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Title: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 13 January 2012, 11:08:07
 At least, the Knights of Randis and his followers have a place to call "home" on this forums. What about a roll call?  O0
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: shadow_walker on 13 January 2012, 11:15:27
I'm a closet brotherhood fan.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Col.Hengist on 13 January 2012, 11:46:12
There was a prior Randis thread, altho I think that was just a question thread. Glad to see an actual Randis/Brotherhood thread.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 16 January 2012, 11:06:44
 I just finished reading the FM:3085 Periphery section, it is very interesting...

Apparently an international cooperation effort has began between the Brotherhood, Filvet, the Protectorade, and in a smaller scale, the Fronc, with the Brotherhood sending Brothers and mechs to those nations, and getting some Star Dagger ASFs and a new aereospace section in the Brotherhood monastery.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: avon1985 on 18 January 2012, 11:11:27
I always thought the Brotherhood was interesting glad to see this thread started.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: shadow_walker on 18 January 2012, 11:30:52
What is everyone's thoughts on the HawkWolf?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Col.Hengist on 18 January 2012, 11:38:08
Amazing that it's being built there.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: shadow_walker on 18 January 2012, 11:40:06
I recall other primitive mechs being built on Randis IV. I guess mechs aren't just for the cool kids anymore.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 January 2012, 11:45:34
Or a bargain was made, the price of which is unknown.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 18 January 2012, 13:07:08
I recall other primitive mechs being built on Randis IV. I guess mechs aren't just for the cool kids anymore.

 Primitive firebee and Dervish. I still have to test them against some pirates with a friend.

Or a bargain was made, the price of which is unknown.

Ohh, mysterious.... ;D
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: snakespinner on 18 January 2012, 19:58:57
Or a bargain was made, the price of which is unknown.
I wonder which great satan was this deal made with.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: avon1985 on 18 January 2012, 20:33:37
So what is the Brotherhoods strength now?  A full regiment more? 
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 18 January 2012, 21:05:56
So what is the Brotherhoods strength now?  A full regiment more? 

 Nope, still 2 over-strengh battalions. Very minor variations since Field Report: Periphery. FM:3085 mentions a suggestion to create a third battalion, but Grand Knight Beckett opposed it.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: shadow_walker on 18 January 2012, 22:46:37
I would like to hear more on non mech forces of Randis. I recall in 2nd periphery talk of ASFs.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: snakespinner on 19 January 2012, 03:16:17
They stated in FM 3085 that due to large numbers of imported ASF's they were adding Aerospace piloting to the curriculum.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: shadow_walker on 19 January 2012, 07:59:47
That's good. It could hard to fight many pirate bands with out air support.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Col.Hengist on 19 January 2012, 10:08:20
I wonder which great satan was this deal made with.

 My vote is the Jags...
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 19 January 2012, 10:11:34
My vote is the Jags...

 Well, Beckett is an ex-CCC ex-CSJ warrior, and apparently he got a lot of ex-CSJ warriors acording to Master and Minions, enough to raise a battalion that is no accounted for in FR:P and FM:3085.  O0
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Terra-ble on 07 February 2012, 05:26:20
I think a very interesting wrinkle for the Brotherhood would be clan mechs alongside primatives. Not a member of the brotherhood yet, but a fan and ally.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Terra-ble on 07 February 2012, 05:30:24
Is there a place to download the color version of the Ranids logo. I would love to print this out for some battlemech minis.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 07 February 2012, 08:30:48
Look at Fighting Pirannha Graphics (http://www.fightingpirannhagraphics.com/periphery.htm?reloaded=1#bot), they have declas for the Brotherhood.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Terra-ble on 07 February 2012, 15:11:44
Thanks.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Isanova on 08 February 2012, 13:25:10
Didn't the Knights have a few clan omnis, brought with from their ex-jag warriors?

