The Art of War: Home of the Capellan Confederation!

[Morally]

Waxie's Dargle is a very Irish reference for a capellan unit.

[BrianDavion]

Waxie's Dargle is a very Irish reference for a capellan unit.

it's almost like the inner sphere is a multicultural place

[Metallgewitter]

it's almost like the inner sphere is a multicultural place

While that is true the Combine and the Confederation often go for a more "uniform culture" Like for example Sun Tzu's Shin Xeng policies: renamed the military titles to Chinese ones, promoting Chinese culture, even preferring Mechs that took a more "Chinese look" as well as given them Chinese names. Of course even those nations can't totally suppress other big culture groups within their ranks

[Church14]

For those interested here are the Capellan regiments we know are operating against the Republic in '49-'51:

Holdfast Guard (SF)
2nd MAC (SF)
1st MAC (SF)
House Ijori (SF)
5th MAC (SF)
House Imarra (SF)
Home Guard forces (SF)
House Dai Da Chi (SF)
1st Liao Guards (SF)
4th MAC (SF)
2nd Liao Guards (SF)
Laurel's Legion (SF)
5th Sian Dragoons (SF)
Red Lancers (reserve, SF)
Death Commandos (reserve, SF)
4th Liao Guards (SF)
2nd Canopian Lancers (SF)
1st Canopian Lancers (SF)
11th Sian Dragoons (EA)
Whirlwind Strikers (PoV)
Waxie's Dargle (PoV)

Oh sweet. That was thorough.


Is the EA unit the one listed that was no longer defending when Anduriens hit?

[Grizzly]

Oh sweet. That was thorough.


Is the EA unit the one listed that was no longer defending when Anduriens hit?

Correct, sir

[Gorgon]

While that is true the Combine and the Confederation often go for a more "uniform culture" Like for example Sun Tzu's Shin Xeng policies: renamed the military titles to Chinese ones, promoting Chinese culture, even preferring Mechs that took a more "Chinese look" as well as given them Chinese names. Of course even those nations can't totally suppress other big culture groups within their ranks

It's why Xin Sheng was such a big deal. Part of why it worked, by the time STL came up with it, some of the better defined "non-Chinese" parts of the Confederation were under trusted Fed-Com stewardship for the Celestial Throne (Tikonov, Northwind).

[BrianDavion]

While that is true the Combine and the Confederation often go for a more "uniform culture" Like for example Sun Tzu's Shin Xeng policies: renamed the military titles to Chinese ones, promoting Chinese culture, even preferring Mechs that took a more "Chinese look" as well as given them Chinese names. Of course even those nations can't totally suppress other big culture groups within their ranks

.... No.

What we see in the Capcon is the Court Culture. that doesn't mean the entire CapCon is Chinese

[tassa_kay]

There's a bit of truth to all sides here, but Brian's more or less spot-on: the Han Chinese trappings are mostly associated with House Liao as opposed to the CapCon at large. Yes, Xin Sheng did bring about a lot of sinification in the CapCon, to the point where there was a noted uptick of racism against non-Asians, but it was less about Chinese culture than it was about shoring up Capellan nationalism.

Besides, isn't Waxie's Dargle a merc unit anyway? It's not unusual in the slightest to see a non-Chinese merc unit in the employ of the CapCon. 

[Grizzly]

There's a bit of truth to all sides here, but Brian's more or less spot-on: the Han Chinese trappings are mostly associated with House Liao as opposed to the CapCon at large. Yes, Xin Sheng did bring about a lot of sinification in the CapCon, to the point where there was a noted uptick of racism against non-Asians, but it was less about Chinese culture than it was about shoring up Capellan nationalism.

Besides, isn't Waxie's Dargle a merc unit anyway? It's not unusual in the slightest to see a non-Chinese merc unit in the employ of the CapCon.

All true but interestingly the short story gives the CO's rank as Zhong Shao. And says the other unit, the Whirlwind Strikers, were raised in St Ives (planet or commonality, not specified).

But this author also is noted for getting facts and ranks wrong so who knows.

[MadCapellan]

We in English use "Lieutenant Colonel" because of the military dominance of France in European culture 300 years ago.  If the mercenary unit uses Zhong-Shao, it likely just means they are Capellan natives accustomed to the word commonly used in the Capellan Confederation for individuals of that rank. I don't see any reason to read any more or less into it than that.

[Empyrus]

On the ranks, should be noted the Lyrans use German ranks even though the nation is actually mostly founded by colonists descended from Italy, Pakistan, Ireland and others but not really from Germany. The German influence in the LC is mostly a result of the Steiner family.
The CapCon is similar in this respect, though a bit differently. I think the original CC housebook notes that the CapCon's leadership caste/nobility is more Asian-descended than the State is on average but not 100% sure on this.
And for most of CapCon's existence, English was used for ranks. The Chinese ranks were introduced with the Xin Sheng reforms in late 3050s, so they've been in use less than 100 years.

Really don't think CapCon is more culturally uniform than any other state. Though having a police state makes enforcing certain appearance easier.

[BrianDavion]

We in English use "Lieutenant Colonel" because of the military dominance of France in European culture 300 years ago.  If the mercenary unit uses Zhong-Shao, it likely just means they are Capellan natives accustomed to the word commonly used in the Capellan Confederation for individuals of that rank. I don't see any reason to read any more or less into it than that.

To use another example from history..



This is the Pour le Merit. A very famous medal. Also known as the Blue Max. It was the highest military honour that could be awarded by the Kingdom of Prussia (which was a one of the States of Germany after reunification) and thus was basicly the highest honor awarded by the german empire during WW1.
The name is French because in 1740 when King Fredrick of Prussia founded the medal. France was one of the major international languages at the time, and Fredrick II favored it's use in his court.

No one, however, is going to accuse the PRUSSIANS of being French.

Court languages don't nesscarily reflect the popular vernacular, let alone the culture
 

[HeavyArmorMecha]

Does Marcus Barton always drive a DVS? Or he just did for a short occasion? Cause I always thoight him as an AWS guy...

And the DVS he drove, is it the stock config? Or he did something special with it?

[Grizzly]

Does Marcus Barton always drive a DVS? Or he just did for a short occasion? Cause I always thoight him as an AWS guy...

And the DVS he drove, is it the stock config? Or he did something special with it?

He drove an Awesome until 3044. Then he acquired a DVS-2 Devastator from CMM General Lester Otto on Marlette.

[five_corparty]

Does Marcus Barton always drive a DVS? Or he just did for a short occasion? Cause I always thoight him as an AWS guy...

And the DVS he drove, is it the stock config? Or he did something special with it?

He drove his mother's Warhammer into the 4th SW before that.

[Grizzly]

So what do we think of the new CCAF war machines in RS3150?

I look forward to using the new Yu Huang, Huron Warrior and Helios the most but all of them are decent to good upgrades imo.

[MadCapellan]

Additional Boosted C³ platforms were definitely needed & are a welcome addition.

[MarauderD]

Need a boosted C3 master with two headcappers for your Vandals?  Check.

[Grizzly]

Additional Boosted C³ platforms were definitely needed & are a welcome addition.

100%! I'm still hoping for a Men Shen H config with a supercharger and boosted C3.

[truetanker]

Is it bad to want to Armor my C3 network components against possible crit damage?

TT