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Now that it looks like the Duchy is going to take a more independent direction in the 3150s, where do we see things going?

I for one was surprised that we saw the attacks on the Capellan Confederation without also some treaty with the Free Worlds League.

As far as the sourcebooks indicate, Andurien is at war with both neighboring great houses, with the tacit but not military support of the Magistracy. Quite an aggressive stance for a Duchy of about 12 worlds. Where does Ari Humphreys see this going? Will Andurien say "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and be the first spheroid power to recognize Alaric's Star League? Or will they get crushed and rejoin the FWL once again?


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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #1 on: 24 March 2023, 00:16:54 »
I see the Andurien attacks on the Confederation as an emotional act, not one driven by logical action. It's all tied to the mess that is the Daoshen/Ilsa/Ari triangle.

The meeting between Daoshen and Ilsa, in my opinion, went far a standard meeting between two allies, emotionally speaking. In that meeting, we saw chinks in the armor that both always had in place. Daoshen shows jealousy over Ilsa's frequent machinations with Ari, even though the Chancellor was the very person who suggested the marriage in first place. Ilsa, on her end, believes that she had always acted with the Confederation's best interests in mind, and is deeply betrayed by Daoshen tossing her aside because of said unfounded jealousy.

Ari, however, is a man that Ilsa still has complete sway over. A pony express is set up, and troops that had previously been preparing to assault the Free Worlds hit the Confederation instead: an act of reactive passion, performed by a Duke who was probably never aware of the truth behind the switch in targets. Put clearly, a hurt Ilsa used the Duke to strike at the one thing she knows Daoshen still holds dear—the Confederation itself.

Now what? In a certain parallel to 3025, Andurien has become 3150's best example of the Piranha Principle at play. While both the CapCon and the FWL would love nothing more but to absorb the nation and remove Ari from the throne, neither can spare the forces without facing the risk of tremendous losses on other fronts. Andurien doesn't have a reason to join a new Star League because of this, unless one or both of its larger neighbours do first—freeing up those essential troops. Interestingly, if Andurien feels like one of its larger neighbours might join the League sooner than later, it might join first to preempt any mass invasions; ultimately speaking, its next steps could be guided by pure diplomacy more than raw military action.
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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #2 on: 24 March 2023, 02:52:15 »
or Andurian completely screws this up and is forced to beg the FWL to bail them out, completing the reunification of the FWL

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #3 on: 24 March 2023, 06:10:34 »
Andurien is at peace with the reborn League. The League (or rather the then Oriente Protectorate) took some Andurien worlds after the Kwamashu incident but they signed a peace treaty afterwards. Though at the time of the era report 3145 it was believed that the Anduriens won't forgive the League for the loss of some of their worlds (and especially the poisoning of Kwamanshu which cost them a reconstructed Battlemech factory). And let's not forget unlike the Regulan Fiefs Andurien has a strong partner in the Magistracy of Canopus. I rather see a new powerhouse consisting of a united Anurien Magistracy (despite not having an apparent heir at this pont). Though their beef with the Confederation may spark a smackdown between the Liao siblings soon (perhaps at the height of the war with the Iclan forces). Last point: the League is currently busy devouring defensless Wolf worlds. This might bind enough troops that they can't spare a look at Andurien. Because let's be real here: it is political more convenient to conquer old worlds without sacrificing many troops


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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #4 on: 24 March 2023, 07:18:36 »
Andurien is at peace with the reborn League. The League (or rather the then Oriente Protectorate) took some Andurien worlds after the Kwamashu incident but they signed a peace treaty afterwards. Though at the time of the era report 3145 it was believed that the Anduriens won't forgive the League for the loss of some of their worlds (and especially the poisoning of Kwamanshu which cost them a reconstructed Battlemech factory). And let's not forget unlike the Regulan Fiefs Andurien has a strong partner in the Magistracy of Canopus. I rather see a new powerhouse consisting of a united Anurien Magistracy (despite not having an apparent heir at this pont). Though their beef with the Confederation may spark a smackdown between the Liao siblings soon (perhaps at the height of the war with the Iclan forces). Last point: the League is currently busy devouring defensless Wolf worlds. This might bind enough troops that they can't spare a look at Andurien. Because let's be real here: it is political more convenient to conquer old worlds without sacrificing many troops

You're thinking of the '38 war. Per Shattered Fortress, the peace fails in 3146 when the ADF invades along with allies from Regulus and Canopus. The FWL plans a full Invasion of Andurien only to hold off when Andurien and Regulus go to war.