I think it is an interesting situation for Randis... conventional militia (tanks, PBI) do not fit in with the brotherhood style, so they likely have to keep at minimum a demi-company at home for protection... OTOH, with their emphasis on developing the world I wonder if they might start buying or building equipment for a traditional militia equipped by locals who want to serve the brotherhood but aren't really able to shoot for squire-knighthood.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Stormcrow on 08 February 2012, 13:46:00
(http://camospecs.com/images/Units/BrotherhoodRandis.gif)

Here is one image of the book emblem
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: snewsom2997 on 08 February 2012, 15:20:39
Anyone else think Randis and a few others could join together to make a proto state. They seem to have lots going for them, endemic industry, trade, military defense, they seem to be an up and coming society. Add a few more colony planets, wipe out some of the more pernicious pirates, and I think they are well on the way to and actua periphery realm.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: avon1985 on 08 February 2012, 19:40:18
I don't think there is much around them.  A small proto state would be cool but how many inhabited world are near them to start one up?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 08 February 2012, 21:02:57
Didn't the Knights have a few clan omnis, brought with from their ex-jag warriors?

I think it is an interesting situation for Randis... conventional militia (tanks, PBI) do not fit in with the brotherhood style, so they likely have to keep at minimum a demi-company at home for protection... OTOH, with their emphasis on developing the world I wonder if they might start buying or building equipment for a traditional militia equipped by locals who want to serve the brotherhood but aren't really able to shoot for squire-knighthood.

 Well, related to that, you have the mistery of the Retrotech mechs. Master and MInions and FR:P tells us of a 3th Battalion almost created, but FM:85 shows the Brotherhod at almost the same levels of 3067. I can infere that either the other books were wrong/misinformed, or that the Retrotech mechs are going mainly for external market/militia.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Isanova on 08 February 2012, 21:26:14
I don't think there is much around them.  A small proto state would be cool but how many inhabited world are near them to start one up?
Well there are lots of far-looker colonies that never grew up enough to be on the maps, and FedSuns - controlled mining worlds which might have a few houses for long-term miners and the like.

They could "interrogate" a captured Death's group pirate's ship captain for info on how to jump into the Badlands base-planet
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 09 February 2012, 02:41:25
There's a BattleCorps scenario named "Lost Souls" that has the Brotherhood of Randis deploying onto the former Outworlds Allliance world of Ddraig to defend the last inhabited settlements on the planets from a Death's Consorts raiding party. Evidently both the Consorts and the Brotherhood have been ranging a long way - Ddraig's one of the old Blommestein Province worlds, and there hasn't been a map showing significant worlds in that area in a long time, but it would seem that there are still planets with populations on them in that neck of the woods.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 09 February 2012, 07:51:13
*checks the HB:MPS map*

 It is a long way from Randis to that planet.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 09 February 2012, 08:27:41
It's even further from the Tortuga Dominions...
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 09 February 2012, 10:35:55
Well there are lots of far-looker colonies that never grew up enough to be on the maps, and FedSuns - controlled mining worlds which might have a few houses for long-term miners and the like.

They could "interrogate" a captured Death's group pirate's ship captain for info on how to jump into the Badlands base-planet

 Honestly, i was hoping for the Fiefdom to create a multi-planet state, and i was a minor let-down when i readed about them during the Dark Ages and saw that they were sstill in one planet. But, as a friend of mine told me, the main mission of the brotherhood is not nation-building, so, unless a very greedy or idealistic Grand Knight arises, i dont see a multi-planet iefdom in the future.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Isanova on 09 February 2012, 12:14:44
The thing about colonizing is, it takes a lot of money! Unless you stumble upon a germanium deposit, it's going to take over a century for expanding to a new planet to be worthwhile
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 09 February 2012, 13:08:53
The thing about colonizing is, it takes a lot of money! Unless you stumble upon a germanium deposit, it's going to take over a century for expanding to a new planet to be worthwhile

 You don't necessarily have to create a new colony. You can always join with one of the numerous planets with population low enough to not appear in the starmaps.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Col.Hengist on 09 February 2012, 13:18:28
I would think that building up the infrastructure and being self sustainable would be priority #1. After that they could set up chapter houses on low tech/low population planets to help defend them. They could also be recruiting stations...think of them like the Templars.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 09 February 2012, 13:24:06
I would think that building up the infrastructure and being self sustainable would be priority #1. After that they could set up chapter houses on low tech/low population planets to help defend them. They could also be recruiting stations...think of them like the Templars.

