Author Topic: Lyran Assault Lance (Read 8341 times)

noobk · « **on:** 01 March 2011, 13:03:06 »

So I have 3 mechs picked out, 2 of which painted.

Fafnir
Zues
Victor
????

I'm trying to figure out a good 4th mech to fit into the lance. I'm thinking along the lines of a Catapult to add some LRM fire and round out the lance. Before I committed though I figured I would see what other people would do for some ideas.

JPArbiter · « **Reply #1 on:** 01 March 2011, 13:08:41 »

Hauptmann or Battlemaster

or if you don't mind something lighter a good Archer or Defiance.

noobk · « **Reply #2 on:** 01 March 2011, 13:15:38 »

Did not think about a Defiance, would add the long range pep I have in mind, the Archer I had already thought about doing as well, Archers and Catapults pretty much feel like the same mech to me, the Archer just has a lack of JJs.

JPArbiter · « **Reply #3 on:** 01 March 2011, 13:28:32 »

modern archers like the 9M pack a little more direct punch thanks to the inclusion of an ER large laser

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #4 on:** 01 March 2011, 13:31:42 »

The Salamander would be the best thing to get some Lyran indirect fire. But a Banshee is always a good choice, too.

thefiddler · « **Reply #5 on:** 01 March 2011, 13:36:02 »

Nightstar, Thunderhawk, or Devastator for some gauss fun. Also it's the Archer 8M that has the ER Large, the 9M is 3/5, but with IJJ so 3/5/5 and has 2 Light PPC's.

Sellsword · « **Reply #6 on:** 01 March 2011, 14:24:33 »

Go for the Salamander and for fun use the 5/8 variant just to give the enemy a scare as you try to flank him with it. ;)

Seriously though, go with the Salamander.

My next choice would be the Emperor. Either the standard version for some LBX Crit seeking or the one with double LBX 20s to partner with the Fafnir.

noobk · « **Reply #7 on:** 01 March 2011, 14:33:13 »

Haha, so when I saw the Salamander comment I was like.

"What the heck is he talking about? Why would Clan BA be in a Lyran Assault Lance?! #P"

So then common sense kicks in very quick that I had no knowledge of a Salamander Mech. So I finally got around to finding it on Sarna and yeah, thats a scary SOB, and does look like it would be fun. At first glance though it does not come off as being very Commonwealthy, looks more Liao or Combine. But alas, it's made by Defiance so it must represent the fist!

five_corparty · « **Reply #8 on:** 01 March 2011, 14:35:31 »

Barghest is also an under-appreciated Lyran Mech, IMHO.

(I really like the one in the XTRO, with the turret. that's just kinda cool... :)

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #9 on:** 01 March 2011, 15:03:58 »

I'm a big fan of the Barghest, but sadly the early versions had poorly though-out weapon/heat sink allocation.

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #10 on:** 01 March 2011, 15:18:32 »

Quote from: noobk on 01 March 2011, 13:03:06

So I have 3 mechs picked out, 2 of which painted.

Fafnir
Zues
Victor
??? ?

I'm trying to figure out a good 4th mech to fit into the lance. I'm thinking along the lines of a Catapult to add some LRM fire and round out the lance. Before I committed though I figured I would see what other people would do for some ideas.

Atlas is always a good Lyran standby. It's not a true fireesupport design, but most of them have at least a few LRMs. I'll second(third? fourth? whatever) Salamander, and the Hauptmann's an excellent choice too.

iamfanboy · « **Reply #11 on:** 01 March 2011, 15:52:16 »

Quote from: noobk on 01 March 2011, 13:03:06

So I have 3 mechs picked out, 2 of which painted.

Fafnir
Zues
Victor
????

I'm trying to figure out a good 4th mech to fit into the lance. I'm thinking along the lines of a Catapult to add some LRM fire and round out the lance. Before I committed though I figured I would see what other people would do for some ideas.

With two 80-tonners, don't you mean a Lyran Light lance?

But seriously, a Salamander is a solid choice for an LRM 'Mech. It's never failed me before, and it's not entirely hideous... it's just not much for anything else.

noobk · « **Reply #12 on:** 01 March 2011, 16:07:25 »

Quote from: iamfanboy on 01 March 2011, 15:52:16

With two 80-tonners, don't you mean a Lyran Light lance?

Touche!

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #13 on:** 02 March 2011, 01:21:57 »

Quote from: Arkansas Warrior on 01 March 2011, 15:18:32

Atlas is always a good Lyran standby. It's not a true fireesupport design, but most of them have at least a few LRMs. I'll second(third? fourth? whatever) Salamander, and the Hauptmann's an excellent choice too.

