Kampfgruppe Steiner II: Operation Eisenfaust

[ABADDON]

Well obviously nobody else saw the need to prop up ComStar but her... I guess there's a reason...

"Ick"? So you're also a closet Berliner (which I am btw :P)? ;)

[Gray Jaguar]

Well obviously nobody else saw the need to prop up ComStar but her... I guess there's a reason...

"Ick"? So you're also a closet Berliner (which I am btw :P)? ;)

I have been having a conversation with a closet in Berlin?  This... this is news ;)

[ABADDON]

No, "closet" as in "secret" Berliner (=inhabitant/native of/to Berlin). "Ick" is dialect for "Ich" (= "I") common among mostly the lower social class living in Berlin.

Then you would need to add a "bin" (="am") right before the "ein" (="a"), even though you should rather take "der" (= male "the"), since there's only one Archon rather than many. ;)

But close enough, I guess...  :P

[Rainbow 6]

Not happy with the way Trillian left the ELH to die on Hesperus.

Thought the Commonwealth was supposed to treat its merc's with respect.

[Sharpnel]

Liek she had a 'real' choice in the matter.

[Death by Zeus]

I have been having a conversation with a closet in Berlin?  This... this is news ;)

As Abaddon is saying, (in a less than round about way) "ich bin ein Lyraner", and the always favorite "Steiner uber alles!"  >:D ahem, I mean  O:-)

[Tai Dai Cultist]

Not happy with the way Trillian left the ELH to die on Hesperus.

Thought the Commonwealth was supposed to treat its merc's with respect.

That virtually falls into the "fool me twice..." category for the ELH.  That was the SECOND time House Steiner screwed the ELH over on the very same planet.

[ABADDON]

Talk about history repeating itself.

[Rainbow 6]

Yeah, but they won't be coming back like they managed the last time  :'(

[Kit deSummersville]

I think, given the legal history there, it was pretty apparent.

[Caesar Steiner for Archon]

I would imagine that if not for ClickTech using them, there wouldn't have been any survivors from the Jihad at all

[Ian Sharpe]

I think, given the legal history there, it was pretty apparent.

They were Harmony Gold too? :o

[Caesar Steiner for Archon]

I PUT DA HOUSE ON MAH BACK DAWG

[ABADDON]

I just noticed that Halfway vanished in the gap between Field Manual 3085 and Era Report 3145. Oo
Do we know what happened?

[foxbat]

I think, given the legal history there, it was pretty apparent.

 [copper]
let's please leave this issue out of the topic, please.
 [copper]

[Caesar Steiner for Archon]

That virtually falls into the "fool me twice..." category for the ELH.  That was the SECOND time House Steiner screwed the ELH over on the very same planet.

Well someone had to make that stunt look convincing. You hire mercenaries to die in the place of House troops. Once upon a time people just accepted that, but in an era where every author had a pet unit that he made out to be invincible, people forgot.

[StCptMara]

Well someone had to make that stunt look convincing. You hire mercenaries to die in the place of House troops. Once upon a time people just accepted that, but in an era where every author had a pet unit that he made out to be invincible, people forgot.

I like the return to that in the ER3145. However, I also like that this time? Kurita seems to have learned its lesson. I mean, considering
that The Wolf's Dragoons managed to get enough salvage to equip a full battalion with Davion equipment and create the Wolfsbane Battalion? Looks like Kurita is actually treating them fairly this time around. Though, there is a certain grim irony in the
track 'Return to Misery': Fighting alongside the Ryoken on the very planet they once used as the Ryoken's 'Final Exam', against the Davions.

[Top Sergeant]

Here you go.

Kit, you're going to have to explain how Undine BA is Finnish, because I still can't figure out what the heck you mean.

[Kit deSummersville]

Kit, you're going to have to explain how Undine BA is Finnish, because I still can't figure out what the heck you mean.

It's got fins! Duh!  :D

[Top Sergeant]

It's got fins! Duh!  :D

*facepalm*

Just for that, I am going to sic the Davoin fanboys on you by convincing them you are going to make Alaric the First Prince.  }:)

[Rainbow 6]

Poor Kit, he deserves it though.  O0

[Diamondshark]

Hey, I'm doing a campaign as a planetary militia in the Commonwealth in 3085 (Kaumberg, if it makes a difference), and as I'm new to the whole militia thing, what kinds of units would I expect to see there? I know from Objectives: Lyran Alliance what kind of force composition to expect, in terms of how many vehicles, infantry, maybe a few IndustrialMechs, etc., but idk what types of tanks and platoons to field. Any suggestions?

[Tai Dai Cultist]

Hey, I'm doing a campaign as a planetary militia in the Commonwealth in 3085 (Kaumberg, if it makes a difference), and as I'm new to the whole militia thing, what kinds of units would I expect to see there? I know from Objectives: Lyran Alliance what kind of force composition to expect, in terms of how many vehicles, infantry, maybe a few IndustrialMechs, etc., but idk what types of tanks and platoons to field. Any suggestions?

Hunters, Sturmfeurs, and Warriors are all good choices.   Cheap, effective, and very Lyran flavored.  You could also throw in a few squadrons of conventional fighters, as well.

I'm a big fan of artillery platoons, and they'd be great to use in addition to cheap rifle foot platoons.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

When in doubt, the Rommel (Gauss) is always a good choice.

[Top Sergeant]

Rommel AC/20 ain't too shabby neither! Nor the Hetzer.  O0


IIRC the hovercraft family Saladin / Scimitar / Saracen are common throughout the Inner Sphere, so these are also on the table for you. Common replacement/repair parts between them would help with a limited Militia budget.

[Weirdo]

Hetzers gonna Hetz, baby! 8)

If you're wanting to go really low-tier, I'd go for Bulldogs and Vedettes as the core of your armored force. Dirt cheap, respectable firepower, and just enough armor that they don't fold in half on the first hit. You need good tactics to keep them alive, but if you treat them right they'll never let you down.

To back these guys up and make sure they actually survive against modern opponents, you need force multipliers(read: dirty tricks). Conventional fighters are a wonderful way to give yourself some air support without springing for expensive ASFs, and they can pack a surprising punch. Nobody likes an AC/20 to the back, and nothing stops an incoming tank column like a high-altitude bombing run that literally covers half a mapsheet in mines. Remote Sensors are really old tech, but they can help you keep tabs on an enemy's advance strategically, as well as assist in indirect fire tactically. Plenty of civilian-grade vehicles mount extra comm gear, and the command bonus that can impart will be a huge boost to your faster units. Take a page from wars past, and give some of your infantry field guns. Infantry ambushes are bad enough, but when those infantry have a large autocannon hidden in that stand of trees or in that alley, things go from bad to infinitely worse.

[Top Sergeant]

Manticore is a classic all-around tank too.

[Tai Dai Cultist]

Manticore is a classic all-around tank too.

Perhaps pricey for militia, but if plot demands they can afford mechs, no reason they can't have nice tanks, too :)

I'll echo the suggestion on Vedettes.  They're so appropriate you're almost Doing It Wrong if you don't include them.

[Col.Hengist]

Lets not forget the little munchy Lyran charmer... the hoverskates for an atlas... the savannah master!

[Diamondshark]

Thanks for the advice! I was thinking a lot of Vedettes, Hunters, Hetzers, and maybe some SRM/LRM carriers. I also threw two platoons of AC/10 field gunners into the infantry, and have two lances of mechs (mostly Crosscuts and Lumberjacks, and some Arbiters).

One more question: How homogenous and organized should a militia be? If I have four Hunters, should I put them in a lance together, or should it just be whatever I have?