 As per Master and Minions, Randis IV seems fine on its way to self-sufficiency. With its ties to Filvet and the CP, only time will tell if the Brotherhood can expand.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 09 February 2012, 13:50:26
The Outworlds Alliance expanded dramatically during the Star League era before contracting again sharply afterwards, and the Concordat had a number of settled worlds out around the Badlands Cluster that either fell off the map or were abandoned. It looks like the Federated Suns and the Inner Sphere nations mainly opened up new worlds inside their borders, although there was some movement out from the edge of the Federated Suns before the border contracted in again. Given that the Rim Territories have managed to expand from two bandit worlds to a nation with almost a dozen worlds, all of them former RWR planets... there could be a fair number of worlds dotted out there that still have populations. Whether they want to be part of a nation or are content to basically be insignificant and invisible is another matter, though.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 12 February 2012, 22:18:26
Interesting finding: There is a conventional militia in Randis IV. Interstellar Players 2, page 44.

Quote
"When the Brotherhood is off-planet, the Knight-Candidates are expected to form the defensive core for Randis IV alongside the conventional planetary militia."

 This could be the answer to the non-listed Retrotech forces in Randis. It are surely piloted by Knight-Candidates, who defend the planet with a more conventional militia when the Brotherhood is off-world.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Col.Hengist on 14 February 2012, 18:42:27
Does it say they're piloting mechs?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 14 February 2012, 19:20:12
 I would tough that the Knight-Candidates pilot mechs. Not the militia. Maybe.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: avon1985 on 04 March 2012, 17:29:02
Growth could really limited to how many Jumpships the Brotherhood has.  Without several to connect the world in trade and defense there no better off than being isolated.  Is there any  word on the size of the Brotherhood JS/DS numbers?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 04 March 2012, 21:41:36
Nope.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: elizibar on 05 March 2012, 00:18:19
It is exactly the size it needs to be for the purposes of the story.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 11 March 2012, 10:22:43
Just finished reading the BC scenario "Lost Souls". I am really impressed with the BoR mech`s tech level. Pirates are quite advanced too, but they are backed by the WoB.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Redfaction on 07 April 2012, 15:06:13
The sources about the brotherhood often talk about them defending minor planets and say that Randis is used as a stging point for colonization efforts by groups going out into the wilds of the deep periphery. I assume there are worlds with low populations, doubtful anything that would excede 100 million at a an absolute maximum. I would almost say its the old west of space, with just their law abiding forces to give order in that pirate infested expanse. The Brotherhood likely acts as a hub for any powers or proto states in the region.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 06 April 2013, 18:14:26
Nice to see a modern-tech variant of the Hawkwolf in the new TRO:3145 for Randis. Very interesting the data about some new Grand Knights and a joint periphery states operation against the Tortuga pirates in 3129.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: blackjack on 07 April 2013, 17:26:44
Nice to see a modern-tech variant of the Hawkwolf in the new TRO:3145 for Randis. Very interesting the data about some new Grand Knights and a joint periphery states operation against the Tortuga pirates in 3129.

Same here!! But in all honesty I was hoping for better ammo placement.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 07 April 2013, 18:34:28
Same here!! But in all honesty I was hoping for better ammo placement.

