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Bedwyr

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Alt paint acquisition
« on: 01 June 2021, 14:36:55 »
So I'm a pretty dedicated Vallejo game color user, but I'd like to branch out with some alternates, not wanting to limit myself to what the local store offers (as usual, army painter and GW). What would be some good complementary paints to the vallejo set? I've been looking at P3 (the pigment formulation has been pretty nice and I like their colors) and Scale 75 (by reputation mostly and the possibility of a really flat finish). I gather the latter is pretty hard to get in the US since it's Eurocentric. Open to other possibilities like really good artist paints. Not ready yet for oils, though.
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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #1 on: 01 June 2021, 15:24:42 »
What are your views on craft paints? Some things you just have to go with the expensive stuff(white, metallics, etc); but for more well-behaved shades I find that things like Apple Barrel do very well.
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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #2 on: 01 June 2021, 15:35:53 »
Lately, I just have tubes of cyan, magenta, yellow, black, and white for painting mechs. They're the "pretty good" 2 oz tubes, Golden Heavy Body Acrylic. For "humans", I use those plus cadmium red and ochre yellow to get skin tones, which also gives great browns and "sand" colors, like Pale Sand. Then I have a few pots of Citadel metallics, like runefang steel, leadbelcher, and a brass one. I have some matte medium to mix up shades and filters as I go. I enjoy painting much more.
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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #3 on: 01 June 2021, 15:56:22 »
What are your views on craft paints? Some things you just have to go with the expensive stuff(white, metallics, etc); but for more well-behaved shades I find that things like Apple Barrel do very well.

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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #4 on: 01 June 2021, 21:05:54 »
For what it's worth, I've generally had good experiences with Army Painter, Reaper, and P3. After having a year+ of next to no painting, I did notice several of my P3's had separated/solidified on me. Not happy with that. Others were fine though, leaving me unsure of the specific cause.

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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #5 on: 01 June 2021, 21:17:07 »
For what it's worth, I've generally had good experiences with Army Painter, Reaper, and P3. After having a year+ of next to no painting, I did notice several of my P3's had separated/solidified on me. Not happy with that. Others were fine though, leaving me unsure of the specific cause.

It seems to be that some bottles not getting the occasional shake will separate and chemically bond. I just had that happen to one of my Vallejo reds (Game Air). Just a lovely rubbery red contained in a slimy white membrane. It was both cool and disgusting at the same time.

One thing I do look for is a good flat black. The Vallejo black is really really shiny and doesn't mesh well with other paints. It's one of the few failures of the line.
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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #6 on: 02 June 2021, 03:55:24 »
If you want a flat (matt) finish I can recommend Mr.Paint (or MRP). Be aware these are also Eurocentric but I know there are some US webshops that carry them. You should be also aware that MRP produces several ranges. I recommend their MRP-F range as these are targeted at miniature painters. The only thing that I am not sure how well they mix with Vallejo paints. I have painted them over Vallejo paints and vice versa in several instances and there wasn't any problem with them chipping or not sticking.

Others made good tips on other brands of paints that I find also good choice to compliment Vallejo paints.
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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #7 on: 02 June 2021, 11:54:27 »
Yeah that's a good point re mixing. I think I'm mostly dedicated to reducing mixtures unless I really really need to, hence my big bottle collection. And I think I'm starting to come down on the side of P3 as a target alt unless I really want flat + high pigment content. In that case, I might look toward Scale Colors (which are pretty danged expensive in the US).
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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #8 on: 09 June 2021, 19:04:19 »
I use a mix of Reaper, Vallejo and Scale75 when painting. They all make good products with somewhat different properties. Without knowing what you are specifically looking for, it's tough to say which, if any, might be right for you.

Scale Color is better than most for metallic paints. I *love* their white for highlighting, but your mileage may vary. (I specifically like it because it is more transparent than most hobby whites)

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Re: Alt paint acquisition
« Reply #9 on: 10 June 2021, 16:59:41 »
Thanks for the reply! Since I asked the question, I think I've come down on a couple things: bespoke products that do something really well (like reaper primer or things like that) or P3 paints transferred to droppers. I'd like to get into Scale 75, but it's just not that common and I'd rather grab a bottle if it happens to come up.


Anyhow, I think I'm content with the answers. Thanks for the advice, y'all. I'm going to lock the thread as OP.
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