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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #720 on: 29 January 2023, 04:50:14 »
Well after their treatment by the Chancellor as found in IlClan, I could see how the writers might have planned this. Hm.

Would be surprised if the entire Brigade jumped ship, but could see a Regiment or two going back to their beginings.

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #721 on: 29 January 2023, 20:39:21 »
 The old romantic mercenary schtick just might be returning to Battletech. This enables chaotic plot chicanery. Furthermore, it was a part of the old Battletech atmosphere, with several of the most favored novels being of that theme.

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #722 on: 30 January 2023, 01:47:32 »
The old romantic mercenary schtick just might be returning to Battletech. This enables chaotic plot chicanery. Furthermore, it was a part of the old Battletech atmosphere, with several of the most favored novels being of that theme.

honestly that's my gut feeling too, the Jihad and Republic eras did everything possiable to kill mercenaries off, (really the fedcom civil war era was the start seeing several pretigious merc units like the GDL killed, the MAC absorbed into the CCAF)  I think the devs are moving to really make mercs a key factor in the next era. And thats a good thing. Mercenaries are battletech's "your guys" and that's important, doubly so now that the plastic mechs have seen a resurgance in an intreast in the Mini side of things

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #723 on: 31 January 2023, 13:38:36 »
My contribution to the discussion: my lance of 'Classic' Capellan designs. Or... at least what CGL has to offer at the moment.

I know there's some debate about whether or not the Highlander is a Capellan mech, but they got the lion's share of them, then ran them into the ground after they lost the production facility, but it's still a design I associate with them.

So, what do you think?

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #724 on: 31 January 2023, 17:40:15 »
Gorgeous!

And, I kinda always associate old, 3025 Highlanders with the FWLM or LCAF, and YET, I literally wrote a CCAF one into my ELH story!  How funny!

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #725 on: 31 January 2023, 18:05:42 »
So as a spoiler from Dominions Divided
One of the images depicts the Cordinator meeting with individuals from the MAC.  Could the MAC be about to go mercenary?
I think it's the likeliest explanation. But it could also be officers presenting the captured regimental flag to her.
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #726 on: 31 January 2023, 18:11:10 »
I think it's the likeliest explanation. But it could also be officers presenting the captured regimental flag to her.

Not DCMS officers. Those are Capellan military uniforms.
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #727 on: 31 January 2023, 18:29:14 »
Part of the beauty of the older picture of the 3rd is that militaries were supposed to field whatever they got their hands on. Sure, they might be difficult to maintain, but people would do anything in their power to avoid being dispossessed. States would do anything in their power to keep mechs running.

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #728 on: 31 January 2023, 21:33:33 »
The Highlander is definitely a classic Capellan Mech, based on the redone availability.  They had the Northwind Highlanders as part of their army for ages. They had both Hollis Industries and Star Corps plants capable of building them for several years, decades, or even centuries before they went back and forth between them, Marik and Davion.  The Highlander can be seen as an inspiration for the Vindicator.

They're both tough, generalist low speed troopers that uses jump jets for better mobility.  They can be the linchpin of a lance and work great in groups.  Plus, the Capellans need a break during the later Succession Wars.  The Highlander is a nice gift for that time.

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #729 on: 01 February 2023, 01:19:42 »
The Highlander is definitely a classic Capellan Mech, based on the redone availability. 
I'm not sure I'd call a dozen mechs a year split between the LyrCom & CapCom as being a "Classic" anything.
Its a SLDF mech that eeked out a few rebuilds for the Cappies in the introtech era but never moved past that.
The Lyran's seemed to turn it back into a common mech when the put it back into production & created new variants in the 50's
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #730 on: 01 February 2023, 01:36:47 »
yeah gonna agree with hellriser, it seems to be more a Lyran mech then a capcon...

as awesome as a stealth highlander would be

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #731 on: 01 February 2023, 09:56:16 »
Cappies seem to have somewhat large stocks of introtech Highlanders. Per MUL, they are with the Lyrans the only faction to use all three variants commonly through the Succession Wars, thus we can reasonably establish the Highlander as a Capellan 'Mech, though obviously not an iconic one.
Xotl's RATs also has this distribution.
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #732 on: 01 February 2023, 11:45:52 »
Oh, I'm not saying its not usable by them or anything.
Just that I wouldn't call it Iconic or Classic.
Its no Vindicator, Raven, or Cataphract when it comes to "identifying" with the faction to me.
That said yes, they were 1 of 2 factions rebuilding them in the SW so at least that kept it in use where it went pretty defunct for everyone else.
I'd certainly put one in a cappy force in the 3rd SW if I had a spare mini.
Just not 3-4 in a company like I'd do w/ Vindi's
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #733 on: 01 February 2023, 23:24:39 »
I think it's the likeliest explanation. But it could also be officers presenting the captured regimental flag to her.

Another simple option, though a bit of a stretch, is officers of MAC were sent as envoys to help reforge their alliance to go after the Wolves together. Essentially sending military leaders instead of a diplomat as some form of respect

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #734 on: 02 February 2023, 01:32:13 »
Another simple option, though a bit of a stretch, is officers of MAC were sent as envoys to help reforge their alliance to go after the Wolves together. Essentially sending military leaders instead of a diplomat as some form of respect

maybe we'll see, as it is the DCMS getting the MAC in thier service could be the differance between death and stalemate for the combine, what with the impending rassalhugian invasion coming

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #735 on: 02 February 2023, 10:47:17 »
Yeah. Too little info to tell. Just a good fun piece of art making people theorize.