Yeah, one hit to that torso and you have a weaponless 80 tn mech. >:(   At least it have CASE, unlike the Filvet heavy mech...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 September 2013, 18:59:48
More goodness from FM:3145:

The Tortuga Dominions hit Randis IV and the Hope Industrial Works, but Randis managed to create a joint operation with the Calderon Protectorade and Filvet to spank them good in 3129. Also, the HIW produces Commando -4H, Dervish -6M, the Hawkwolf, and in fewer numbers, the Warhammer -6R. The Brotherhood is still 2 reinforced battalions strong, with still plans to expand to a third battalion. Also, apparently, they train infantry too now.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 16 September 2013, 03:29:06
Any word on what the population of Randis is now, and whether any of the Periphery worlds that have appeared on maps in that part of space are colonies or protectorates of Randis?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 16 September 2013, 07:37:58
Not a word about it. It does mention a growing cooperation with the CP and FC tough. I would love to see a Fiefdom getting under its wing some of those unnamed minor worlds the knights protects from pirates according to fluff.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 17 September 2013, 09:38:51
More goodness from FM:3145:

The Tortuga Dominions hit Randis IV and the Hope Industrial Works, but Randis managed to create a joint operation with the Calderon Protectorade and Filvet to spank them good in 3129. Also, the HIW produces Commando -4H, Dervish -6M, the Hawkwolf, and in fewer numbers, the Warhammer -6R. The Brotherhood is still 2 reinforced battalions strong, with still plans to expand to a third battalion. Also, apparently, they train infantry too now.

Wow Warhammers. That's reeal solid. It does make sense for them to train infantry. Knights need their squires and men-at-arms.

I'm a closet Brotherhood fan too. One that hope they got a lot of Jaguars for redemption ;)
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 17 September 2013, 10:17:10
There is no further mention of Beckett, Carson, Nyleith or other ex-Jaguars.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 17 September 2013, 10:37:29
What? I refuse to let the Fidelis hog all the Jaguar legacy!
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: FedSunsBorn on 17 September 2013, 11:23:34
Huh, I liked the Brotherhood before the Clanners came but that's just me. 8)
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 18 September 2013, 10:03:26
I like the Knight Templar-style Brotherhood before the Clanners came but you gotta admit it was only because of the Clanners that the Brotherhood got really legit in every aspect
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 18 September 2013, 15:14:15
 In fact, the ones who changed to Knights to a respetable force was Frews, Beckett just followed his steps. The industralization of Randis was the logical step after the planet got a stable leadership. there are mention of some tension inside the Brotherhood, but i do not think that Beckett, Carson or any other ex-SJ leave the Brotherhood to diferent from when Frews was the Grand Knight.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 20 September 2013, 09:12:25
Yeah...the Brotherhood was unchanged through the Jihad. It just didn't get enough coverage to actually flesh out any major happenings.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 20 September 2013, 11:36:26
They have been given some time in publications though, and been shown to be producing new military equipment - that's a big step up from factions like the Mica Majority or Novo Franklin. It's a shame there isn't more detail out there on them, but given that lots of good things seem to be happening that might be a good thing... after all, look at Niops.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 20 September 2013, 23:05:10
Nobody wants to be Niops after the Jihad. It's BT's equivalent of The Twelve Colonies of Kobol.

Got your point BrokenMnemonic. Are there further mentions of the multinational cooperations between the Calderons, Periphery March and Randis itself? Because it was mentioned in FM3085 but I'm surprised the Periphery March wasn't involved in the Tortuga campaign.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 21 September 2013, 22:10:22
The only mentions i have found are the joint operation against Tortuga, and mentions about increasing cooperation and trading between the three nations.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 22 September 2013, 02:51:57
I see. It's lucky Randis is in such a nice corner of space. If they were in the coreward places, no chance making it against the heavy-hitters
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 22 September 2013, 05:44:43
The Brotherhood have been fighting pirates as far away as the former OA world of Ddraig, though - on the side of the Periphery that Randis is located, I think they are one of the heavy hitters.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Dragon Cat on 22 September 2013, 05:49:19
The Brotherhood have been fighting pirates as far away as the former OA world of Ddraig, though - on the side of the Periphery that Randis is located, I think they are one of the heavy hitters.