The AS-7S2 actually pulls the firesupport role quite well. Two ER Large Lasers, an LRM 15 with Artemis IV, and a Heavy Gauss, plus the heatsinks to use all of them. And unlike a traditional LRM boat, it's not at a huge penalty if an enemy tries to get closer to it.

Lyran Archer · « **Reply #14 on:** 02 March 2011, 20:37:00 »

Go with an ARC-5W Archer. It's cheap (1337 BV), made on three different planets in the Lyran Commonwealth (Alarion, Carlisle, and Wyatt), has 208 armor, has 2 LRM 20s, 2 SRM 4s, and can fire all weapons while running and not generate a single point of heat. I love it.

Arkansas Warrior · « **Reply #15 on:** 02 March 2011, 22:35:28 »

It's also got nothing but missiles. In a long-running fight or a campaign situation you're liable to run out of ammo fast. Plus while the ammo lasts there's 8 tons of boom in an ISXLed mech.

Medron Pryde · « **Reply #16 on:** 02 March 2011, 23:25:57 »

If you want a real Lyran assault lance, only one 'Mech will do.

The original Behemoth.

8)

HavocTheWarDog · « **Reply #17 on:** 02 March 2011, 23:30:58 »

Theres also the AS7-S Atlas variant to add to the mix.

Akalabeth · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 March 2011, 04:04:24 »

Banshee 5S

S for Steiner!

Davion_Boy_74 · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 March 2011, 04:31:58 »

Depending on era / time line, the Banshee 3S is very good pre 3050, heck it's a good assault mech post 3050 if used right, and it's a Stenier made variant to boot [rockon].

Dave.

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 March 2011, 13:17:32 »

Quote from: HavocTheWarDog on 02 March 2011, 23:30:58

Theres also the AS7-S Atlas variant to add to the mix.

The AS-7S is a rather unimpressive upgrade. On the one hand, it avoided the problems with the XL engine and ER Large Lasers that the AS-7K has, but on the other it doesn't actually fix any of the problems that the AS-7D has. There's really nothing that it does that you can't do with a Hauptmann, and the Hauptmann's got CASE, more ammo for its primary weapons, and better long range fighting capability in all its configurations.

Mindwiper · « **Reply #21 on:** 04 March 2011, 02:14:16 »

put in a Berserker, or Marauder II (MAD-4S). [notworthy]

My post 3050 Lyran Guard Company has lances with:

Fafnir/FNR-5
Atlas   /AS7-S2
Zeus-X/ZEU-X3
Hauptmann/Omni

Marauder II/MAD-4S
Gunslinger/GUN-1ERD
Berserker/BRZ-C3
Thunder Hawk/TDK-7X

Hauptmann/Omni
Salamander/PPR-6S
Stalker/STK-8S
Barghest/BGS-3T

and 3025

Atlas/AS7-D
Atlas/AS7-D
Banshee/BNC-3S
Banshee/BNC-3E

Battlemaster/BLR-1G
Zeus/ZEU-6S
Zeus/ZEU-6S
Zeus   /ZEU-6T

Archer/ARC-2S
Crusader/CRD-3R
Marauder/MAD-3R
Goliath/GOL-1H

Later this year I will make complete Assault Companies out of it and put all non assaults in a Support Company ;). Unseen 3025er will be replaced by Project Phoenix Mechs to be able to play the Companies even in the Jihad.

HavocTheWarDog · « **Reply #22 on:** 06 March 2011, 04:31:22 »

Quote from: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 03 March 2011, 13:17:32

The AS-7S is a rather unimpressive upgrade. On the one hand, it avoided the problems with the XL engine and ER Large Lasers that the AS-7K has, but on the other it doesn't actually fix any of the problems that the AS-7D has. There's really nothing that it does that you can't do with a Hauptmann, and the Hauptmann's got CASE, more ammo for its primary weapons, and better long range fighting capability in all its configurations.

I only said as7-s because he wanted steiner mech variants for a steiner assault lance.

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #23 on:** 06 March 2011, 04:45:24 »

With all the good Steiner assault mechs available, there's no need to recommend a bad one. ;)

HavocTheWarDog · « **Reply #24 on:** 06 March 2011, 15:52:49 »

Quote from: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 06 March 2011, 04:45:24

With all the good Steiner assault mechs available, there's no need to recommend a bad one. ;)

Why not? is every mech, in every lance, a good one? maybe in a perfect world.

Demos · « **Reply #25 on:** 07 March 2011, 11:12:04 »

Every Steiner Mech above 70 tons (for a "light" assault lance).
As you have already two 80ton Mechs, maybe a 95t or 100t for a "real" Assault Lance. ;)

Col.Hengist · « **Reply #26 on:** 07 March 2011, 11:40:59 »

Salamander for lrm's and nightstar for gaussey goodness and the lb10x version is a sexy beast also