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #736 on: 02 February 2023, 10:58:06 »
I doubt it's a coincidence that, on the page immediately preceding said art, there's a little blurb about the Combine's use of mercenaries.
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #737 on: 02 February 2023, 15:28:32 »
I have no idea what the stats are, but for a WYSIWYG, I could see an LPPC+MML5+2ML as a solid load out with some CASE & electronics to flavor.
Sniping or striking in close either way it has some bite.

This would have been good. Oh well the Confederation has done pretty well in these rec guides so there was bound to be a dud.


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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #738 on: 02 February 2023, 15:38:19 »
I don’t want a merc unit, I want capellans. Or Mercs who are basically capellans for any time period I am looking to play.

I put arguably too much effort into finding units for each clan and house that lasted effectively forever. I wouldn’t be so mad if I actually hadn’t started painting them. I think I am doing pretty good on picking units tho, if I only lose on I’ll be less mad (I won’t say happy lol)
I hear you. In fact I'm slow rolling my IlClan Era painting now that it looks like a big showdown between the CCAF and the SLDF. Kind of what to find out which units get wasted first...


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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #739 on: 02 February 2023, 17:08:32 »
I hear you. In fact I'm slow rolling my IlClan Era painting now that it looks like a big showdown between the CCAF and the SLDF. Kind of what to find out which units get wasted first...

well assuming the MAC does leave capellan service I can't imagine it being an amicable divorce. I'd expect a misery style show down....




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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #740 on: 02 February 2023, 17:54:28 »
well assuming the MAC does leave capellan service I can't imagine it being an amicable divorce. I'd expect a misery style show down....

That would be AMAZING to read!

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« Reply #741 on: 03 February 2023, 02:16:20 »
That would be AMAZING to read!

Wolves on the border is one of my all time favorite battletech books, a MAC based one that took a similer approuch would be amazing. Start in say.. the 3140s, and depict the MAC fighting alongside the tau ceti and the rest of the citizens honored, show friendships etc being built etc... and the eventual moment where bonds of comradere are snapped... 

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #742 on: 03 February 2023, 11:17:59 »
Wolves on the border is one of my all time favorite battletech books, a MAC based one that took a similer approuch would be amazing. Start in say.. the 3140s, and depict the MAC fighting alongside the tau ceti and the rest of the citizens honored, show friendships etc being built etc... and the eventual moment where bonds of comradere are snapped...
Aw, don't give me a reason to actually like the MAC after all the stuff they pulled recently in the FedSuns.

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #743 on: 03 February 2023, 17:47:54 »
Wolves on the border is one of my all time favorite battletech books, a MAC based one that took a similer approuch would be amazing. Start in say.. the 3140s, and depict the MAC fighting alongside the tau ceti and the rest of the citizens honored, show friendships etc being built etc... and the eventual moment where bonds of comradere are snapped...
That's the best fan-book-pitch I read in a while. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #744 on: 03 February 2023, 23:23:52 »
Aw, don't give me a reason to actually like the MAC after all the stuff they pulled recently in the FedSuns.

Not every member of the MAC would leave the Capellans.  Let those that leave become the MACIE
(McCarron’s Armored Cavalry-in-exile).  And yes this is my attempt to lighten the mood of the MAC.

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« Reply #745 on: 04 February 2023, 02:54:32 »
Not every member of the MAC would leave the Capellans.  Let those that leave become the MACIE
(McCarron’s Armored Cavalry-in-exile).  And yes this is my attempt to lighten the mood of the MAC.


I dunno, given the capcon, if your entire regiment went rogue I could see the VERY real fear of getting the blame for it hitting you too. I mean take a look at the orgins of the refounded Grey Death Legion...

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #746 on: 04 February 2023, 09:14:12 »
I think they’d have trouble leaving, they are tied into the economy (MTC) and the land itself, they have a landhold and they all have/got citizenship.

If I had to guess it will be Danai shower her father she’s no joke, an courting support outside of the CC
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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #747 on: 04 February 2023, 16:39:35 »
I think they’d have trouble leaving, they are tied into the economy (MTC) and the land itself, they have a landhold and they all have/got citizenship.

If I had to guess it will be Danai shower her father she’s no joke, an courting support outside of the CC

ohh leaving would ABSOLUTELY hurt, no doubt about that but at the same time...

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #748 on: 05 February 2023, 21:58:50 »
I think they’d have trouble leaving, they are tied into the economy (MTC) and the land itself, they have a landhold and they all have/got citizenship.

If I had to guess it will be Danai shower her father she’s no joke, an courting support outside of the CC

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Re: The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!
« Reply #749 on: 05 February 2023, 22:51:49 »
Your Capellans May now be DCMS, and the DCMS unit I just finished painting just got wiped to a man on New Avalon.  We’re two for two!

Maybe we can do two battles, give them their last hurrahs.
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