Between them Filvelt and Tortuga really the Taurians are too focused on the Federated Suns and Fronc
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 22 September 2013, 05:51:43
A perfect new start for the Jaguar Knights O0
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 22 September 2013, 12:01:34
Someone said Jaguar Knights?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Jaguar_warrior.jpg/505px-Jaguar_warrior.jpg)

A little un-christian for Randis i think.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 23 September 2013, 07:12:03
 :D Aztec Jaguar Warriors

Though it's not necessarily irrelevant. Remember, the pre-Conquistador Aztecs had parallels with the Invasion-era Jaguars, so my Jaguar Knights simply reflects the post-Conquistador Aztecs who converted to Christianity O0
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 October 2013, 13:19:08
Just thinking about something for a time, and then the theme pops up in the Marian Hegemony thread: in 3145 it appears that a lot of peripheric powers (and even some IS ones) are colonizing (or recolonizing) planets, be the CP, RC or the FR. There is a good debate on why the MH is not doing it, and i wonder, why not the Fiefdom colonize a couple of planets too? I am not saying colonizating a brand new planets, but there is always the posibility of some of those unmaned and unmarked peripheric planets that the Brotherhood help from time to time.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Adacas on 15 October 2013, 13:33:44
 agree with your question, as we do that question by the Marian Hegemony, Brotherhood of Randis minimally could well have a couple under his protection systems
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 15 October 2013, 18:59:10
Nobody wants to be Niops after the Jihad. It's BT's equivalent of The Twelve Colonies of Kobol.

Got your point BrokenMnemonic. Are there further mentions of the multinational cooperations between the Calderons, Periphery March and Randis itself? Because it was mentioned in FM3085 but I'm surprised the Periphery March wasn't involved in the Tortuga campaign.

And now I have a new .sig.

It amazes me that, by 3079, Randis and New St. Andrews both have populations around 12 million (around 63% of Niops 3062 population), and both significantly have greater industrial capacity by the Dark Age.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 October 2013, 21:21:27
Well, looks like Randis IV were getting new inmigrants by the dropshipload thanks to the FCCW and the Jihad in that era. As per their industrial capacity, it was growing by the 50´s, but Objective:Periphery points that someone else put the money and know-how to build Hope Industrial Works.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Coffea on 15 October 2013, 21:33:00
I for one would like to see the Knights of Randis have a tie-in with the Cult of the Saints Cameron and their attendant Knights.  It would certainly be San interesting mix of neo-Chivalry.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 October 2013, 22:08:41
Umm...interesting. I remember reading about those guys, but do not know what happened with them after the Jihad.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 16 October 2013, 08:58:49
Just thinking about something for a time, and then the theme pops up in the Marian Hegemony thread: in 3145 it appears that a lot of peripheric powers (and even some IS ones) are colonizing (or recolonizing) planets, be the CP, RC or the FR. There is a good debate on why the MH is not doing it, and i wonder, why not the Fiefdom colonize a couple of planets too? I am not saying colonizating a brand new planets, but there is always the posibility of some of those unmaned and unmarked peripheric planets that the Brotherhood help from time to time.

Colonizing is the way to go if you want to avoid antagonizing someone. It's how the Suns got all those systems spinward of New Avalon.

agree with your question, as we do that question by the Marian Hegemony, Brotherhood of Randis minimally could well have a couple under his protection systems

Perhaps the Brotherhood has minor outposts on many nearby systems. Like how the Crusading Orders maintain many many Chapter Houses all over the medieval world.

And now I have a new .sig.

It amazes me that, by 3079, Randis and New St. Andrews both have populations around 12 million (around 63% of Niops 3062 population), and both significantly have greater industrial capacity by the Dark Age.

What an honor, sir. Though having said that, I do hope Niops gets better eventually and a return for the Project Workshop :)
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 17 October 2013, 13:05:40
Update on the Knights of Saint Cameron: Looks like these guys disappeared during the Jihad, in an incident very similar to the Clinton's Cutthroats one, but here at least a monk of an order of Sant Cameron was recognized. So, you have one veteran mech regiment that no one knows where it is since the Jihad.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kamose on 17 October 2013, 13:55:56
Update on the Knights of Saint Cameron: Looks like these guys disappeared during the Jihad, in an incident very similar to the Clinton's Cutthroats one, but here at least a monk of an order of Sant Cameron was recognized. So, you have one veteran mech regiment that no one knows where it is since the Jihad.
I'd say this will end up being thrown into the pile of unresolved plot threads, like so many others.  Cool idea, may see the light someday, don't hold your breath in the meantime.
Regards,
Kamose
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Niopsian on 18 October 2013, 16:09:10
Update on the Knights of Saint Cameron: Looks like these guys disappeared during the Jihad, in an incident very similar to the Clinton's Cutthroats one, but here at least a monk of an order of Sant Cameron was recognized. So, you have one veteran mech regiment that no one knows where it is since the Jihad.

