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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #390 on: 01 August 2022, 15:10:25 »
Is that for ALL infantry types, not just foot troops?

I'm just seeking clarification here, because if this is the case they would be the only faction in the entire Battletech timeline to use the same count across all motive types.

(Except maybe the Society. I'm not 100% on them.)

In either case, someone should submit errata for Tech Manual, because p. 147 of that book currently shows the Hanseatic League as using the same 28/28/21/20/24/28 scheme as most IS and Major Periphery nations.
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #391 on: 01 August 2022, 15:19:45 »
Is the Tech Manual information referring to ca. 3140?

Note that formations in OTP: Hanseatic Crusade include non-foot unarmored infantry, and only one platoon size is listed for standard infantry.

they would be the only faction in the entire Battletech timeline to use the same count across all motive types.

Why would uniqueness be cause for alarm?

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« Reply #392 on: 01 August 2022, 15:46:25 »
It's not cause for alarm. As I said, I was just seeking clarification on the matter.

It's probably a good thing the vast majority of the infantry used by the Scorpions during the Crusade were armored. Against conventional infantry, Hansa mechinf formations would be NASTY.
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #393 on: 01 August 2022, 15:50:39 »
(From me, the answer will always be the simplest. If I listed only one size, then that's the size! Also, I find it tiresome how random and arbitrary some things are, such as infantry platoon size, by type. Isn't it simple if they're all the same? No need to look up anything! But those forces only apply for that era, not necessarily earlier eras.)  :)

(However, I might note that while/because Rudolf was reorganizing the Hansa military, they might not still use every infantry type that one could imagine. He was in the process of replacing unarmored infantry with battlesuits as much as possible when the Crusade began. The only ones they use for certain are those noted in the descriptions of OTP: Hanseatic Crusade.)

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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #394 on: 01 August 2022, 16:35:40 »
Jump platoons that are 50% more powerful than anything this side of Detroit are also gonna be fun, especially since a full company of them fits perfectly in the K1 I'm kitbashing. I don't have many big and slow assault mechs in my Scorpion collection since I prefer Beta/Hellion Galaxy, but I'll have to remember that those I do have need to operate with an escort of some kind.
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #395 on: 01 August 2022, 17:57:27 »
The reorg allowed them to bulk up the regular infantry, as more battlesuit troops joined the ranks. So a jump infantry regiment should be pretty respectable.

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« Reply #396 on: 01 August 2022, 18:56:17 »
Oh, definitely not going that big. My plan is to build a representative force of RDF-3, consisting of a company each of mechs and vees and two companies each of foot and jump troops.
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« Reply #397 on: 09 August 2022, 07:36:59 »
I just learned that the MUL lists the Scorpions as using the Korvin. The imperial touman is truly the gift that keeps on giving.   

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« Reply #398 on: 09 August 2022, 08:38:23 »
Oh, that is AWESOME.

I'm thinking a garrison Star for a newly established colony settlement. Either that, or a post in a rural area of pine of the core Castillian worlds, basically an area that's about as safe and unimportant as it gets, but still requires some kind of Scorpion presence.

Hmmm... How about one Araña, two Points of Korvins, and two Points of hover mechinf, broken down into squads? The whole formation is surprisingly fast for a backwoods militia post(and well suited for Scorpion-style pincer tactics), eight squads of fast troops lets you spread your pickets across a large area, and the armored core of your force has respectable firepower at all ranges, all for less than 5,000 BV.
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #399 on: 09 August 2022, 12:27:07 »
Sounds like a great militia Force  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #400 on: 13 August 2022, 02:21:49 »
Officially checking in with the Scorps ! >:D :thumbsup:
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« Reply #401 on: 13 August 2022, 09:10:04 »
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #402 on: 13 August 2022, 17:22:59 »
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #403 on: 14 August 2022, 03:23:42 »
Welcome to the Empire!

Thank you, as emissary of Clan Jade Falcon, I foster good relations, I commend you on your victories, militarily, economically, and politically 8)
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« Reply #404 on: 14 August 2022, 09:15:51 »
Thank you. Hopefully the Scorpions will build on its current progress. The Empire congratulates Clan Jade Falcon's transformation to become personal guards of the First Lord, a very prestigious status.

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« Reply #405 on: 14 August 2022, 09:27:59 »
Thank you, as emissary of Clan Jade Falcon, I foster good relations, I commend you on your victories, militarily, economically, and politically 8)

Which faction of the Falcons.  No offence but right now the Falcons are more divided than the Inner Sphere.

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« Reply #406 on: 14 August 2022, 15:47:19 »
He forgot Socially...

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« Reply #407 on: 14 August 2022, 18:12:15 »
He forgot Socially...

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« Reply #408 on: 14 August 2022, 22:36:00 »
Which faction of the Falcons.  No offence but right now the Falcons are more divided than the Inner Sphere.

