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kaliban

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I would like to connect a few custom designs to some of the Major/Medium Powers of the Periphery early 31st century.

Most of them are introtech ICE tanks and vtols plus some armed IndustrialMechs. The are not loose design but actually part of a Militia defense force against the aggression of pirates or Inner Sphere state.

I am considering Taurian Concordat or Oberon Confederation but I am really open to suggestions. Magistry of Canopus seems too pacifist to invest in indigenous designs but maybe I am mistaken as I am not so much into the lore.

In sarna.net I found some info about Vandenberg Mechanized Industries and Taurus Territorial Industrial Industries and they seem pretty capable to produce their own designs of conventional vehicles and armed IndustrialMechs. I found nothing about Oberon Confederation but they seem quite belligerent.

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As far as i know, the only ones making combat vehicles in the near Periphery were the big three, the Taurian Concordat, the Magistracy of Canopus and the Outworlds Alliance.

Taurians: Hunter tank (fusion engine),  Vedette (ICE), J.Edgar Hover (Fusion) and APC (Tracked).

Canopians: Pike (ICE) and Manticore (Fusion).

OWA: Hunter (fusion) and Vedette (ICE).

Later you have the Marian Hegemony getting the Gladius in 3042, and some more vehicules, new and old, to the other states. The Oberon Confederation never got an industry heavy enough to began to produce vehicles.
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As far as i know, the only ones making combat vehicles in the near Periphery were the big three, the Taurian Concordat, the Magistracy of Canopus and the Outworlds Alliance.

Taurians: Hunter tank (fusion engine),  Vedette (ICE), J.Edgar Hover (Fusion) and APC (Tracked).

Canopians: Pike (ICE) and Manticore (Fusion).

OWA: Hunter (fusion) and Vedette (ICE).

Later you have the Marian Hegemony getting the Gladius in 3042, and some more vehicules, new and old, to the other states. The Oberon Confederation never got an industry heavy enough to began to produce vehicles.

Yup, this is pretty much exactly what I have in my notes as well. Only additional one is  the Taurians with the Maultier Hover APC (Basic version).

Oberon Confederation was a pirate kingdom, so they obtained their military equipment by, um, other means... Marian Hegemony and Cirnicus Federation were quasi-pirate kingdoms at this time, too

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And since it pops up every now and then, the Taurian's Rommel (and Hatchetman) production was only a rumor without truth.

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I think you can reasonably assume that generic ICE-powered vehicles (APCs, LRM/SRM carriers, MASH trucks, etc.) up to ~30 tons are available to any militia of largish, self-sufficient worlds through local production.
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I think you can reasonably assume that generic ICE-powered vehicles (APCs, LRM/SRM carriers, MASH trucks, etc.) up to ~30 tons are available to any militia of largish, self-sufficient worlds through local production.

Definitely agree with this. If a vehicle doesn't have a catchy "proper" name, just a type, anybody at 3025 Periphery tech level should be able to piece it together.

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And since it pops up every now and then, the Taurian's Rommel (and Hatchetman) production was only a rumor without truth.

Dont know about the Rommel, but at the mid 3050´s thy were hable to make the -3F until they got trashed by the Fighting Uruk-Hais.
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I think you can reasonably assume that generic ICE-powered vehicles (APCs, LRM/SRM carriers, MASH trucks, etc.) up to ~30 tons are available to any militia of largish, self-sufficient worlds through local production.

Yup I agree too a world with any sort of vehicle production would be able to build armoured versions of it

VTOLs and hovers maybe not depending on what civilian units they can build
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Dont know about the Rommel, but at the mid 3050´s thy were hable to make the -3F until they got trashed by the Fighting Uruk-Hais.

True, but since the OP asked for the 3000-3025 timeframe...

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I'd only tweak Frabby's argument by pointing out that only worlds with easy access to fuel would build ICE vehicles.

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I would assume that most planets with a large enough population to support heavy industry are able to grow carbohydrate containing plants as the base for fuel alcohol production.

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There seem to be a LOT of desert planets in the periphery...

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Its not quite a combat vehicle, but its close...in 3019 the Magistracy started to produce the MSF-42 Bluehawk and the Outworlds Alliance started to produce the ASF-23 Protector, both Conventional Fighters.

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Is there any production info for the tanks in House Arano? I was under the impression they were pretty generic units.
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Is there any production info for the tanks in House Arano? I was under the impression they were pretty generic units.

I think you would just have to go by what shows up, mostly scorpions, missile carriers, and vendettes assembled in kits from Quiksell

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As usual, production information isn't really discussed, but the Sleipner and Vargr vehicles have record sheets in the House Arano book, and their vehicle RAT (page 66) has quite the variety.  While heavy on the Scorpions, Saladins are in there too on the light end, not to mention Demolishers, Schrecks, and even Behemoths on the other end of the chart.

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Is there any production info for the tanks in House Arano? I was under the impression they were pretty generic units.

They don't have a true entry outside of the record sheets in the sourcebook, so I assumed they are in the "available but no longer produced" category.

I'm sure you could think of some story where they Taurians had produced them during the Star League/early SW eras for a while, but started selling their surplus off to local periphery lords once they moved on to producing their own APC designs (like the Maultier) and other, more standard vehicles.

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I think you can reasonably assume that generic ICE-powered vehicles (APCs, LRM/SRM carriers, MASH trucks, etc.) up to ~30 tons are available to any militia of largish, self-sufficient worlds through local production.

I follow you completely. If you ready old technical readouts from early FASA years, most ICE vehicles are described as "typical variants" and it is made clear that customized designs are abundant. Few are exceptions, like the Manticore. Some vehicles, like the LRM/SRM carriers are more a generic description of a vehicle type, not a vehicle unique model. Even IS BattleMechs were frequently customized by small mercenary units and "FrankenMechs" were built with different Mech's parts - something that may sound heretic nowadays.

More recent sourcebooks tend to be restrictive not for lore consistence but for commercial interest of the publishers

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After reading some old sourcebooks, Outworlds Alliance seems an interesting choice as they are said to have a certain "disdain for BattleMechs". They are also the weakest of the major periphery powers and the local production of low cost conventional vehicles is a cost saving measure as buying them from the major powers is expensive.

Two tanks will be produced: one heavy based on the LRM/SRM carrier chassis and one light based on the Galleon. Two models of VTOLs will be produced in Ramora which is a producer of Aerospace Fighters with Draconis Combine support.

The combat vehicles will equip the Alliance Borderers regiment which is the only full Regiment of OWA and does have any BattleMech in use circa 3025.
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