Doesn't that make it the second time they've up and vanished?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 18 October 2013, 22:52:11
And it's never revealed who their source of replacement machines were.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kamose on 19 October 2013, 13:40:27
Yep... indeed the second time they've pulled a Houdini.  It would be interesting to have the story told, won't hold my breath on it, especially as we have been given nothing specific on what happened the FIRST time they did it.
Regards
Kamose
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 19 October 2013, 15:43:24
Yep... indeed the second time they've pulled a Houdini.  It would be interesting to have the story told, won't hold my breath on it, especially as we have been given nothing specific on what happened the FIRST time they did it.
Regards
Kamose

[conspiracy mode]The Goons were not the only scouts in the Inner Sphere...and there are other SL Exiles![/conspiracy mode]
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 19 October 2013, 22:52:24
Or they are Imperial Seeker Clusters masquerading as a Star League cult unit  that "disappeared" because they were recalled to help defend the newly-formed Imperio? The idea fits on many levels for me..

On that note, does it mention when exactly they disappeared?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 20 October 2013, 09:53:19
On that note, does it mention when exactly they disappeared?

November 3076, in Galatea. The this Leviathan-class Jumpship comes in, and the robed Beliver of St. Cameron guy talks with the Knights, who lift up shop and tell SysControl that they will jump to Alcor, thing that was apparently a lie. And thus the Knights disappear. Weird, isnt?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 20 October 2013, 11:20:29
Yup. Hmmm...I don't know what to make of this. My previous theory still stands...that it could be the masquerading Seekers recalled in the aftermath of the WoR to report on how things were in the IS.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kamose on 20 October 2013, 20:11:50
That would be cool... especially if the Green Ghosts have the same mission but work for a different faction.
Cheers,
Kamose
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 21 October 2013, 07:20:33
Green Ghosts could be Seekers...or Vipers. For someone who intentionally destroyed the Homeworld's comm lines with the IS, Brett Andrews seemed to know a lot of what's happening in the IS even near the time of his death.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Archangel on 21 October 2013, 18:01:36
Or they are Imperial Seeker Clusters masquerading as a Star League cult unit  that "disappeared" because they were recalled to help defend the newly-formed Imperio? The idea fits on many levels for me..

Highly unlikely.  Wolfnet would have quickly recognized Clanners (due to Clan behavior and language) especially if a large contingent of trueborns were included (due to known features of bloodlines).  The Goliath Scorpions aren't one of the larger Clans who could afford to contribute so much manpower and equipment.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 22 October 2013, 09:53:08
The pragmatic Scorpions would of course train to blend into their IS cover of course. These are the guys who trained the Dragoons on IS warfare.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 22 October 2013, 10:34:28
Could be, could be not. Another mistery for the Periphery...
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 March 2021, 08:30:32
Randis, fortunately/unfortunately depending on view, gets a pass b/c of the influx of Jaguar equipment and even portions of Jaguar units . . . like with techs.  Easy to get things in production if you know it can be done.

As far as we know, the only named ex-CSJ members of the Brotherhood are Grand Knight Lucas Beckett and Brother Carson that arrived to Randis in the early 60´s, and Brother Nyleth arriving in 3069. M&M (set in 3077) cites in pg. 233 of "a large number of former Smoke Jaguars arriving to Randis", but that those warriors are no appearing in the Brotherhood rolls. Also add the rumor of the third battalion, that has come in and out in various products. Later products does not seem to indicated a lasting "clan" influence in the Brotherhood.

