions of the IS rather than nations individually. They’ll be in whatever book covers the FWL IMO.

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« Reply #1405 on: 05 May 2021, 16:15:06 »
Not sure what you are trying to say. The ilClan sourcebook is going to be about the fight for terra. The second one, Tamar Rising, is going to focus on the CJF occupation zone. So mostly will deal with the Lyrans, CJF remnants, CHH and possibly some CGB stuff. Plus whatever periphery stuff is in that area.

Tptb said they’ll focus on directions of the IS rather than nations individually. They’ll be in whatever book covers the FWL IMO.

Makes sense.

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1406 on: 05 May 2021, 16:45:28 »
I know that he will focus on what is happening in Terra and the Republic, but if they comment on related events and perhaps a map of the IS and the surrounding area it would be something

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« Reply #1407 on: 05 May 2021, 17:17:48 »
I know that he will focus on what is happening in Terra and the Republic, but if they comment on related events and perhaps a map of the IS and the surrounding area it would be something

Like I said, that will come in the later sourcebooks, of which Tamar Rising is the first. It doesn’t make sense to put it in the ilClan sourcebook, which is one the battle we read about in Hour of the Wolf. Nor does a book focused on the other side of the Inner Sphere (where Tamar Rising is set) make sense to put information about the Marians. So it will come later, in an unannounced but intended source book.

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« Reply #1408 on: 05 May 2021, 18:02:40 »
Like I said, that will come in the later sourcebooks, of which Tamar Rising is the first. It doesn’t make sense to put it in the ilClan sourcebook, which is one the battle we read about in Hour of the Wolf. Nor does a book focused on the other side of the Inner Sphere (where Tamar Rising is set) make sense to put information about the Marians. So it will come later, in an unannounced but intended source book.

It is as much as possible what you say, it is more it could come out in a book dedicated to the FWL or even some mention in the novel in which Nikol discovers who ordered to kill his father, I hope he unleashes his fury on someone who benefits us in some way , because the way things are going we don't have much hope of anything

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Re: Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV
« Reply #1409 on: 05 May 2021, 22:21:10 »
Or the Capellan book given we don't know how that's going to turn out.  Which would be beneficial to MoC players as well.  If the Capellan contract ends because of turmoil deep in the IS, then Legio II and the handful of units of III left in Tamarind (not Tamarian) can go home. 

Like I said, that will come in the later sourcebooks, of which Tamar Rising is the first. It doesn’t make sense to put it in the ilClan sourcebook, which is one the battle we read about in Hour of the Wolf. Nor does a book focused on the other side of the Inner Sphere (where Tamar Rising is set) make sense to put information about the Marians. So it will come later, in an unannounced but intended source book.

That's a given for obvious reasons.  However since this is now post Hour into Ilclan we can see the new... uh, sector map?  Galaxy map?  I dunno what the BT community calls its regional faction map.
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