I come of at the behest of Khans Stephanie and Jiyi Chistu  ;) Do note it does take a while to get here, alot can happen in 3 years 8)
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« Reply #409 on: 15 August 2022, 08:58:27 »
I come of at the behest of Khans Stephanie and Jiyi Chistu  ;) Do note it does take a while to get here, alot can happen in 3 years 8)

Either way that is one detour.  Either you came from Terra went to Galactic North (Clan OZ) the Galactic East in the Deep Periphery or Galactic North then Terra then Deep Periphery.  I hope they didn’t make pay your own way and promise reimbursement.

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« Reply #410 on: 15 August 2022, 10:26:21 »
Either way that is one detour.  Either you came from Terra went to Galactic North (Clan OZ) the Galactic East in the Deep Periphery or Galactic North then Terra then Deep Periphery.  I hope they didn’t make pay your own way and promise reimbursement.

You know how it is, detached from the Turkina Keshik on Terra, gifted Jiyi a Cluster of warriors for his ample mechs numbers, retook some worlds in between, convinced Marena to play nice, as the Horses are a menace, visited the new flourishing garrison Trinary on A Place, then continued further north, found a few Turkina Ascendancy warriors holding on to hope, cleaned up Von Strang, even tested them out on a few marooned Vipers and Hellions in North Perhipery, as I headed your way, might have stopped on the way for some Pirate clean up target practice too. I bring shiny Star League toys :thumbsup:
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #411 on: 13 September 2022, 17:24:12 »
Sometimes when we write something, it's sort of like a fire-and-forget missile. With the Empire, I got to write the OTP, a TtS, two SOs, and some RecGuide entries. It's not terribly common to have so many opportunities to write the same faction in such a short time. I'm glad it's been mostly well-received, and I'm happy to answer whatever I can. Hopefully, I get to write more for them, and maybe my participation gets someone who might be on the fence to pull the trigger and check out the new stuff and they can ask their own questions.  :)

So: Thanks! I appreciate it! I love this game and the fans and players. It wasn't that long ago I was on that side of the game as a fan and player. If I can help, I will.

On this note, I was wondering if I could get some clarification from you on something.

Touring the Stars: Valencia states that the Escorpion Imperio established their capital on Valencia. But "Moving Forward" in Shrapnel states that the capital of the Scorpion Empire is now on Braunschweig in the former Hanseatic League.

Did they move their capital to Braunschweig post-Hanseatic Crusade? If so, why there?
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« Reply #412 on: 13 September 2022, 20:29:01 »
It's a more central location, given the stellar geography of the two united territories.

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« Reply #413 on: 13 September 2022, 20:33:04 »
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« Reply #414 on: 14 September 2022, 10:24:44 »
It's a more central location, given the stellar geography of the two united territories.

Braunschweig has a LOT to recommend it, honestly, even beyond geography(which is no small thing).

It's been the capital of a large interstellar polity and economic powerhouse for centuries, meaning lots of existing infrastructure and trained bureaucrats for that job, even after the damage of the Merchant Council's suicide. On top of that, making that city a priority for rebuilding brings plenty of opportunities for goodwill projects, as well as immediate jobs for the masses to prevent(or at least mitigate) a postwar economic crash. Finally, the Scorpions have an opportunity to custom-build their new capital exactly the way they want it
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Re: The Scorpion Empire: All your Warhawks are belong to us
« Reply #415 on: 14 September 2022, 10:35:00 »
You might be confusing Braunschweig for Bremen.

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« Reply #416 on: 14 September 2022, 10:46:28 »
Moving the capital to the former Hansa makes sense. It's the more populous part of the Empire, the transformation of the former castillean worlds to a new clan-inspired society is well under way and the local government structure established.


Restructuring the hanseatic society is going to take time and may require close oversight by the warrior caste. Having the capital close by should help with integration.

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« Reply #417 on: 14 September 2022, 16:54:40 »
I get the reasoning behind it, I just... don't like it. Makes me feel like I wasted a few bucks on the Valencia PDF now because all of that wonderful build-up fluff just doesn't matter anymore.

Then again, I'm not a fan of the name change, either. "Scorpion Empire" is just so generic compared to "Escorpión Imperio". RIP.
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« Reply #418 on: 14 September 2022, 18:53:42 »
I was no fan of the old name, but I had a different new name when I wrote the OTP.

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« Reply #419 on: 14 September 2022, 20:17:12 »
Valencia will still be an important part of the Empire, even with the Scorps moving the capital.  I'm just waiting for Zeus, Banshee (S or E), Surtur and Crockett C or II C variants to appear. It only took 500 years for the Awesome, so I'm sure someone will build them. Also, who's piloting the Emperor-6A (Nerran) now? Wouldn't Nerran be long dead?

 

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