So, could the clan presence in randis helped to the establishment of Hope Industrial Works? Probably, i will not deny that IF some ex-clan technicians arrived to Randis, they expertise would be helpfull for the construction of the factory. But for that, i think, you need a lot more. Specially funds.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 March 2021, 13:22:30
Well, if the rest of the Randis thread hadn't been cut short, they wouldn't be so irked. Randis made out by a change in the narrative.

So, Randis was destined to lose the HIW facility? Are you in liberty of explaining Randis role in the enw narrative line? I have noted an increase of small tidbits and references toRandis in the late products.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 16 March 2021, 12:05:42
So, Randis was destined to lose the HIW facility? Are you in liberty of explaining Randis role in the enw narrative line? I have noted an increase of small tidbits and references toRandis in the late products.

Since that storyline was canceled, sure.

It was going to be a reveal in the Dark Age showed Randis helping out the Republic from Randis, nothing major at first, but then as time went on dumping all their resources into assisting the Republic in their sphere as it was slowly discovered that the Republic had been behind the funding and expertise to build Hope MechWorks and they had become beholden to the Republic as a client state.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 16 March 2021, 12:15:52
Since that storyline was canceled, sure.

It was going to be a reveal in the Dark Age showed Randis helping out the Republic from Randis, nothing major at first, but then as time went on dumping all their resources into assisting the Republic in their sphere as it was slowly discovered that the Republic had been behind the funding and expertise to build Hope MechWorks and they had become beholden to the Republic as a client state.

Interesting. We know that the RoTS was trying to influence the region helping the Calderon Protectorate (and Fronc IIRC), but the thing about the RoTS helping the FoR is very interesting. It could explain how they upgraded HIW from primitive to introductory tech. But i still wonder how the BoR could have helped the RoTS. One of the Battalions going to Fortress Republic? Giving a place for the Fidelis to train?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 16 March 2021, 15:10:50
Interesting. We know that the RoTS was trying to influence the region helping the Calderon Protectorate (and Fronc IIRC), but the thing about the RoTS helping the FoR is very interesting. It could explain how they upgraded HIW from primitive to introductory tech. But i still wonder how the BoR could have helped the RoTS. One of the Battalions going to Fortress Republic? Giving a place for the Fidelis to train?

Operations to distract the enemies of the Republic and their allies (basically the Combine and Ravens). They would also be pushing Republic ideals and other agendas.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 16 March 2021, 15:59:10
Operations to distract the enemies of the Republic and their allies (basically the Combine and Ravens). They would also be pushing Republic ideals and other agendas.

Quite intriguing. I can see the Knights taking a anti-merc stance and supporting the "sword to plowshares" program of the RoTS to take mechs from individuals. Why it was that line discarted?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 17 March 2021, 08:08:29
Quite intriguing. I can see the Knights taking a anti-merc stance and supporting the "sword to plowshares" program of the RoTS to take mechs from individuals. Why it was that line discarted?

Well, we had a change of management.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 17 March 2021, 09:22:58
Well, we had a change of management.

Was this when Ben Rome left the Assistant  Line Developer role, or when Brent Evans took the Line Developer post?
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 14 May 2021, 09:24:37
So, if anyone noticed it, the Brotherhood had some Brothers mentioned in the "Notable Mechs and Mechwarrios" section in the new Recognition Guides, apparently related to a incoming Lance Scarinci work and his "Black Marauder".

First, the eponymous "Black marauder" from Marauder, Kindred Soul and Ravager entry ( in RecGuide #6) mentions Brother Perseus Schell and his personal quest to destroy the infernal machine.