But as of 3149, the last update, Andurien and the FWL haven't made peace so a state of war exists.


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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #5 on: 24 March 2023, 08:19:41 »
or Andurian completely screws this up and is forced to beg the FWL to bail them out, completing the reunification of the FWL
By far the most probably outcome. That said, the Duchy leadership has been acting loopy throughout the entirety of the current timeline, so who knows.

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #6 on: 24 March 2023, 09:40:11 »
You're thinking of the '38 war. Per Shattered Fortress, the peace fails in 3146 when the ADF invades along with allies from Regulus and Canopus. The FWL plans a full Invasion of Andurien only to hold off when Andurien and Regulus go to war.

But as of 3149, the last update, Andurien and the FWL haven't made peace so a state of war exists.

Oh really? I have to check Shattered Fortress again. I thought Andurien had taken more focus onto unaligned worlds then poking the League
But as of right now the League is only in one active war and that is the Wolf empire right? While Andurien seems to be poking the Confederation for a change of scene

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #7 on: 24 March 2023, 09:57:42 »
Oh really? I have to check Shattered Fortress again. I thought Andurien had taken more focus onto unaligned worlds then poking the League
But as of right now the League is only in one active war and that is the Wolf empire right? While Andurien seems to be poking the Confederation for a change of scene

It's an odd state of affairs. The FWLM was planning to invade the Duchy and the CG called it off when the Anduriens struck other targets. But wars have formal ends so as far as we can tell Andurien is fighting three neighbors.


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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #8 on: 28 March 2023, 21:27:45 »
Wars effectively ending but no treaty being signed isn't really that unuseal in the inner sphere TBH

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #9 on: 28 March 2023, 22:50:23 »
 A de facto ceasefire is the most honest sort.

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #10 on: 11 April 2023, 14:46:39 »
What if Andurien folded into the MOC? I know they are fairly independent minded so it would have to be framed in such a way where one ruler leads both nations. Or some other political gymnastics

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #11 on: 12 April 2023, 08:41:08 »
 I would not refer to the Duchy of Andurien as independent minded, but rather under loopy leadership. The Duchy needs a new ruling line as the current one neither understands its people, nor its interests.

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #12 on: 12 April 2023, 11:01:22 »
I would not refer to the Duchy of Andurien as independent minded, but rather under loopy leadership. The Duchy needs a new ruling line as the current one neither understands its people, nor its interests.

Luckily, there happens to be a Great House right next door with pretty solid leadership that would welco.e their wayward Andurien cousins back into the fold with open arms.
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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #13 on: 12 April 2023, 11:46:25 »
Luckily, there happens to be a Great House right next door with pretty solid leadership that would welco.e their wayward Andurien cousins back into the fold with open arms.

How kind of you to think of your Capellan neighbors! We'd be happy to welcome Andurien back into the fold.
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« Reply #14 on: 12 April 2023, 12:08:08 »
RIP Duchy of Andurian but if MOC absorbed the Duchy and several Capellean worlds it could put them on the level of a great house. Especially if Capellea gets their teeth kicked in by Clan Wolf

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« Reply #15 on: 13 April 2023, 02:17:51 »
RIP Duchy of Andurian but if MOC absorbed the Duchy and several Capellean worlds it could put them on the level of a great house. Especially if Capellea gets their teeth kicked in by Clan Wolf

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #16 on: 18 April 2023, 04:45:13 »
Now I have this mental image of catgirls riding wolves I cannot shake...

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« Reply #17 on: 19 April 2023, 22:19:37 »
Now I have this mental image of catgirls riding wolves I cannot shake...


... what do you thhink this is sir... warhammer 40k?

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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #18 on: 20 April 2023, 19:42:34 »
*flips another page in a TRO* I can't find a WHM-40K in any of my books and it's not in Sarna either.  Are you sure that's a thing?   ::)
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Re: It's Always the Quiet Ones: The Duchy of Andurien Thread
« Reply #19 on: 20 April 2023, 19:56:26 »
*flips another page in a TRO* I can't find a WHM-40K in any of my books and it's not in Sarna either.  Are you sure that's a thing?   ::)
I heard they overspent on them during the design phase, so the project was cancelled. Reportedly, paint colors were required of all prototypes.

 

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