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[BrianDavion]

This actually doesn't seem to be the case in the CCAF in FM:3145. We've got sang-shaos running Lockhardt's Ironsides, Laurel's Legion and the Tau Ceti Lancers and also within the ranks of the Big MAC.

those aren't mercenaries though Tassa, by 3150 those are house regulars and have been for nearly a century

[tassa_kay]

those aren't mercenaries though Tassa, by 3150 those are house regulars and have been for nearly a century

Ah, gotcha. I wasn't sure if these were the types of units you meant or not... they aren't de facto House units, they are House units. I get what you mean now.

[Grizzly]

Are those mercenaries or are those the "Citizens Honored"? I thought adopted mercenaries were included in the Citizens Honored brigade and then given Capellan ranks (the big exception of course MCarrons Armored Cavalry though that might be more for a sense of practicality to keep them together as a single brigade)

Yup Citizens Honored and the "Capellan Brigade" and St. Ives Sentinels iirc. Four brigades of former mercs at one point when you include the MAC.

[BrianDavion]

Ah, gotcha. I wasn't sure if these were the types of units you meant or not... they aren't de facto House units, they are House units. I get what you mean now.

yeah when I was thinking defacto house units I was actually thinking units like the Illiican lancers, Federated Freemen etc.  you're right that most of the long serving defacto house units in the CCAF became dejure house units in the 3060s

[Grizzly]

Attention, fellow citizens! We have a new IlClan-era Jinggau model in the latest Shrapnel!

It's a sweet upgrade. I look forward to trying it out.

Xin Sheng!

[Angrii]

More than anything, I'm pleased with the new artwork. It looks proper menacing now.

[Kerfuffin(925)]

Attention, fellow citizens! We have a new IlClan-era Jinggau model in the latest Shrapnel!

It's a sweet upgrade. I look forward to trying it out.

Xin Sheng!

The 8Ar is insane, not necessarily because it’s better (although it is) but because it’s got the clan tech no one else really has, the clan Gauss rifle.

That combined with the other large amount of Clan tech seems to suggest the capellans have figured something out in terms of clan tech. I might have to get this shrapnel to see the story behind it.

[Grizzly]

I would wait to see the MUL update. (Hint: Capellans aren't the only user anymore.)

[Grizzly]

MUL update, citizens! We have three of the four new Jinggau variants which is more than I expected from the Shrapnel TRO entry.

I need another mini I think...

[Metallgewitter]

The 8Ar is insane, not necessarily because it’s better (although it is) but because it’s got the clan tech no one else really has, the clan Gauss rifle.

That combined with the other large amount of Clan tech seems to suggest the capellans have figured something out in terms of clan tech. I might have to get this shrapnel to see the story behind it.

Or they conquered the right Republic planets to unlock the secrets to manufacture Clan tech en masse. Or simply managed to salvage stockpiles of unused Clan equipment from the RAF and possibly the Wolves from the undefended Wolf possesions

[Kerfuffin(925)]

Or they conquered the right Republic planets to unlock the secrets to manufacture Clan tech en masse. Or simply managed to salvage stockpiles of unused Clan equipment from the RAF and possibly the Wolves from the undefended Wolf possesions

No…look at the availability.

It’s a CHH special. That somehow spread to a bunch of people they don’t have contact with.

[Grizzly]

No…look at the availability.

It’s a CHH special. That somehow spread to a bunch of people they don’t have contact with.

It makes no sense but until it's revised you won't find me complaining. 😆

[five_corparty]

It makes no sense but until it's revised you won't find me complaining. 😆

Well, they created it, sooo... ;-) hahahaa

more than that (and it's REALLY clear with the AS cards) they used it to replace losses among Cauldron Borns: when you look at them less as cappie mechs but more as CB variants, they give the CHHs more options right in that 65-ton band. :-)

[Grizzly]

Well, they created it, sooo... ;-) hahahaa

more than that (and it's REALLY clear with the AS cards) they used it to replace losses among Cauldron Borns: when you look at them less as cappie mechs but more as CB variants, they give the CHHs more options right in that 65-ton band. :-)

I meant it makes no sense that the CHH refit is available to Capellans but again, not complaining. 👍👍

[BrianDavion]

Ok so just read the fluff, and fighting a single capellan regiment in the 3070s was eneugh to bother giving the horses multiple varients? ... ok

[tassa_kay]

but the hells horses seem to be the writers favorite "....... we can't figure out who the ****** would make this give ti to...." faction

Think the Ravens just took that title with the Blood Asp, lol. Even the explanation given in the unit fluff feels super dodgy and contrived. The Ravens were in the midst of a hasty retreat from the Homeworlds and losing things left and right... and yet found the time and resources to pull off a Watch operation on the Adders' capital world and stole the plans? Mkay

[BrianDavion]

Think the Ravens just took that title with the Blood Asp, lol. Even the explanation given in the unit fluff feels super dodgy and contrived. The Ravens were in the midst of a hasty retreat from the Homeworlds and losing things left and right... and yet found the time and resources to pull off a Watch operation on the Adders' capital world and stole the plans? Mkay

and then waited 90 years to put it into production! let's not forget that

[tassa_kay]

and then waited 90 years to put it into production! let's not forget that

That one I kinda get because the Ravens were a hot mess when they arrived in the Outworlds and struggled to rebuild even into the Dark Age and ilClan eras. But still, the point stands. That Blood Asp should've gone to the Horses, damn it.