Then we have the poor Brothers Aaron and Thaddeus MacEoghan. Both went to Novo Franklin looking for the atrocities committed by the diabolic machine, but only a crazed Brother Aaron returned, rambling of a "Dark One". No one knows what happened to Brother MacEoghan and his Valkyrie. (RecGuide #9)

Next is Brother Perseus Schell properly, and his personal Archer ride. Looks like Brother Schell is a scholar in anything related to Peripheric legends and strange sightings, even if that endeavour makes him the source of good-natured amusement between his fellow Brothers. (RecGuide # 10)
 
Now, we have a very interesting situation, as apparently the Raven Alliance is strengthening its ties to the Brotherhood, and recently a Clan Watch agent, Star Commander Lucien Clearwater, helped the Brotherhood with his White Raven on a strike against Tortuga. (RecGuide #12)

As a final point, somewhat related to Brother Schell quest, it appears that the Raven Alliance is also suffering the existence of the Black marauder, as it appears to be the culprit of the disappearance of a whole Star in a system three jumps from Valasha. (RecGuide #3)
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 14 May 2021, 21:01:24
They do have a common interest to fight piracy and against Tortuga. Perhaps the Brotherhood should end that pirate's nest by slowly conquering it and bringing enlightenment to the population.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 May 2021, 09:46:08
They do have a common interest to fight piracy and against Tortuga. Perhaps the Brotherhood should end that pirate's nest by slowly conquering it and bringing enlightenment to the population.

Well, you had Operation TRIDENT in 3129, when the Calderon Protectorade, the Brotherhood and Filtvelt began attacked multiple planets of the Tortuga Dominion. The largest battle was in New Port Royal, were the FoR 1st Battalion, and a battalion of the Second Taurian Pride and Thumpers Assault Regiment got into the planet, and had to defend against 8 pirate battalion (i presume that mixed ones).
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 15 May 2021, 11:51:40
It's strange the AFFS nor Raven Alliance/Alliance Military Corps units didn't join in that operation. It would be a good deployment for one or two AFFS LCTs.

It seems Tortuga needs a "cleansing" every now and then. Or just colonizing and establishing a stable administration.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 May 2021, 13:03:21
It's strange the AFFS nor Raven Alliance/Alliance Military Corps units didn't join in that operation. It would be a good deployment for one or two AFFS LCTs.

It seems Tortuga needs a "cleansing" every now and then. Or just colonizing and establishing a stable administration.

Oh yes, Tortuga needs a good cleasing, togheter with the Pirate Cluster. The thing is with the whole IlClan coming, i dont think any of the big, or not so big, boys will have interest in cleaning the place when they can be getting a piece of the RoTS, or getting their land back in the case of the FS.

I can see the Taurians attacking the Pirate Cluster as a way to cement their reunion.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Rainbow 6 on 15 May 2021, 15:53:23
Well the cluster was originally part of the Concordat so it would be a case of reclaiming part of the original Concordat.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 May 2021, 17:16:02
Well the cluster was originally part of the Concordat so it would be a case of reclaiming part of the original Concordat.

Yeah, it would be a nice "ralling call" for the new Taurian Concordat.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 15 May 2021, 20:47:30
Oh yes, Tortuga needs a good cleasing, togheter with the Pirate Cluster. The thing is with the whole IlClan coming, i dont think any of the big, or not so big, boys will have interest in cleaning the place when they can be getting a piece of the RoTS, or getting their land back in the case of the FS.

I can see the Taurians attacking the Pirate Cluster as a way to cement their reunion.

But during that Trident operation the AFFS was still relatively idle. It would have been a good chance to help clean the pirates out :)
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: ArkRoyalRavager on 15 May 2021, 20:49:00
Well the cluster was originally part of the Concordat so it would be a case of reclaiming part of the original Concordat.

Yeah, it would be a nice "ralling call" for the new Taurian Concordat.

Yeah. Eliminate that nest and rename it the Badlands Cluster. This was one of the original Star League's mistakes.
Title: Re: The Sword of the Righteous: Fiefdom/Brotherhood of Randis
Post by: Baldur Mekorig on 15 May 2021, 21:11:26
But during that Trident operation the AFFS was still relatively idle. It would have been a good chance to help clean the pirates out :)

That was during Harrison´s rulership, so yes, the AFFS we smoking lotus petals at that time, confident that their RoTS daddy will protect them.