[BrianDavion]

That one I kinda get because the Ravens were a hot mess when they arrived in the Outworlds and struggled to rebuild even into the Dark Age and ilClan eras. But still, the point stands. That Blood Asp should've gone to the Horses, damn it.

or even the sea foxes. yeah I agree the snow ravens is an odd choice. but I say that as someone who wouldn't have been crying if the Ravens had never arrived in the Inner Sphere (if TPTB had really wanted to get rid of warships, preserving the warship clan was definatly an odd choice)

[Kerfuffin(925)]

or even the sea foxes. yeah I agree the snow ravens is an odd choice. but I say that as someone who wouldn't have been crying if the Ravens had never arrived in the Inner Sphere (if TPTB had really wanted to get rid of warships, preserving the warship clan was definatly an odd choice)

It is kind of weird. As it seems like it’s gonna set up the Bears to be on the opposite side with their two Leviathans.

I’m still nonplussed that the Horses got the variants started and the best one, 8Ar, spread to other factions they don’t touch.

[tassa_kay]

I like having the Raven Alliance around. It's nice seeing a Clan state fusion that isn't all sunshine and rainbows (Scorpion Empire; all of its charm from ISP3 is gone and now they're just amazing at everything) or sunshine and rainbows on the surface (the RasDom). The RA is a struggle bus and I find it charming. Plus I'm not a fan of TPTB killing off WarShips. I get the reasoning, but I still dislike it immensely.

But enough about that. Cappies, damn it.

[BrianDavion]

It is kind of weird. As it seems like it’s gonna set up the Bears to be on the opposite side with their two Leviathans.

I’m still nonplussed that the Horses got the variants started and the best one, 8Ar, spread to other factions they don’t touch.

It looks, reading the fluff like the varients where mixed tech refits that became popular with the Jihad coalition and spread via it. with the dracs and Lyrans likely not having much of a source of Jigganu chassises and the ROTS prefering the CCr varient.

definatly a touch odd, but it's not the first time we've seen "salvage refits" of Capellan mechs. The Shattered Raven comes to mind. really The Cappies, especially in the Dark Age period should get some of their own answers to that. things like refit stealth enforcers or something

[five_corparty]

It looks, reading the fluff like the varients where mixed tech refits that became popular with the Jihad coalition and spread via it. with the dracs and Lyrans likely not having much of a source of Jigganu chassises and the ROTS prefering the CCr varient.

definatly a touch odd, but it's not the first time we've seen "salvage refits" of Capellan mechs. The Shattered Raven comes to mind. really The Cappies, especially in the Dark Age period should get some of their own answers to that. things like refit stealth enforcers or something

Exactly- nations with both Jinggaus and Clan tech available received them.  the refits are wicked easy: weapons, armor, heatsinks; I wanted the refits doable by a player character in AToW or destiny. :-)

[Church14]

Musing inspired from another thread.

Just how much are Capellans likely to have near Terra right about June 3151? I understand we wouldn’t have a hard number, but I’m curious if there’s a good guess

[Minemech]

Musing inspired from another thread.

Just how much are Capellans likely to have near Terra right about June 3151? I understand we wouldn’t have a hard number, but I’m curious if there’s a good guess

In times yonder, Maximilian introduced a reform that granted the Confederation phenomenal strategic mobility. Assuming that said reform has only been continuously built on (And we do have reason to believe so), it is less a matter of immediate proximity, and more a matter of the ships being ready.

[BrianDavion]

well we know from Empire Alone the CCAF has basicly stripped their "southren border" of mech regiments, and presumably also, after the cease fire moved a number of regiments from their fedsuns border to the "Terran front"

However many of these worlds are recently conquered and thus almost certainly need a garrison to keep order and keep the planets in line (despite having once been capellan, the stone resettlement plans means many of the worlds are going to be a melting pot mix) This means that what can be concentrated for an offensive or defensive operation is going to be considerably less. (I'd guess 10-25 regiments depending, and 25 regiments seems a little "if you lose this battle you're ******")

If I was a writer looking to reduce the CCAF's size (which let's face it, proably needs to happen) I'd have Alaric launch strikes against individual CCAF regiments crushing them as he defeats the CCAF in detail. never occupying territory or staying long in one position. A "chaos march" around Terra fits the wolves needs just fine. As I've said before Alaric basicly needs 20 years of freedom to act.

[Grizzly]

From Shattered Fortress, I recall about 10 regiments being called by name as being in the area of operations adjacent to the Republic/Star League (Operations Tiamat, Clarity, and others). Then there is the implication that more are staging on Liao where the Chancellor has posted himself. Most of the warrior house locations are ambiguous but it would not be unsafe to assume the Chancellor will throw all right at Terra.

I'd guess 20 regiments might be available. Eight warrior house, and about a dozen CCAF. Plus there are now mercenaries fighting for the Confederation again so maybe even more.

[Grizzly]

Musing inspired from another thread.

Just how much are Capellans likely to have near Terra right about June 3151? I understand we wouldn’t have a hard number, but I’m curious if there’s a good guess

For those interested here are the Capellan regiments we know are operating against the Republic in '49-'51:

Holdfast Guard (SF)
2nd MAC (SF)
1st MAC (SF)
House Ijori (SF)
5th MAC (SF)
House Imarra (SF)
Home Guard forces (SF)
House Dai Da Chi (SF)
1st Liao Guards (SF)
4th MAC (SF)
2nd Liao Guards (SF)
Laurel's Legion (SF)
5th Sian Dragoons (SF)
Red Lancers (reserve, SF)
Death Commandos (reserve, SF)
4th Liao Guards (SF)
2nd Canopian Lancers (SF)
1st Canopian Lancers (SF)
11th Sian Dragoons (EA)
Whirlwind Strikers (PoV)
Waxie's Dargle (PoV)

[tassa_kay]

What's PoV?

[BrianDavion]

What's PoV?

Perception of Victory, the new novella came out that focuses on the NWH